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Author Topic: How much do you REALLY know about the canidate you back ?  (Read 5854 times)

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Offline sway-

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Re: How much do you REALLY know about the canidate you back ?
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2008, 07:45:45 AM »

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why do you think a dem or liberal would be good for this country?
 
You want a president to sound out words and LIE to this country?
No i don't want a president that lies to his country which is what  stated.
And NCLB IS A JOKE !
the state of the economy is a joke
and you find un fair that ALL people should be able to afford and buy a house ?

And brag about how great you are doing with the economy being so great because some of us are hating life with the economy sucking...wish we were all so damn lucky.
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Re: How much do you REALLY know about the canidate you back ?
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2008, 01:28:59 PM »
lol - thanks all - back atcha   :laugh:
 
So, SSDD - under yer avatar - it says "yes, thats me ignorants"  But the pic would appear to be the BUTT of a CAMEL pack.  Now I don't wana read into this, but....   ;)
 
Anyhow, yea, the economy is in a hardcore down-turn, and it is going to get worse before it gets better - what peeves me is people actually blame the standing president for the dilema for which the seeds were sewn under a different administration - I get irritated that people are so lazy as to point a finger and accuse without trying to research and understand.
 
This is yet another reason why I think people should have to pass a test to demonstrate a certain level of comprehension BEFORE BEING ALLOWED TO VOTE.
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Re: How much do you REALLY know about the canidate you back ?
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2008, 02:13:24 PM »
I don't believe that the problems we are facing right now can just be blamed on any president, there are a lot more people making decisions for this country than the president, congress and the senate, so to me it is not an issue of democrat or republican, because I believe they can all take the blame equally.
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Re: How much do you REALLY know about the canidate you back ?
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2008, 03:04:47 PM »
Did anyone check out Nobamas Patriot Speech?  OMG - The man is clueless.

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Re: How much do you REALLY know about the canidate you back ?
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2008, 06:02:32 PM »
If you don't want a president that lies , than why would you want a dem or liberal as president.
 
the economy will always have ups and downs. the current down turn isn't as bad as the media reports or the dems wished. there is still economic growth.

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Re: How much do you REALLY know about the canidate you back ?
« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2008, 02:19:15 PM »
AMEN!

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« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2008, 03:11:13 PM »
Fish I just don't get it. I have watched your comments on this board for along time and you have always just lumped every liberal and democrat as a liar and every republican as some kind of savior. Do you really believe that you can just slide everyone into one of two catagories ? Do you think Americans are not smart enough to actually look at the individual and not just the party ? Sorry but no party and no candidate is perfect and I personally like to check it out for myself, then decide. I don't need anyone shoving party rhetoric down my throat to make up my mind.

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Re: How much do you REALLY know about the canidate you back ?
« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2008, 03:36:54 PM »
Email I just got:
 
545 PEOPLE
   
Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget.   The president does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations.   The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices  545 human beings out of the 300 million  are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress.   In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.   They have no legal authority.   They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing.   I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash.   The politician has the power to accept or reject it.   No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault.   They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall.   No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.   The president can only propose a budget.   He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes.   Who is the speaker of the House?   She is the leader of the majority party.   She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want.   If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility.   I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.   When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

If the Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ .

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.
There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power.   Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation,' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses  provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

 


 

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Re: How much do you REALLY know about the canidate you back ?
« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2008, 01:45:25 AM »
you need to read them again cenwoman. to clarify my stance; I am a conservative, and a registered republican. republicans were known as conservatives(some still are, many are not), democrats are liberals(there used to be conservatives that were democrats).
 
