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Title: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 12, 2014, 02:10:01 PM
Iraq is falling, Iran is in there, Syria is still killing their own people, afghanistan will fall right after we leave.

nobama was told there would be a vacuum in Iraq if we left too early! a cvacuum filled by terrorists.

how long before another attack here?
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 12, 2014, 04:35:15 PM
Iraq is falling, Iran is in there, Syria is still killing their own people, afghanistan will fall right after we leave.

nobama was told there would be a vacuum in Iraq if we left too early! a cvacuum filled by terrorists.

how long before another attack here?
What prophecy is this the war's and rumors of war... Like it's always been from the dawn of man.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 12, 2014, 10:16:52 PM
the events leading to armegeddon. read Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel.

there have been wars and rumors of wars for centuries. the middle east is the epicenter of the events leading to the false prophet.

Irag is being retaken by the terrorists, iran is sending troops into Iraq. Afghanistan will fall as we leave this year, those 9800 troops left behind will be in jeopardy. Pakistan is getting involved and Syria has a war going still. along with problems in Egypt and Libya

nobama was told leaving too soon from Iraq would create a vaccum , it happened. the 5 terrorists released from gitmo were asked for by name by the terrorists nobama said he would not negotiate with.

this sets the stage for the peacemaker. iran and Pakistan have nukes. the area could go nuclear.

the first city taken was mosul, also referred to as Nineveh, which fell in the same area.

could happen or not, but given the circumstances, the whole middle east could become a major war zone, something that should not be dismissed.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: shadylane on June 13, 2014, 03:34:04 AM
Biblical prophecy and war in the middle east is one thing.
If you want to predict the future, think Big OIL profits?
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 13, 2014, 04:36:36 AM
I'm not predicting what God's word has already said will happen.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 13, 2014, 01:32:26 PM
the events leading to armegeddon. read Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel.

there have been wars and rumors of wars for centuries. the middle east is the epicenter of the events leading to the false prophet.

Irag is being retaken by the terrorists, iran is sending troops into Iraq. Afghanistan will fall as we leave this year, those 9800 troops left behind will be in jeopardy. Pakistan is getting involved and Syria has a war going still. along with problems in Egypt and Libya

nobama was told leaving too soon from Iraq would create a vaccum , it happened. the 5 terrorists released from gitmo were asked for by name by the terrorists nobama said he would not negotiate with.

this sets the stage for the peacemaker. iran and Pakistan have nukes. the area could go nuclear.

the first city taken was mosul, also referred to as Nineveh, which fell in the same area.

could happen or not, but given the circumstances, the whole middle east could become a major war zone, something that should not be dismissed.
And in five, ten, 20 or 50 years goes by and nothing happens I am sure you will renounce Christ as a fraud right?  ::)
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 13, 2014, 05:10:23 PM
Only God knows the date. Jesus doesn't. don't read much still, eh? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
 I hope you don't pass on these qualities to your bastard son! How would Jesus be a fraud?????????????
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: shadylane on June 13, 2014, 10:34:34 PM
I hope you don't pass on these qualities to your bastard son!

That wasn't a Christian thing to say.
Fraudulently claiming to be religious, while calling a child bad names.
Do you feel good about that?
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 14, 2014, 02:08:52 AM
Only God knows the date. Jesus doesn't. don't read much still, eh? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
 I hope you don't pass on these qualities to your bastard son! How would Jesus be a fraud? ??? ??? ??? ???
If only god knows the day than how dare jesus say crap about it. In fact unless jesus is god there is no forgiveness of sins. Luke 18:19 only god is good. Mark 2:7 only god can forgive sins. Now the loophole is that a sacrifice can be made of a lamb without blemish Leviticus... However as stated earlier Jesus was not good, as he was not god... And therefore his sacrifice was in vain. Your bible proves that jesus is not the savior... Unless he is god... And if he is god he should know when he is returning. So do you still deny Jesus is god and forsake salvation, or do you claim jesus is god and admit that if the revelations does not happen in a hundred years that god is a lie. GROW SOME BALLS AND STAND FOR YOUR WORD.
Oh also shut the hell up about my son you ignorant Racist asshole.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 14, 2014, 02:13:24 AM
The "name" is in the dictionary. look it up.

I feel sad for the child to have that term describe him. but it is a reflection of the parents, not the child.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 14, 2014, 02:40:24 AM
And here is the backlash as predicted! LOL LOL LOL LOL


Loophole?????LOL LOL LOL LOL there was no Savior in the ot. Why is Jesus called the Lamb of God??????????????

