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Title: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: fish on July 01, 2011, 01:32:57 AM
           honesty doesn't pay on msnbc?   Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/mark-halperin-suspended-msnbc-obama-dick-morning-joe-2011-6#ixzz1QoT27617 (http://www.businessinsider.com/mark-halperin-suspended-msnbc-obama-dick-morning-joe-2011-6#ixzz1QoT27617)
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: stevem174 on July 01, 2011, 03:16:50 AM
I don't have a problem with this. Too many people are showing disrespect to the Office of the President.   
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: tpgunbiz on July 01, 2011, 07:56:50 AM
So if we dont like our president we are just supposed to sit by and shut up-..????? thought this was a free country.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: Coyote on July 01, 2011, 12:33:27 PM
Show a little respect.  That's all.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: matrsnot on July 01, 2011, 12:52:01 PM
I respect the office, not the man.  He should be impeached and removed from office.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: Coyote on July 01, 2011, 02:13:31 PM
For what?

I respect the office, not the man.  He should be impeached and removed from office.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: stevem174 on July 01, 2011, 03:00:05 PM
So if we dont like our president we are just supposed to sit by and shut up-.. ??? ?? thought this was a free country.

Are you saying that you can't disagree with someone without disrespecting them?   
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: matrsnot on July 01, 2011, 03:02:52 PM
Violation of the War Powers Act to begin with.  Not only Libya, but Somalia.  Instead of stopping the wars he inherited, he has entered into at least two more.  Later, we may find he was involved in the conspiracy for Fast and Furious too along with his minion Holder.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: Coyote on July 01, 2011, 03:08:26 PM
If Congress is claiming they don't know what's going on, then that is just stupid.

Violation of the War Powers Act to begin with.  Not only Libya, but Somalia.  Instead of stopping the wars he inherited, he has entered into at least two more.  Later, we may find he was involved in the conspiracy for Fast and Furious too along with his minion Holder.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: matrsnot on July 01, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
He is supposed to get permission.  Congress declares war, not the president
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: fish on July 01, 2011, 03:25:30 PM
seeing how nobama has been sticking it to the country since taking office, halperin is spot on!
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: Racer on July 01, 2011, 03:39:02 PM
Are you saying that you can't disagree with someone without disrespecting them?   

 
Thats pretty much the way it works.  Disagree and the name calling begins. 
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: Coyote on July 01, 2011, 03:41:42 PM
Immature.


 
Thats pretty much the way it works.  Disagree and the name calling begins. 
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: fish on July 01, 2011, 04:05:32 PM
Quote from: Racer on Today at 10:39:02 AM
Thats pretty much the way it works.  Disagree and the name calling begins. 


that's in the libs playbook!

they were so respectful during W's term? LOL LOL

at least nobama earns the scorn he recieves.

 where is nobama this weekend after scoldin congress about the debt ceiling?

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/07/01/obama_takes_a_break_at_camp_david/ (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/07/01/obama_takes_a_break_at_camp_david/)

must be tired from all that golfing!
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: Coyote on July 01, 2011, 04:52:46 PM
It's all about the individual who does the "name calling."  I taught my kids how I was taught...there is Aunt Denise, Uncle Verne, Mr. Severs, Mrs. Carson, Captain Davis, Sheriff King, Grandma Brooks, Senator Kennedy, and President Obama.  Maybe (probably) they all acted poorly at one point or another, but we will always be respectful of one another.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: matrsnot on July 01, 2011, 04:59:42 PM
Well, I don't watch much news anymore on TV.  Try to get it from online now.  But I am thinking Fox will take this guy in.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: Racer on July 01, 2011, 05:21:55 PM
It's all about the individual who does the "name calling."  I taught my kids how I was taught...there is Aunt Denise, Uncle Verne, Mr. Severs, Mrs. Carson, Captain Davis, Sheriff King, Grandma Brooks, Senator Kennedy, and President Obama.  Maybe (probably) they all acted poorly at one point or another, but we will always be respectful of one another.

 
Well said.     :{:{:
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: matrsnot on July 01, 2011, 07:31:27 PM
Wonder how big a raise he got when he said the same thing about Bush II????
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: fish on July 02, 2011, 01:49:23 AM
that's different matrs. the libs are exempt from their own rules(?) LOL LOL

respect is reciprocal; ya gotta give it to get it. Nobama does not respect the american people.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: Pete on July 02, 2011, 04:29:35 AM
Immature.