I do not lump all democrats/liberals into one pile as liars. But I don't believe bill and hillary are honest, algore certainly is not. obama? no way. Joe leiberman? the best thing he did was change parties but he is still liberal and I believe an honest man.
what about the leadership in congress? Harry Reid and nancy pelosi are far from honest along with pos kerry. murtha? durbin? there are many more that I would consider dishonest/liars
 
which republicans fit this mold. none that I believe have misled us. any as saviors? not hardly. there is only one Savior and He isn't back yet.
there are some republicans that are not honest, some are in jail(where some of the dems should be) W may have made mistakes but I believe them to be honest mistakes. I will fault no one for making an honest mistake.
look at the state of the country and what the dems ran on in 2006. Lower gas prices is one thing that was promised. they have since risen at least 50%. why? the dems won't allow more drilling at home. they lied.
If there has been a dishonest republican I don't deny they are . but I have not seen one pointed out. Are republicans automatically honest? no, but they don't seem to get caught up in scandals and not prosecuted like the dems.
 
I don't shove rhetoric. I like to rely on facts. that is how a decision should be made.
 
I would love the dems and republicans to be partisan,none of this moderate crap. then there is a clear distinction between parties. work can still be accomplished. Reagan had a democrat congress and got a lot done. bubba had a republican congress led by conservatives and they forced him to get things done. being partisan does not mean legislation cannot be passed. it requires a healthy debate that unfortunately is squashed because of political manuevering.
The republicans lost their way and that is why they lost. there are more that need to go. But the upcoming election could very well be a democrat president and dem majority congress. That will be a reflection of the carter presidency. read about that, along with checking facts.
 

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« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2008, 08:36:23 PM »
To honestly state that your 100% honest evaluation of Republican politicians has led you to hold the belief that not one has misled the US is to either be a liar who is desperately holding on to a public image that everyone knows is a lie or to be incapable of making rational judgments about issues.

Either way it is the unfortunate Republican and Conservative party line that nothing they do or have done is wrong and that Democrats are evil liars bent on destroying the American way of life. 

That they cannot see the forest for the trees is why the US is in such a mess.  That they want to continue this mess based on their lies shows just which party is sick and twisted.
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Re: How much do you REALLY know about the canidate you back ?
« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2008, 09:09:19 PM »
To honestly state that your 100% honest evaluation of Republican politicians has led you to hold the belief that not one has misled the US is to either be a liar who is desperately holding on to a public image that everyone knows is a lie or to be incapable of making rational judgments about issues.

Either way it is the unfortunate Republican and Conservative party line that nothing they do or have done is wrong and that Democrats are evil liars bent on destroying the American way of life. 

That they cannot see the forest for the trees is why the US is in such a mess.  That they want to continue this mess based on their lies shows just which party is sick and twisted.

What_the?     Whatever!

The most despicable acts of deceit ongoing in this country are the lies and hypocrisy perpetrated by the people
seen in this short video.

They are so blinded by their hatred for this President and the necessities of their party they have betrayed their
own consciences.
 
This should be seen by everyone in America ! 
Here's a video compilation you definitely won't see on main stream media. The next time you hear the expression 'Bush's war' remember this note that there's no 'opinion', just direct video which deserves wide
distribution.

 
http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv
 
 
 
 

 
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Re: How much do you REALLY know about the canidate you back ?
« Reply #41 on: July 06, 2008, 10:36:33 PM »
Do you really believe that NO Republican has ever lied to the American public?
I have it on good authority that the Hokey-Pokey really IS what it's all about.

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Re: How much do you REALLY know about the canidate you back ?
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2008, 01:41:37 AM »
nope, but the current congressional leadership's lies have drowned them out.

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Re: How much do you REALLY know about the canidate you back ?
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2008, 01:43:16 PM »
To honestly state that your 100% honest evaluation of Republican politicians has led you to hold the belief that not one has misled the US is to either be a liar who is desperately holding on to a public image that everyone knows is a lie or to be incapable of making rational judgments about issues.

Either way it is the unfortunate Republican and Conservative party line that nothing they do or have done is wrong and that Democrats are evil liars bent on destroying the American way of life. 

That they cannot see the forest for the trees is why the US is in such a mess.  That they want to continue this mess based on their lies shows just which party is sick and twisted.

Are you kidding?  The Dems dedicate vast resources to trying to discredit and smear the Republicans, and hypocracy is their watch-word.  I think you are 180 degress out on this - every time a republican (elected official) opens his/her mouth the dems turn around and go on the attack.  To state the repubs are responsible for the attack dog tactics is ludacrious...
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