"My " bible proves you are a liar. Jesus stated that to show the rich man that God is above Jesus. Twist it all you want! LOL LOL

God gave Jesus the authority to forgive sins. Matt 9 2-6 don't know the bible inside out as you claim? what a surprise! LOL LOL LOL LOL

"My" Bible proves Jesus is the Savior. Jesus was crucified and resurrected. read Matt., Mark, luke , John.

Matt. 24:36- "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

prove the bible says Jesus is not the Savior! chapter and verse!

God is the Father, Jesus is the Son of God.  show me where I forsake salvation. show the post! Lying again??????? LOL LOL LOL

no one knows when the revelation will happen, but events are unfolding that you do not understand, until you actually study the bible instead of lying about your knowledge of it. how will you know it doesn't happen in 100 yrs?????LOL LOL LOL LOL

how am I racist????Proof?????????? I am using a term that refers to the child of unwed parents as a bastard. it is YOUR fault that term is accurate describing the status of your son.

hijacking a topic again because you cannot disprove it??what a surprise!!!!!!!!!!
the topic is"Biblical prophecy being fulfilled" in case you forgot!

still craving the negative attention I see!!!!!!!LOL LOL LOL LOL

Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: Racer on June 14, 2014, 03:42:25 AM
The "name" is in the dictionary. look it up.

I feel sad for the child to have that term describe him. but it is a reflection of the parents, not the child.




I admit in front of my lord Jesus I'm a sinner.  But you sir, I can't describe except your not a Christian.  If you are a Christian, we are all in deep trouble.  I dare you to take these post to your minister and let her/him read them.  If they agree, that is not the same faith I share with other Christians.  You are sad but Jesus would have been walking with you since you especially need his help.  A bully picks on children, his child does not post so you have no reason to name call to a child other than your are a bully.  I hope some day you meet ebilly in person and he pulls a Harry Truman on you.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 14, 2014, 04:12:18 AM
sure is different sentiment from past posts racer. maybe you have seen the light!

I apologize for nothing. My beliefs have been ridiculed and my God and Jesus blasphemed. if a person doesn't agree with Christianity, ignore it. if they are dumb enough to criticize and blaspheme a Christians beliefs, what comes their way is on them. they asked for it.

ebilly has a need for negative attention. after another mea culpa on his posts comes another backlash on Christianity.

His sons status is his fault. when he stops ridiculing my beliefs and blaspheming my God, Jesus , and the Holy Spirit, he may get a reprieve.

when he stops lying about knowing the bible inside out and gets caught lying when his "proofs" are proven untrue, he may get a reprieve.

he lacks integrity and is a poor example for his son to follow by being a pathological liar.

he has the power to change that. stop lying, stop blaspheming God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit and accept the fact Christian beliefs should be respected, even if he does not share those beliefs.

He is the one that stooped to the low levels of name calling, as he has demonstrated here, high jacking a thread because he disagrees or cannot disprove it.

again, the topic is "Biblical prophecy being fulfilled". this topic is more important than you may think. God has set no date for Jesus' return to set up His kingdom, but He has given signs to watch for. read Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah. also in the nt, Matthew John Hebrews, revelation.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: Racer on June 14, 2014, 04:42:35 AM
sure is different sentiment from past posts racer. maybe you have seen the light!

I apologize for nothing. My beliefs have been ridiculed and my God and Jesus blasphemed. if a person doesn't agree with Christianity, ignore it. if they are dumb enough to criticize and blaspheme a Christians beliefs, what comes their way is on them. they asked for it.

ebilly has a need for negative attention. after another mea culpa on his posts comes another backlash on Christianity.

His sons status is his fault. when he stops ridiculing my beliefs and blaspheming my God, Jesus , and the Holy Spirit, he may get a reprieve.

when he stops lying about knowing the bible inside out and gets caught lying when his "proofs" are proven untrue, he may get a reprieve.

he lacks integrity and is a poor example for his son to follow by being a pathological liar.

he has the power to change that. stop lying, stop blaspheming God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit and accept the fact Christian beliefs should be respected, even if he does not share those beliefs.