What did senator Obama say about Bush, He needs congress approval and he got it. What did he say about increasing the fedrial deficit, now the shoe is on his foot and turns out he has bigger feet to stick in his mouth. Common folks, just look what he said before he was elected and what he is doing. Beck really let loose on him on GBTV on 6-30. All should view it.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: harlow on July 06, 2011, 04:24:50 PM
Obama is a dick....He respects no one, so he deserves the same.  If he wants respect as president maybe he needs to start acting like one.......maybe if he would spend as much time in the oval office as he does on the golf course our nation would not be in financial crisis.   The only numbers going down where he is concerned is his golf score.  He is a disgrace to our nation and is making us look like fools to other countries....or is that his plan? 

Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: fish on July 06, 2011, 04:48:08 PM
  GREAT post! telling it like it is!
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: matrsnot on July 06, 2011, 06:23:35 PM
Harlow, that is his plan.  His apology tour should have been a clue.  And hiring different people leaning toward Marxism and outright communists should have been another.  Performing a coup without the violence because the sheeple are still following and asleep. 
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: darrellmaurina on July 06, 2011, 07:24:27 PM
Obama is a dick....He respects no one, so he deserves the same.  If he wants respect as president maybe he needs to start acting like one.......maybe if he would spend as much time in the oval office as he does on the golf course our nation would not be in financial crisis.   The only numbers going down where he is concerned is his golf score.  He is a disgrace to our nation and is making us look like fools to other countries....or is that his plan?

Harlow, I don't make the decisions here -- that's up to Rick Lepard -- but I do not believe calling any elected official a "dick" is appropriate. Period.
 
He is President Obama until the end of his term. If you can't respect his actions, respect his office.
 
Everybody who pays any attention to my views knows I didn't vote for President Obama, and as a lifelong Republican, I have major problems with liberalism. Conservatives believe in constitutional government. We are not revolutionaries. We are not Saul Alinsky-style radicals. Our president -- and yes, he is **OUR** president -- was right about at least one thing: elections have consequences. We, as Americans, brought these consequences upon ourselves by majority vote in 2008. In a republic, we solve those problems by voting people out of office, not by disrespecting the office.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: matrsnot on July 06, 2011, 08:01:08 PM
Harlow was giving the "man", not the office, the respect he has earned while in office.  which is absolutely NONE. He gives not one ounce of respect to the citizens nor this country itself.  As for any namecalling, nobody here has called any other person a name other than their screen name.  Obama is a public figure and subject to as much criticism as he deserves...which is almost unlimited in my book.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: Racer on July 06, 2011, 08:09:11 PM
Harlow was giving the "man", not the office, the respect he has earned while in office.  which is absolutely NONE. He gives not one ounce of respect to the citizens nor this country itself.  As for any namecalling, nobody here has called any other person a name other than their screen name.  Obama is a public figure and subject to as much criticism as he deserves...which is almost unlimited in my book.

 
This is only your opinion, you may not be correct.  Saying it over and over doesn't make it so.  Calling me a sheeple dosen't help me see any news ideas or listen to any new thoughts.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: Coyote on July 06, 2011, 08:13:59 PM
Agree.  When a person makes a statement that President Obama has no respect for the citizens or the country, it sounds as if they are representing the thoughts of a group and since I'm not of that group, would think it would be better to state it as their "personal opinion," and leave the others out of it.


 
This is only your opinion, you may not be correct.  Saying it over and over doesn't make it so.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: matrsnot on July 06, 2011, 08:18:55 PM
Ok.  It is MY personal opinion that Obama deserves little to no respect.  I listed my reasons above. 
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: Coyote on July 06, 2011, 08:25:58 PM
lol.  Thanks.

Ok.  It is MY personal opinion that Obama deserves little to no respect.  I listed my reasons above. 
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: darrellmaurina on July 06, 2011, 09:25:48 PM
My problem is with calling President Obama a "dick."

