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Title: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: darrellmaurina on January 12, 2009, 11:07:52 AM
EMTs and paramedics at the Pulaski County Ambulance District (PCAD) have recently experienced battling a flurry of heroin overdoses and near-deaths, and at least one known heroin death. This is such a sad and tragic part of American culture. One hopes that new methods can be developed to combat this problem as current models have miserably failed. As ambulance director, I have hopes for support groups like the newly forming group starting in Pulaski County. Although I do not not have the answer to this horrific problem, I can relate to the readers what it is like to combat one of these deaths or near-deaths, and how heroin kills. Read More ... (http://www.pulaskicountyweb.com/news.php?viewStory=259)

By Gary Carmack, Ambulance Director
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: CriTTer on January 12, 2009, 01:54:26 PM
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Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: "DJ" on January 13, 2009, 01:04:05 PM
Heroin is a topic that most people don't want to talk about ,but it is a huge problem in our community.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: crazy horse on January 13, 2009, 06:52:15 PM
I agree Jedi25, I am doing some research for Darrell from ambulance and coroner's office to check facts on heroin calls here. It is an extremely dangerous problem as it is so easy to die from heroin.
 
Gary
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: "DJ" on January 14, 2009, 03:38:04 PM
CH Thanks for bring this to our attention. I would like to see what this research shows. I know of a couple young men that have died recently from from Pulaski County of heroin OD.  It has devastated their parents and families.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: 48fan on January 14, 2009, 03:51:17 PM
Heroin is a topic that most people don't want to talk about ,but it is a huge problem in our community.

How huge is huge? Just curious that we have this huge problem in the community and this is the first time that many have heard of it (in our community).
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: "DJ" on January 14, 2009, 04:03:01 PM
I'm hoping that Crazy Horse will be able to give us some statistics on the number of calls in Pulaski County for heroin overdose and death? The word on the street is that heroin is replacing the meth problem . Something called China White?
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: ex-ed on January 14, 2009, 04:19:31 PM

How huge is huge? Just curious that we have this huge problem in the community and this is the first time that many have heard of it (in our community).

Gary says in his article that PCAD has experienced "a flurry of heroin overdoses and near-deaths, and at least one known heroin death." That, to me, makes it a serious problem, one well worth tackling head-on. One death is too many!
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: crazy horse on January 25, 2009, 06:29:45 PM
I have some statistics on this and some information regarding a support group. I am turning over to Darrell for a story as he is working on as he will do a much better job than me. Just last few days we had a Cocaine/OxyContin OD.
   This reminds me of the years I worked ER at the old Pulaski County Memorial Hospital. We seen rapes nearly every Friday & Saturday nights, especially payday weekends. But, the folks rarely knew of these. Most upstanding citizens didn't (didn't want to) acknowledge the crimes. I was always amazed at the difference in the "night-life" in Pulaski County, as opposed to the "daytime citizens. Cops, firefighters, ER staff, and paramedics view an entire different world from most. Crime has always been here and always will be. Most just don't know it, or prefer to ignore it to protect economic interests.
   By-the-way, and I know will get me about a million more negative reps (I think I'm already the highest on here, hahaha) but I do not believe drug addiction should be a crime. This should be a social/medical matter. Not jail time. The exception being the Pusher, which of course we never get the big ones. They too rich and powerful.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: Law101 on January 25, 2009, 06:36:50 PM
You don't hear much about gang problem in this area but they are not only here but they are also in our schools.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: Margarita on January 25, 2009, 06:49:55 PM
I agree with you Crazy Horse  and you also Law101
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: crazy horse on January 25, 2009, 07:08:55 PM
Thank you Margarita, another problem I am going to soon do an article on is Huffing. I can't this week as I already have my column ready to submit to Darrell & Daily Guide, but please tell any kids you know, this can destroy the brain or kill them. Recently, we have responded to several of these. They are using computer cleaner and they become hypoxic. Perhaps talk to them about being disabled. Teens do not seem to fear death. Them do not see death as a reality. However, they are very concerned about their body. I will cover this in detail when I write about it in Paramedic's Corner.
 
Law, true organized gangs were actually much worse here in 60s and 70s. These are mild today compared to them. Yes, real, but do not know if worse or not. A lot of gang related murder here in 60s & 70s.
 
Gary
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: Margarita on January 25, 2009, 07:34:07 PM
I wish that you would also do an article on binge drinking.  That seems to be a big problem among these young adults also.  You are right about them not fearing death also.  My son has told me he "knows what he is doing" regarding his drinking habits.  I always fear he will over do it.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: Law101 on January 25, 2009, 07:38:06 PM
I don't think it is as bad as you say it was in the past, nor is it as bad as it was where I lived in CA.  I just know that without adequate awareness on both the public's and LE's part, it can grow to become a major problem.  One I would hate to see happen here.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: crazy horse on January 25, 2009, 07:47:52 PM
Law 101, I agree.
 
Margarita, you are very astute. You could be one of my students. Nothing supersedes alcohol in causing death. Our society has strong focus on Meth and things that cause not even near the problem of alcohol. Yes, I will cover that for you.
 
Gary
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: Margarita on January 25, 2009, 08:27:28 PM
Crazy Horse, thank you.  I will be looking forward to your article.  Other than alcohol related accidents, society doesn't seem to realize the problems  and deaths caused by socially acceptable alcohol.  Young adults are always looking for an "escape" from the stresses of life today. 
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: Lepard LLC on January 25, 2009, 08:39:38 PM
I agree that alchohol is way worse than pot, but meth is debateable in comparison to alchohol. Depends on the subject matter. Alchohol is more violent for sure.. Depressants make people mean or moody. Speeds usually just wierds them out..
The big difference a paramedic sees is drunks, where as meth is easier to hide it's effects, they have probably seen a lot more people on it then they realize..
 