He is the one that stooped to the low levels of name calling, as he has demonstrated here, high jacking a thread because he disagrees or cannot disprove it.

again, the topic is "Biblical prophecy being fulfilled". this topic is more important than you may think. God has set no date for Jesus' return to set up His kingdom, but He has given signs to watch for. read Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah. also in the nt, Matthew John Hebrews, revelation.






Oh how funny.  Fish I have always seen the light, you have never bothered to ask me or listen to how I feel about my faith.  God does not need you to defend him, I think he would want you to defend a child, that is what a Christian would do.  I pray for you to stop the name calling toward a child, it's just not right.  God can handle any thing that anyone says, he has for century's, but a child should not be bullied.  Give ebilly everything you want that's his choice to play games with you but his child did nothing to you and your using a child to be hurtful and score points in this game.  I do pray you leave the child alone.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: Lepard LLC on June 14, 2014, 05:28:22 AM
Since you guys are so sure of your proof here's a guy who will pay you big bucks for it.

Just a reminder for anyone who says they have proof of any deity, psychic power, or any other magical or supernatural claims. Please see the following challenge.

I know you guys have this wrapped up so perhaps ten percent for me? I mean you will get paid, like Duh!

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html (http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html)


Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: Lepard LLC on June 14, 2014, 05:35:10 AM
Just repeat to them the claims you make in here and I bet they just cut you a check to save further embarrassment on their part..
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: shadylane on June 14, 2014, 11:31:52 PM
Mr. Fish
You, stepped over the line.
Your behavior was unacceptable and also detrimental to your Christian faith.

An apology to ebilly, would right this wrong.




Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: igahmah at work on June 15, 2014, 01:39:28 AM
Fish, please don't call yourself a Christian.  I would not want anyone to put me in the same class as you.  Call yourself religious, for it is religious people who call others names, not people who are "Christ like."  I don't care how you feel about the child's father, it is repugnant to call the child a name.  Jesus, would never call a child a name.  Remember he's the one who said "suffer the little children to come unto me, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 15, 2014, 04:09:31 AM
I did not call the child a name. I don't know his name, but that is what I would address him as. I stated his status as the result of an out of wedlock birth. There are other terms to describe that status. The term is a reflection of the parents, not the child. I repeatedly stated it to show ebilly the log in his eye while he was criticizing the specks in mine. I would think someone who stated he knows the bible inside out would catch on to that.

Luke 6:42
Or how can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother's eye.

apologize to ebilly?????LOL LOL LOL LOL check on who called whom the names. reread the posts.

ebilly wasted no time calling Jesus a fraud on this thread. no God and Jesus do not need me to defend them. but there comes a point some need to shut up about what they don't agree with. don't agree or believe in Christianity? ignore it and move on.

sure I could just ignore ebilly's insults towards Christianity and God and Jesus. But I see nothing wrong with standing up for my beliefs.

you may not think I am a christian,but that is not your call, just an opinion. I follow God's and Jesus' teachings, far from perfectly, but I never claimed to be perfect. I refuse to sit on the fence and tolerate crap and not speak up!
but even you Igahmah are a sinner! Romans 4:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God.

I have ignored many insults and comments, but when enough is enough I speak up. reread ALL the posts so you get a clearer picture, starting months ago.

Matthew 10:33
33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father who is in heaven.


where were you igahmah when the insults were flying? when God , Jesus, and the Holy Spirit were being blasphemed? no input then but you want to defend the ones insulting Christians? not a peep when I was being called names??????
You chose to be silent and not point out the lies flying? no bible verses to prove the ones insulting were wrong? no reproofs?

If you want to sit by quietly, that's fine. your choice. I for one will not be intimidated in a time where Christians are being persecuted for their beliefs, yet degrading behaviors are being celebrated.

Yes , I could have just let it all go. I could have responded as Jesus did. I have given some(not a lot) of encouragement to ebilly when he said he used to be a believer but had to give it up and it was the hardest thing he ever had to do, only to receive a backlash from him. reread the posts. I chose to take a different approach, maybe not how I should have responded, but it cut through the crap and showed ebilly for the liar he is. I repeatedly proved it with his own words. I thought he might see the light and the error of his ways. he sunk to new lows instead. the door has always been open for honest discussion, he chose not to.

why didn't racer try to help ebilly ? why didn't racer state when ebilly was wrong or encourage him to study the bible? why didn't you???

many of you "so called" Christians were silent when the insults were flying, not one of you stated ebilly, hi, shady were wrong. not one of you asked any questions to ebilly or encouraged him to study the bible. you are a reflection of Laodicea: The Complacent Church (Revelation 3:14-22)

There is no doubt what my beliefs are. 2 Timothy 1:7 “For God has not given us a spirit of timidity, but of power and love and discipline.”

