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Opinion Section => Night Club, Bars, Night Life. => Topic started by: jeepguy on April 27, 2009, 03:21:15 PM

Title: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: jeepguy on April 27, 2009, 03:21:15 PM
We went there Friday night for the second time, we were bouncing around from Bar to Bar having a beer and just checking out the area, we went into Wiskeys and they wanted to charge us $5 to get in, I talked to one of the owners and told him that there were 21 of us that wanted to come in and have a beer and then leave and wanted to know if he would wave the cover charge, he said no, I was amazed that he would turn away so many people, so we went to Shenanigans and spent a but load of money, Man I have heard of some bad bussiness decisions but that one takes the cake.
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: 48fan on April 27, 2009, 04:18:41 PM
Why do they charge a cover? Do they have live entertainment?
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: jeepguy on April 27, 2009, 05:20:44 PM
nope, that is what we could not understand, I refuse to pay a cover charge at a bar when I'm going to spend money in there anyways. just not good business sense. I hope james knows what his partner is doing to the place because he is loosing alot of money
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: fknarmyguyretired on April 27, 2009, 06:24:14 PM
They are just trying to keep the rif-raf like me out !  I refuse to pay a cover unless a place has a live band or entertainment, and then the cover must be a reasonable amount.  And no, a DJ does not qualify as justification to charge  a cover for me.
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: 48fan on April 27, 2009, 06:57:29 PM
Guess I fall into the same boat because I wouldn't pay to go drink. To many FREE bars..
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Pete on April 28, 2009, 04:21:37 AM
Thanks, don't go to many bars but now know of one I sure won't go to.
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: jeepguy on April 28, 2009, 11:57:17 AM
same here if they have a band I will pay, but not for a DJ.
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Lepard LLC on April 28, 2009, 12:33:17 PM
Area 151, Twilite, and Ramada have covers, this isn't anything new for larger uptown bars..  Jeep you said you went there before so you knew there was a cover, right
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: 48fan on April 28, 2009, 12:37:09 PM
Uptown Bars.. HA HA HA This is St Robert we are talking about..
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Lepard LLC on April 28, 2009, 01:05:56 PM
Good point. LOL  :yahoo:
 
Uptown Bars.. HA HA HA This is St Robert we are talking about..
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: jeepguy on April 28, 2009, 06:16:41 PM
yes I have gone there before and there was no cover charge, it is the same at Area 151 and at the Ramada, but they don't charge us because of the number of people we bring in with us.
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Lepard LLC on October 02, 2010, 08:17:01 PM
Tonight is their last night in business, doors are closing.
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: kari on October 03, 2010, 08:48:10 PM
Don't know if it's true, but I heard rumor that there was some problem with a fundraiser for Eddie Acosta? 
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Lepard LLC on October 03, 2010, 09:07:49 PM
No problem at all.
 
Don't know if it's true, but I heard rumor that there was some problem with a fundraiser for Eddie Acosta?
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: littlebit on October 04, 2010, 12:47:50 AM
Wasn't it called whiskey's?
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: blissfullybusy on October 04, 2010, 02:19:33 AM
Tonight is their last night in business, doors are closing.

Wonder why
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Digital Narcosis on October 04, 2010, 03:08:38 AM
This town is too small for more than two or three nightclubs.  There isn't the population base here to support all of them.

Its unfortunate... but it happens pretty often.

Wonder why
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: okie the thread killer on October 04, 2010, 03:34:03 AM
well have to call a bit of bs there....back in the 70's and early 80's, every bar in town was packed.....and there were a bunch of them, and I am talking 7 days a week......my husband is a musician, and that supported us for many many years...
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: tpgunbiz on October 04, 2010, 05:17:29 AM
Problem is now they dont let all those guys loose every weekend now. The town has changed tremendously in the past ten years. We used to line em up friday night and be booked until sunday. Now we wish and hope some get loose and even then we still have to hope we get some of them. Ill be glad when the economy goes back to normal and the fort does as well. were choking as well
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Digital Narcosis on October 04, 2010, 10:32:22 AM
Its not BS.  Its my business to know these things because it effects my... well, business.

Live music doesn't mean a whole lot to anyone right now.  I've already been down this road in this town and it just doesn't work here.  I don't blame the musicians... I blame current American culture... or at least the culture that is perceived as popular in this area that is a piece of American culture..  Bands don't sell anymore.  Bands do a lot better in college towns... and even then its becoming a dying act.  Its unfortunate... but its true.  Blame hip hop and rap's popularity.  Nobody cares about SKILL anymore when it comes to music.

The media is selling garbage as gold and everyone seems to be eager to take a bit bite and smile and buy whatever new clothing line is being pushed by whatever fast talking talentless criminal they dressed up and called a musician this week who resamples old 80's melodies who's catalog rights they've bought up because their copyrights ran out.

The population goes where the hype is at... and unfortunately... all people seem to care about anymore is getting drunk and getting laid and listening to the same 3 rap songs all night.  Granted getting drunk and laid was the goal of most people before... the people before just seemed to appreciate a little bit more variety outside of shots, thugs and hood rats.

