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Re: classless nobama supporters
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2009, 02:35:18 AM »

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Ill do my part now....I respect the office of the presidency, but I dont have to like the man elected.  With the cartoon characters he has put in his cabinet, and all the expensive "change" he is promising...I can only hope he delivers.  The first mistake was Pelosi.  Second was Holder.... I dont see anything about them being for the people...just the power and control of the people.  I sure hope they prove me wrong.
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Re: classless nobama supporters
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2009, 03:59:03 AM »

I hate this statement more than any other republican nonsense.
 
First off, the outcome of a war doesn't dishonor the troops in any way. Would you say that all Vietnam Vets are dishonored because they didn't win the war? If the country decides that a war is no longer worth fighting, the outcome of the war doesn't dishonor the troops. Everyone knows we could stay there forever if we really wanted to. We just don't think it is worth it.
 
Second, I think it is a dishonor to call it the Iraq War still. It implies we haven't won the war. I don't know if you know this or not, but Iraq established its own government through democratic processes in 2005. We overthrew Saddams regime, and helped establish a new government in Iraq. How is that not winning the war? We defeated Iraq, there shouldn't be any denying this.
 
Finally, I don't know if you noticed, but we HAVE to leave soon regardless. Iraq doesn't want us there. They voted for us to leave no later than December 31, 2011. That is the problem with setting up a democracy in a part of the world where the people hate us. If we give the people the power, we are establishing a government that hates us. We were better off with a dictator. We were better off with Saddam. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and both of our enemies was Iran. Now we have set up an Iran friendly government....genius.
  THANK YOU!   i could not of said it better myself.   the "war" as far as i am concerned was over long ago! we took over iraq in weeks and got rid of the evil person running it!  we did our job!   Our sons and daughters are dead because we are STILL THERE!  we should of left long ago and saved a few lives. 
  If it ever gets taken over again we can over run the country and take it back in less time and with less losses then staying around waiting for someone to take pot shots at you.  the war is over and we succeded in what we wanted, which was destroying the weapons of mass,..  um    nevermind.   we won its over end of story

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Re: classless nobama supporters
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2009, 01:20:36 PM »
I suppose the fact is that Mr. Obama wants "credit" for returning our troops no matter what.  The fact that Mr. Bush arranged things with the Iraqi Government is a moot point.  We don't hear much about the positive effects of what the soldiers have done to rebuild the infrastructure, at least not while Mr. Bush was in office.  I wonder how that will change now with Mr. Obama in office.  The DSM will surely make him look as good as possible until he bursts their bubble with actions of which they do not approve.