Not once have I stated I hate ebilly, prove otherwise. he could have just as easily shut up and moved on or at least intelligently discuss the issue. He chose not to and chose to be consumed by his own anger towards Christianity. the door has always been open for him to honestly discuss God and Jesus. he chose a path of anger instead. the ball is in his court to change his attitude and direction if he wants to experience the peace of being in God's rest;
 Matt 11:28-30 28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: Racer on June 15, 2014, 06:00:20 AM
I did not call the child a name. I don't know his name, but that is what I would address him as. I stated his status as the result of an out of wedlock birth. There are other terms to describe that status. The term is a reflection of the parents, not the child. I repeatedly stated it to show ebilly the log in his eye while he was criticizing the specks in mine. I would think someone who stated he knows the bible inside out would catch on to that.

Luke 6:42
Or how can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother's eye.

apologize to ebilly? ??? ?LOL LOL LOL LOL check on who called whom the names. reread the posts.

ebilly wasted no time calling Jesus a fraud on this thread. no God and Jesus do not need me to defend them. but there comes a point some need to shut up about what they don't agree with. don't agree or believe in Christianity? ignore it and move on.

sure I could just ignore ebilly's insults towards Christianity and God and Jesus. But I see nothing wrong with standing up for my beliefs.

you may not think I am a christian,but that is not your call, just an opinion. I follow God's and Jesus' teachings, far from perfectly, but I never claimed to be perfect. I refuse to sit on the fence and tolerate crap and not speak up!
but even you Igahmah are a sinner! Romans 4:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God.

I have ignored many insults and comments, but when enough is enough I speak up. reread ALL the posts so you get a clearer picture, starting months ago.

Matthew 10:33
33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father who is in heaven.


where were you igahmah when the insults were flying? when God , Jesus, and the Holy Spirit were being blasphemed? no input then but you want to defend the ones insulting Christians? not a peep when I was being called names? ??? ??
You chose to be silent and not point out the lies flying? no bible verses to prove the ones insulting were wrong? no reproofs?

If you want to sit by quietly, that's fine. your choice. I for one will not be intimidated in a time where Christians are being persecuted for their beliefs, yet degrading behaviors are being celebrated.

Yes , I could have just let it all go. I could have responded as Jesus did. I have given some(not a lot) of encouragement to ebilly when he said he used to be a believer but had to give it up and it was the hardest thing he ever had to do, only to receive a backlash from him. reread the posts. I chose to take a different approach, maybe not how I should have responded, but it cut through the crap and showed ebilly for the liar he is. I repeatedly proved it with his own words. I thought he might see the light and the error of his ways. he sunk to new lows instead. the door has always been open for honest discussion, he chose not to.

why didn't racer try to help ebilly ? why didn't racer state when ebilly was wrong or encourage him to study the bible? why didn't you???

many of you "so called" Christians were silent when the insults were flying, not one of you stated ebilly, hi, shady were wrong. not one of you asked any questions to ebilly or encouraged him to study the bible. you are a reflection of Laodicea: The Complacent Church (Revelation 3:14-22)

There is no doubt what my beliefs are. 2 Timothy 1:7 “For God has not given us a spirit of timidity, but of power and love and discipline.”

Not once have I stated I hate ebilly, prove otherwise. he could have just as easily shut up and moved on or at least intelligently discuss the issue. He chose not to and chose to be consumed by his own anger towards Christianity. the door has always been open for him to honestly discuss God and Jesus. he chose a path of anger instead. the ball is in his court to change his attitude and direction if he wants to experience the peace of being in God's rest;
 Matt 11:28-30 28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”






Can you not reason?  You did call a child a name just because his father did not agree with your faith.. You are wrong, dead wrong.  My prayers for you continue.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 15, 2014, 01:12:00 PM
that name is a label his unwed parents gave him. keep twisting all you want! LOL LOL LOL beat it to death all you want, it does not change the fact the boy is illegitimate!
 
you dwell on oNE thing I stated(it isn't false), but you are silent on the lies, name calling, or anything ebilly stated. you condone what he states 100%???????????
 