The two main clubs in town are Area 151 and Trinity... they're too huge for anyone to compete against.  There just isn't enough population base here to justify other clubs... if we were somewhere like Springfield or even Columbia... everyone would be able to get a piece of the action... but as it stands... its just not going to happen.

If someone wanted to make money opening up a new club... St. Robert isn't the town to do it in.  Somewhere like Rolla would be a better bet.  Something to appeal to the college kids.  There is one bar here in Rolla that I know about... and its not very big.  I seems to do BIG business on the weekends though... probably because this is a college town and its the only bar around here... so there aren't many options.

Its just too bad someone won't open something here and DO IT RIGHT... the thing on Pine street was a joke... that's why its dead and forgotten.

well have to call a bit of bs there....back in the 70's and early 80's, every bar in town was packed.....and there were a bunch of them, and I am talking 7 days a week......my husband is a musician, and that supported us for many many years...
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Lepard LLC on October 04, 2010, 11:35:00 AM
Digital, you need to get out and look around, the smaller clubs here are thriving with bands. A club like 151 can't survive on bands easily, but then they have never tried the correct bands, although great bands are rare. Your world is one made up of 18 to 22 and that is what the large bars have to do to survive.. I have never seen so many bands doing well locally..
 
 
Its not BS.  Its my business to know these things because it effects my... well, business.

Live music doesn't mean a whole lot to anyone right now.  I've already been down this road in this town and it just doesn't work here.  I don't blame the musicians... I blame current American culture... or at least the culture that is perceived as popular in this area that is a piece of American culture..  Bands don't sell anymore.  Bands do a lot better in college towns... and even then its becoming a dying act.  Its unfortunate... but its true.  Blame hip hop and rap's popularity.  Nobody cares about SKILL anymore when it comes to music.

The media is selling garbage as gold and everyone seems to be eager to take a bit bite and smile and buy whatever new clothing line is being pushed by whatever fast talking talentless criminal they dressed up and called a musician this week who resamples old 80's melodies who's catalog rights they've bought up because their copyrights ran out.

The population goes where the hype is at... and unfortunately... all people seem to care about anymore is getting drunk and getting laid and listening to the same 3 rap songs all night.  Granted getting drunk and laid was the goal of most people before... the people before just seemed to appreciate a little bit more variety outside of shots, thugs and hood rats.

The two main clubs in town are Area 151 and Trinity... they're too huge for anyone to compete against.  There just isn't enough population base here to justify other clubs... if we were somewhere like Springfield or even Columbia... everyone would be able to get a piece of the action... but as it stands... its just not going to happen.

If someone wanted to make money opening up a new club... St. Robert isn't the town to do it in.  Somewhere like Rolla would be a better bet.  Something to appeal to the college kids.  There is one bar here in Rolla that I know about... and its not very big.  I seems to do BIG business on the weekends though... probably because this is a college town and its the only bar around here... so there aren't many options.

Its just too bad someone won't open something here and DO IT RIGHT... the thing on Pine street was a joke... that's why its dead and forgotten.
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Just_a_Biker on October 04, 2010, 07:41:59 PM
I have to disagree DN.  Maybe bands in "clubs" don't do well, but get out of the "club" and check out the local bars in the area.  There are bands every weekend, and the bars that have GOOD bands are packed.  Look at what Shaky J's in Dixon has done to accommodate bands & crowds during the warmer months.  Bands aren't dying out; they are making a come back and folks are coming out to listen to more & more live music... I know this because, well... it's my "business" to know it as well :-)

Its not BS.  Its my business to know these things because it effects my... well, business.

Live music doesn't mean a whole lot to anyone right now.  I've already been down this road in this town and it just doesn't work here.  I don't blame the musicians... I blame current American culture... or at least the culture that is perceived as popular in this area that is a piece of American culture..  Bands don't sell anymore.  Bands do a lot better in college towns... and even then its becoming a dying act.  Its unfortunate... but its true.  Blame hip hop and rap's popularity.  Nobody cares about SKILL anymore when it comes to music.

The media is selling garbage as gold and everyone seems to be eager to take a bit bite and smile and buy whatever new clothing line is being pushed by whatever fast talking talentless criminal they dressed up and called a musician this week who resamples old 80's melodies who's catalog rights they've bought up because their copyrights ran out.

The population goes where the hype is at... and unfortunately... all people seem to care about anymore is getting drunk and getting laid and listening to the same 3 rap songs all night.  Granted getting drunk and laid was the goal of most people before... the people before just seemed to appreciate a little bit more variety outside of shots, thugs and hood rats.

The two main clubs in town are Area 151 and Trinity... they're too huge for anyone to compete against.  There just isn't enough population base here to justify other clubs... if we were somewhere like Springfield or even Columbia... everyone would be able to get a piece of the action... but as it stands... its just not going to happen.

If someone wanted to make money opening up a new club... St. Robert isn't the town to do it in.  Somewhere like Rolla would be a better bet.  Something to appeal to the college kids.  There is one bar here in Rolla that I know about... and its not very big.  I seems to do BIG business on the weekends though... probably because this is a college town and its the only bar around here... so there aren't many options.