 
Law 101, I agree.
 
Margarita, you are very astute. You could be one of my students. Nothing supersedes alcohol in causing death. Our society has strong focus on Meth and things that cause not even near the problem of alcohol. Yes, I will cover that for you.
 
Gary
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: crazy horse on January 25, 2009, 08:54:50 PM
Rick, I'm talking about death and serious illness. Meth does not (or rarely causes death) it is speed. People don't quit breathing, etc. Deaths would be like Cocaine. Cocaine rarely causes death, when it does it is usually cardiac. No, alcohol supersedes all forms of drugs in causing death and serious illness. Even more than the very dangerous heroin. As horrible as meth is you do not get the deaths. Pot, is not even close. Shouldn't even be counted (and no I don't use it).
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: crazy horse on January 25, 2009, 09:00:08 PM
Rick, something we have been worried about is this computer cleaning stuff. I guess these young people think it isn't a drug so isn't dangerous. But, the high they are getting is a hypoxic high. Extremely dangerous. We have got several calls lately. Very scary!
 
Gary
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: crazy horse on January 25, 2009, 09:03:22 PM
Rick, I also know how lives are changed and horrible cost to people and families on Meth. I do agree with you. It destroys, it just takes longer and doesn't cause sudden death. So, we agree.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: Lepard LLC on January 25, 2009, 09:16:48 PM
Huffing it? I remember kids huffing Pam spray when I was a teen.
 
I hyperventilated a few times as a kid, for those of you who don't know that that is you squat down them breath in really fast about 30 times then stand up and you pass out. I saw one kid fall on his head hard doing that once.

Rick, something we have been worried about is this computer cleaning stuff. I guess these young people think it isn't a drug so isn't dangerous. But, the high they are getting is a hypoxic high. Extremely dangerous. We have got several calls lately. Very scary!
 
Gary
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: Kristi Marie on January 25, 2009, 10:54:48 PM
Rick, something we have been worried about is this computer cleaning stuff. I guess these young people think it isn't a drug so isn't dangerous. But, the high they are getting is a hypoxic high. Extremely dangerous. We have got several calls lately. Very scary!
 
Gary
The kids huffing computer air cleaner has been going on for some time~ I overheard my kids bragging about it one time and don't think I didn't smack him and ask him did he want to die or what?! grrrr
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: crazy horse on January 25, 2009, 11:12:20 PM
I know Kristi, but we didn't get calls for it until recently. So, when we are getting calls because the kids got so bad they needed help, that concerns me. I know a police detective and some of my paramedics who are very concerned. They brought it to my attention asking me some questions. We are looking at preventing a death or loss of a brain.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: Jax on January 25, 2009, 11:51:27 PM
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Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: crazy horse on January 26, 2009, 12:37:38 AM
That is wonderful Jax, thank you! I also learned something else reading your site. I needed a place to send an employee for anger management therapy several months ago, and couldn't find anything local. Now I know...thank you,
 
Gary
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: Jax on January 26, 2009, 12:43:48 AM
My pleasure. I hope your employee got the help he needed from some one.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: Kristi Marie on January 26, 2009, 03:16:15 AM
Cant someone go to the schools and talk to kids about huffing? I don't know if they still to the dare thing or not~ Be worth checking out i'm thinking..
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: crazy horse on February 04, 2009, 01:48:32 AM
more recent heroin ods the last few days.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: Jax on February 04, 2009, 03:13:08 AM
Sad but true on the recent OD's. Too bad it will get worse before it gets better.

DARTS is attempting to get a school education program set up. We are working hard at getting all our ducks in a row before going out into the community.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: fish on February 04, 2009, 03:27:50 AM
I never thought heroin would be much of a problem here. you hear about meth most of the time. I would really like to see drug dealing made a capital crime. the pushers are killing people by proxy.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: Jax on February 05, 2009, 12:32:16 AM
One of the reasons that herion is such a problem in this county is because LE has been working hard, and doing a good job, clearing up the meth problem. Since cooking and selling meth is so legally dangerous here, heroin sales have increased.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: crazy horse on February 06, 2009, 05:05:37 PM
I thought that too Jax.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: Jax on February 06, 2009, 05:24:09 PM
Well, I hear that from the addicts in the area so I believe that it is true.

I also believe that LE and all emergency services are doing a great deal to work on the heroin issue. So, I tell the addicts and the dealers to make sure that they tell their friends to stop or get used to looking over their shoulder for "them" because "they" really ARE out to get them.

Before anyone asks why I am talking to addicts and dealers and not turning them in to LE, let me remind you that LE turns them in to me.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: crazy horse on March 11, 2009, 02:45:21 PM
Sadly, we are seeing more. I think there is a "bad" batch in here; well, it's all bad, heroin is so unpredictable. I fear we will see more death....
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: "DJ" on March 11, 2009, 06:33:07 PM
One of the reasons that herion is such a problem in this county is because LE has been working hard, and doing a good job, clearing up the meth problem. Since cooking and selling meth is so legally dangerous here, heroin sales have increased.
I wish we could get the heroin off the streets too.
Title: Re: Paramedicís Corner: Heroin Death
Post by: crazy horse on March 11, 2009, 08:39:30 PM
Me too DJ, it seems rarely a week goes by that we don't get an OD from H