How did he end his second post on this thread? calling me a name!
 
go ahead and condone his behavior all you want! You are making his day right now! LOL LOL LOL
 


 
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 15, 2014, 01:31:41 PM
that name is a label his unwed parents gave him. keep twisting all you want! LOL LOL LOL beat it to death all you want, it does not change the fact the boy is illegitimate!
 
you dwell on oNE thing I stated(it isn't false), but you are silent on the lies, name calling, or anything ebilly stated. you condone what he states 100%???????????
 
How did he end his second post on this thread? calling me a name!
 
go ahead and condone his behavior all you want! You are making his day right now! LOL LOL LOL
You know whats sad fish, You had asked me how many people you turned from christ, and now you have christians telling you to apologize, but unlike you I do forgive you. For I can forgive my enemies 77 times 7 times. I know you don't deserve it, but you have shown me that there are good christians out there, even if you will never be one. I asked you to stop, you won't, so I will ask again. I am not asking for a apology, for I know you can't as your heart is hardened. All I ask is for you to stop.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 15, 2014, 02:01:24 PM
I did not call the child a name. I don't know his name, but that is what I would address him as. I stated his status as the result of an out of wedlock birth.
And I guess you would call a black child a N@ because it is still in some dictionaries. Or a teenager a F@ because they like the same sex. you are a sad little man.
There are other terms to describe that status. The term is a reflection of the parents, not the child. I repeatedly stated it to show ebilly the log in his eye while he was criticizing the specks in mine. I would think someone who stated he knows the bible inside out would catch on to that.
Not realizing that the statement only applies to the individual reading it. Fish you can never remove my log while your eye has a forest in it.

Luke 6:42
Or how can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother's eye.

apologize to ebilly? ??? ?LOL LOL LOL LOL check on who called whom the names. reread the posts.
Yes look at how many of his friends and family I insulted, or made fun of anything but his IQ (And perhaps his sexuality, but when you talk about homosexuals so much you might need to come out yourself) Oh 0 times

ebilly wasted no time calling Jesus a fraud on this thread
And you spent zero time debating it like a adult. If we can't question if god exist then where is the freedom.
. no God and Jesus do not need me to defend them. but there comes a point some need to shut up about what they don't agree with. don't agree or believe in Christianity? ignore it and move on.
Freedom of speech. I have every right to question it, and when you keep making threads attacking science and lifestyles I have every right to defend them.

sure I could just ignore ebilly's insults towards Christianity and God and Jesus. But I see nothing wrong with standing up for my beliefs.
Sure stand for your faith with Logic, reason and humility, not by being a ass.

you may not think I am a christian,but that is not your call, just an opinion. I follow God's and Jesus' teachings, far from perfectly, but I never claimed to be perfect. I refuse to sit on the fence and tolerate crap and not speak up!
but even you Igahmah are a sinner! Romans 4:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God.
And when one is reborn they become a new creation, the old things pass away. How does calling my son a name strengthen the lord. Were you ever reborn.

I have ignored many insults and comments, but when enough is enough I speak up. reread ALL the posts so you get a clearer picture, starting months ago.
And surely I tell you not to forgive them 7 times but to forgive them 77 times 7 times. I am not bound to that but I forgive you... Because I know you can't forgive me.

Matthew 10:33
33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father who is in heaven.
And test all things and stand for those things that are true.


where were you igahmah when the insults were flying? when God , Jesus, and the Holy Spirit were being blasphemed? no input then but you want to defend the ones insulting Christians? not a peep when I was being called names? ??? ??
You chose to be silent and not point out the lies flying? no bible verses to prove the ones insulting were wrong? no reproofs?

If you want to sit by quietly, that's fine. your choice. I for one will not be intimidated in a time where Christians are being persecuted for their beliefs, yet degrading behaviors are being celebrated.

Yes , I could have just let it all go. I could have responded as Jesus did. I have given some(not a lot) of encouragement to ebilly when he said he used to be a believer but had to give it up and it was the hardest thing he ever had to do, only to receive a backlash from him. reread the posts. I chose to take a different approach, maybe not how I should have responded, but it cut through the crap and showed ebilly for the liar he is. I repeatedly proved it with his own words. I thought he might see the light and the error of his ways. he sunk to new lows instead. the door has always been open for honest discussion, he chose not to.

why didn't racer try to help ebilly ? why didn't racer state when ebilly was wrong or encourage him to study the bible? why didn't you???
Most of my attacks were not against Christianity itself but against fundies who use it to propogate untruths. In a way us atheist are what is keeping Christianity from turning into a islamic religion. If we don't call you out on untruths you would believe the sun goes around the earth and sits on pillars.

many of you "so called" Christians were silent when the insults were flying, not one of you stated ebilly, hi, shady were wrong. not one of you asked any questions to ebilly or encouraged him to study the bible. you are a reflection of Laodicea: The Complacent Church (Revelation 3:14-22)

There is no doubt what my beliefs are. 2 Timothy 1:7 “For God has not given us a spirit of timidity, but of power and love and discipline.”