Yes, he's a public official and Americans have the right to call him by that name. I've been called by that name -- and worse -- in public meetings by elected officials, some of them right here in this county. I've recently been reminded of something I had forgotten, that one elected official here not only called me by that name in a public meeting but then retracted his statement and said he's wrong, that's a part of a man, and I don't deserve that name. To call reporters bad names like that, and worse, is pretty much par for the course. I don't question the legal rights involved, and you will not hear me questioning the right of people to call me a "dick." (You may see me respond pretty strongly, but I don't question their rights.)

I do question whether that type of language, when used for our public officials, is corrosive to the institutions of the republic.

You will never hear me using that term for any public official. You may hear me say the elected official is incompetent, corrupt, or isn't doing his job (i.e., malfeasance, misfeasance, or nonfeasance). It's considerably more likely that you may hear me use specific descriptions of what he did wrong, since I think calling attention to what people did wrong is more effective than just saying bad things about them. Under certain circumstances I may call publicly for the removal of somebody via the ballot box in the next election, though I very rarely do things of that type. In the most extreme cases, you may even see me calling for the removal of the official prior to the end of his term by impeachment, recall, or other procedures.

All of those are legitimate ways to get rid of officials who should not be in office. Namecalling does nothing to get rid of the bad guy, and has the effect of promoting disrespect for the office.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: matrsnot on July 07, 2011, 12:28:04 AM
Darrell, yo u are not correct on a couple of things.  Not all of us brought him on us.  ONly the people voting against Bush.  They are getting what they deserve.  The rest of us are just holding of and hoping to get rid of him.  I listed my reasons above.  He has disrespected the country and the free citizens thereof.  He, as a man deserves no respect from me.  Only his office is respected.  they are two separate issues.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: fish on July 07, 2011, 02:45:31 AM
I don't recall any of the libs rallying to say the same about respecting  W ! At least his were honest mistakes and he is still respected by many.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: darrellmaurina on July 07, 2011, 04:17:42 AM
I don't recall any of the libs rallying to say the same about respecting  W ! At least his were honest mistakes and he is still respected by many.

I agree with your point in general, and that's one of the differences between conservatives and the more radical types of liberals. Conservatives respect the institutions of government. The difference between moderate liberals and their more radical cousins is that militant leftists do not have that respect for the institutions of government, and are willing to achieve victory by radical or even anarchistic means. Conservatives have no business using those tactics from Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" -- they have their own internal logic, and they will lead places we most emphatically do not want to go.

Actually, there have been a few examples of left-wingers coming to the support of George Bush in the face of extreme attacks. Remember, for example, after the Venezuelan ruler Hugo Chavez came to the United Nations and made his wild-eyed "sulfur" speech about President Bush, and then offered to provide cheap gas through the Venezuelan-owned oil company to poor people in Harlem? The leftist Congressman from that district, Charlie Rangel, said this:

"It should be clear to all heads of government that criticism of Bush Administration policies, either domestic or foreign, does not entitle them to attack the President personally. George Bush is the president of the United States and represents the entire country. Any demeaning or public attacks against him are viewed by Republicans, Democrats, and all Americans as an attack on all of us. I feel that I must speak out now since the Venezuelan government has been instrumental in providing oil at discounted prices to people in low income communities who have suffered increases in rent as heating oil prices have risen sharply. By offering this benefit to people in need, Venezuela has won many friends in poor communities of New York and other states..."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,215042,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,215042,00.html)

This may be one of the few times I can think of that Charlie Rangel did something right. He defended our president on the grounds that even those who disagree with his policies need to stay away from certain types of attacks. Conservatives might do well to follow Rangel's model here of how to disagree with a president on the opposite side of the political spectrum.

The president of the United States is **OUR** president, whether we like it or not (and I, for one, don't). He needs to be treated accordingly, given the respect due his office.

I certainly support those who criticize his policies. President Obama needs to be voted out of office, and in the meantime his policies need to be blocked by Congress, and if that doesn't work, then blocked by states or the local level when that's possible.

But he **IS** the president, he's **OUR** problem, and in a republic, we all have to suffer the consequences of our bad decisions when made by public vote or by our elected representatives.
Title: Re: MSNBC 'Indefinitely' Suspends Mark Halperin For Calling Obama A "Dick"
Post by: tpgunbiz on July 07, 2011, 07:48:22 AM
Darrell your not a Dick.....but the president ...........hes not even come close to making good on a single promise. hes worthless, maybe not a dick, but worthless none the less. I cant wait till we have a republican back in office and I was a democrat .