Its just too bad someone won't open something here and DO IT RIGHT... the thing on Pine street was a joke... that's why its dead and forgotten.

Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Digital Narcosis on October 04, 2010, 07:42:36 PM
How many local bands do we even have here?

I saw a sign for Ten Down the other day... and Eternity's End comes to mind because I heard some advertisement for them recently... other than that I cannot even think of any...

Digital, you need to get out and look around, the smaller clubs here are thriving with bands. A club like 151 can't survive on bands easily, but then they have never tried the correct bands, although great bands are rare. Your world is one made up of 18 to 22 and that is what the large bars have to do to survive.. I have never seen so many bands doing well locally..
 
 
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Digital Narcosis on October 04, 2010, 07:45:37 PM
What is your definition of "packed?"  60 people?  100?

What is Shaky J's occupancy limit even?

I have to disagree DN.  Maybe bands in "clubs" don't do well, but get out of the "club" and check out the local bars in the area.  There are bands every weekend, and the bars that have GOOD bands are packed.  Look at what Shaky J's in Dixon has done to accommodate bands & crowds during the warmer months.  Bands aren't dying out; they are making a come back and folks are coming out to listen to more & more live music... I know this because, well... it's my "business" to know it as well :-)

Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Geezer Glide Taz on October 04, 2010, 07:57:00 PM
Shaky Js? We had that many bikers Saturday just for a run, and the place was not packed, and apparently you have not seen his Beer garden and stage, you can fit an easy 200 there. When he had ATG and Cricket playing, both inside and out was packed. They had to create a large parking lot down towards the back to accommodate the parking, and even then they cars had to park along D Hwy. They also don't have a large overhead like the big night clubs either, so when they have 200 people there through the night, they have a very profitable night.
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Just_a_Biker on October 04, 2010, 07:59:44 PM
What is your definition of "packed?"  60 people?  100?

What is Shaky J's occupancy limit even?


"Packed" depends on the size of the bar, obviously.  "Packed" for Bottoms Up is going to be a drop in the bucket when compared to 151.  I was referring to the beer garden that Shaky J's built, not the building itself; no idea what the capacity is.

Different strokes for different folks.  Some folks like to shake their money makers on a packed dance floor listening to wiggy wiggy boom boom stuff & others like to relax & appreciate live music.  Age obviously plays a big part in where people choose to go, and we are fortunate to have a good variety of different establishments in our area that cover a wide range of likes & interests.  My point was that live music is very much alive & thriving here in Pulaski County, and smaller establishments are starting to see the benefit that live music brings.
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Digital Narcosis on October 04, 2010, 10:07:07 PM
How many bands do we have around here?
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Racer on October 04, 2010, 10:19:43 PM
How many bands do we have around here?



Generation Gap     :th_thicon_super:
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: 2CardJohnE on October 04, 2010, 10:20:49 PM
How many bands do we have around here?
They come from all over. listen to the "homegrown" radio show on 93.5 at the lake every sunday.  They have locals who have recorded and pushing there own songs
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Chas on October 04, 2010, 10:32:41 PM
Several of the bars also bring in bands from surrounding areas.  But around here there is Against the Grain, Flashback, First Cum, Kricket Alley, Eternityís End, Randyman Band, Ten Down, and Piney Creek.  There are several others just canít think of their names at the moment. Buddy Green and the electric haze and SoundBoxx  not sure where they are from but they play around here.   I know of four bars that have live music not every weekend but when they do, there is no cover.  You can find at least two bars a weekend that has live music.   I miss just a regular ole DJ that played a little of it all. Like they had back in the Pine, Silver Star, and The Top Hat. Those of you that were here back in the 80s and 90s know what I mean. A couple of you on here were DJs.   Iím tired of Karaoke not that I ever cared for it to begin with.
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: FordGuyu on October 05, 2010, 01:12:34 AM
I've been to Crazy Jack's a few Saturdays with live bands that have been absolutely packed and crazy. DN is right, the bars you guys are talking about don't do business on the same level as 151 and Trinity. However, there's enough people outside that demographic (18-22 y/o army) to support these smaller places and the bands that frequent them. The thing is, even with a steady gig, you ain't payin the bills being in a band around here(ask me how I know) you gotta play multiple nights, drive alot, and bust ass to make decent change playing music anywhere, much less here. I don't know a lot (or hardly any) people that make a living playing music around here.
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: fish on October 05, 2010, 01:41:16 AM
I enjoyed red ryder and joe tanner at the tepee. the dj was ok at the silver star and top hat. a good band will draw a crowd. been a while since I listened to a good band at a bar. it would be worth the trip!
sailor's pier was good too.
Title: Re: Wiskeys Bar
Post by: Just_a_Biker on October 05, 2010, 06:01:17 PM
How many bands do we have around here?

There are 20+ bands in the Tri-county area that play here in Pulaski County.  Some of the more well known bands have already been listed by name, others may not be that well known, and we frequently have bands that come to Pulaski County to play from as far away as Sedalia & Van Buren.