Not once have I stated I hate ebilly, prove otherwise. he could have just as easily shut up and moved on or at least intelligently discuss the issue.
Yes because where I tried to prove you were making prophesy up (I never attacked god, mind you, I attacked your knowledge of god. You stated that this is a prophesy and I was pointing out this is one of the things that drive people from the church. Every 5 years or so you hear Rapture. Just forget about finding out when it will happen. It's like losing your virginity, the more you talk to your friends about how it will happen soon, the less likely we will believe it.
He chose not to and chose to be consumed by his own anger towards Christianity.
All I have asked for is one proof. You think everything is a suitable answer but I told you it is not for me.
the door has always been open for him to honestly discuss God and Jesus.
he chose a path of anger instead. the ball is in his court to change his attitude and direction if he wants to experience the peace of being in God's rest;
I like how you picture me as a angry person. I am a happy go lucky guy who loves to debate and ask questions. It is sad that you try to read me and fail. I think I would take you a lot better if every answer you gave wasn't 50 years old. I am sorry but as new technology shows up the apologist has failed to even try to come close.
Matt 11:28-30 28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
Fine so fish is one unable to debate truth with you then. If you wish not to debate why are you here. If you are here to debate why do you keep bringing up my son and trying to upset me.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 15, 2014, 06:54:24 PM
I'll stop when you stop.

How did you end your 2nd post on here??

Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 15, 2014, 07:09:55 PM
I'll stop when you stop.

How did you end your 2nd post on here??
I said that if you insist on calling this Prophesy, (Which I laughed at) then you have to admit jesus is a liar.
There are 3 points here.
You accurately know that this is a prophecy.
That you do not have faith in jesus
That jesus is a fraud.
Any one of those would beat the circle. If you admitted that you might be wrong and seeing the future wrong, Then you would not be caught in this circle.
If you had faith in both Jesus and your prophesy then you would have nothing to be scared of or 3
Jesus is a fraud.


I personally feel that all three may be wrong, but I know #2 is wrong for sure. If you had faith in a mustard seed you wouldn't have to try to run when put in a corner.
That said I do not have faith in a god or gods. That would mean that I do believe that jesus is a fraud, a non existent human. I have every right to do that, as I am a human with free will.
Now please beg your God for forgiveness.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 15, 2014, 07:34:18 PM



2 posts, different tones! go figure! LOL LOL

nope a black kid is a black kid. if he was illegitimate as your son he would have the same status. the homosexual kid is that. you twisting ain't working.

now suggesting I am homosexual??LOL LOL LOL LOL you are the one that said you were born gay!!!!!

atheists are performing a public service???LOL LOL LOL what untruths have YOU exposed??? Who said "the sun goes around the earth and sits on pillars"?

How were you trying to prove I was making prophecy up?  Jesus states in Matt 24:6 And you will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.

"You stated that this is a prophesy and I was pointing out this is one of the things that drive people from the church."
 show me your statement pointing out this prophecy is one of the things driving people from the church! you made no such statement!!

Jesus has given us signs to watch for, so we can know He is coming soon.
I have stated before there is no rapture.

My proofs have come from the bible.

you have stated before you have anger issues. I believe you! reread the tone of the posts in this topic, and others! you are the one that started with the insults, not me. I am capable of debating without insults, I don't believe you are.

the topic is Biblical prophecy being fullfilled . This topic is more important than ever, given world events. start another thread to whine about how mean I am, and try to debate/discuss this one intelligently without insults.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 15, 2014, 07:52:09 PM
It is a prophecy not a prophesy! LOL LOL Jesus stated in Matt 24:6 of  wars and rumors of wars. Wars in the middle east leading up to armageddon  are prophetic and are in the bible.

your 3 points are ridiculous
1- I believe Jesus words in the bible ,there are wars and rumors of wars going on right now! Prohecy fulfilled! whether they lead to Armageddon is yet to be seen.
2 LOL LOL who has faith in a mustard seed???????? why put it in a corner??LOL LOL LOL LOL who is afraid?? what will happen will happen whether we like it or not!

I stated at the end of post#3-could happen or not, but given the circumstances, the whole middle east could become a major war zone, something that should not be dismissed.

This is what you should read: Matt 17:20-
He replied, "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

3-You can choose to deny Jesus' existence , but don't insult my belief He does exist.
You want to deny God's existence and Jesus as the Savior ? fine . just don't insult my beliefs in them.

I am very capable of debating truth. I have supplied facts to back up my statements. you choose to deny them. your choice, but that doesn't make my proofs untrue.

God has forgiven me as I have forgiven you.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 15, 2014, 10:51:10 PM
It is a prophecy not a prophesy! LOL LOL Jesus stated in Matt 24:6 of  wars and rumors of wars. Wars in the middle east leading up to armageddon  are prophetic and are in the bible.
Middle east has always been at war. This is not a prophecy, this is a fact. Next thing you know we will say the earth going around the sun is a sign  ::)

your 3 points are ridiculous
1- I believe Jesus words in the bible ,there are wars and rumors of wars going on right now!
We have not had a period of 5 years when there wasn't been a war.
Prohecy fulfilled! whether they lead to Armageddon is yet to be seen.
There was also the, Verily I say this generation shall not pass away... And yet no one from the roman empire is alive today.
2 LOL LOL who has faith in a mustard seed? ??? ??? ? why put it in a corner??LOL LOL LOL LOL who is afraid?? what will happen will happen whether we like it or not!

I stated at the end of post#3-could happen or not, but given the circumstances, the whole middle east could become a major war zone, something that should not be dismissed.

This is what you should read: Matt 17:20-
He replied, "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."
I realize the verse, I was using it to show if your faith was the value of a mustard seed you wouldn't have even questioned that jesus was coming in 5, 10 or a hundred years.

3-You can choose to deny Jesus' existence , but don't insult my belief He does exist.
You want to deny God's existence and Jesus as the Savior ? fine . just don't insult my beliefs in them.
Than don't go making threads that call it out. I don't go to your house and say your god is stupid. You are the one bringing it to the marketplace of ideas and shining it up. Can't blame me if I don't want to buy (In my opinion) your polished turd. 

I am very capable of debating truth.
Haven't seen it.
I have supplied facts to back up my statements.
Not a single one.
you choose to deny them.
God did it is not proof of anything. Prove god did it.
your choice, but that doesn't make my proofs untrue.
You have yet to supply anything other than god did it.

God has forgiven me as I have forgiven you.
Oh, so no more bringing my son into it... Oh of course not. I will wait for that to return.


2 posts, different tones! go figure! LOL LOL

nope a black kid is a black kid.
Why, I can find a dictionary claiming he is a N Why is it different.
if he was illegitimate as your son he would have the same status. the homosexual kid is that. you twisting ain't working.

now suggesting I am homosexual??LOL LOL LOL LOL you are the one that said you were born gay!!!!!
I said that one is born gay, not that I am gay.

atheists are performing a public service???LOL LOL LOL what untruths have YOU exposed
Noahs flood... For one,
??? Who said "the sun goes around the earth and sits on pillars"?
Your bible. Read it.

How were you trying to prove I was making prophecy up?  Jesus states in Matt 24:6 And you will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.
That is not a prophecy. Learn what prophecy is. The only part of it is the part you skip, THIS GENERATION WILL NOT PASS AWAY BEFORE THE SON OF MAN RETURNS IN GLORY...

"You stated that this is a prophesy and I was pointing out this is one of the things that drive people from the church."
 show me your statement pointing out this prophecy is one of the things driving people from the church! you made no such statement!!
I used something called Induction. By showing how stupid it sounded I thought you could see why prophecy was a fail. While I thought the idea that we have been close to the second coming of christ for 2000 years now, that we are no closer was evident in my post about how silly prophecy was, I didn't make myself clear enough.

Jesus has given us signs to watch for, so we can know He is coming soon.
2000 years is not soon.
I have stated before there is no rapture.
Fine, but no second coming of jesus happening either.

My proofs have come from the bible.
And lots of people who read the bible disagree with you. Unless you are all knowing maybe your understanding is wrong... Oh well I know that was a dumb idea as soon as I said it. YOU COULD NEVER BE WRONG.

you have stated before you have anger issues.
Nope Chuck tesla, inventor of the taxidermied Alternating motor you fail.
I believe you! reread the tone of the posts in this topic,
Maybe you put the tones in.
and others! you are the one that started with the insults, not me. I am capable of debating without insults, I don't believe you are.
So every atheist has insulted you first. You know when the world is against you, maybe you should stop being a ass to the world.

the topic is Biblical prophecy being fullfilled . This topic is more important than ever, given world events. start another thread to whine about how mean I am, and try to debate/discuss this one intelligently without insults.
Fine, Prophecy is important, but if I can find a failed prophecy, do you not have to admit your bible has a flaw. According to your book  Deuteronomy 18:21–22
21 “You may say in your heart, ‘How will we know the word which YHVH has not spoken?’ 22 “When a prophet speaks in the name of YHVH, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which YHVH has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.
And as all of the generation that saw jesus are in fact dead, jesus was not of god.
What else went wrong


For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will bring upon Tyrus Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, a king of kings, from the north, with horses, and with chariots, and with horsemen, and companies, and much people. He shall slay with the sword thy daughters in the field: and he shall make a fort against thee, and cast a mount against thee, and lift up the buckler against thee. And he shall set engines of war against thy walls, and with his axes he shall break down thy towers. By reason of the abundance of his horses their dust shall cover thee: thy walls shall shake at the noise of the horsemen, and of the wheels, and of the chariots, when he shall enter into thy gates, as men enter into a city wherein is made a breach. With the hoofs of his horses shall he tread down all thy streets: he shall slay thy people by the sword, and thy strong garrisons shall go down to the ground. And they shall make a spoil of thy riches, and make a prey of thy merchandise: and they shall break down thy walls, and destroy thy pleasant houses: and they shall lay thy stones and thy timber and thy dust in the midst of the water. And I will cause the noise of thy songs to cease; and the sound of thy harps shall be no more heard. And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place to spread nets upon; thou shalt be built no more: for I the LORD have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD

Tyre still exist.

In Ezekiel 30:10 (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible/Ezekiel#Ezekiel_30:10)-11 This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will put an end to the hordes of Egypt by the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. He and his army—the most ruthless of nations— will be brought in to destroy the land. They will draw their swords against Egypt and fill the land with the slain. (NIV)Egypt has never fellWant to say they are metaphors, fine. Just don't tote it as fact
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: igahmah at work on June 16, 2014, 01:00:09 AM
Defend faith and Jesus all you want.  Just don't call people names while doing it.  No matter what you think, it's not Christ like.  Remember when Jesus said "but whoever strikes you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also."  Jesus did not tell us to argue with people about who He is.  He asks us to believe in Him.  As long as you let people know you believe in Jesus, you don't have to fight His battles for Him.  Jesus doesn't need you to "defend" Him.  He just says don't deny Him.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: shadylane on June 16, 2014, 01:14:58 AM
Mr. Fish
Your losing the debate.
The reason is obvious.
Jesus Christ was more liberal than you are.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 16, 2014, 01:56:09 AM
lol lol lol good one shady! wrong, but entertaining!
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 16, 2014, 02:04:04 AM
maybe review ebilly's posts igahmah? you may be surprised at who is doing the name calling! he also stated he has anger issues, he denies it here , but it is in his posts.

I don't like people spreading false doctrines. ebilly has poated many lies about Christianity.

No God and Jesus don't need me to defend them. but when false doctrines are being stated as truths, I will call them out.

I don't go out of my way to start topics on atheism to slam it. I ignore it. ebilly can do the same about Christianity,but chooses not to.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 16, 2014, 02:41:32 AM
some wars are small skirmishes, some are what is going on now. who is the we that has not had a 5 yr period when there hasn't been a war> the US has had 5 yr periods  or more of no wars. the rest of the entire world? different story
 
show me where I questioned Jesus coming back in 5,10, or a hundred years! I have stated God did not give a date.
 
don't agree with the Christianity topics ignore them. this is an opinion page, you want to control free speech now? you are not required to respond to what you don't agree with!
 
I didn't say I would not discuss the label you gave your son. I may or may not
 
A Racial slur is not the result of an illegitimate birth, neither is a term for an abnormal lifestyle.
 
again, you are the one that stated all are born homosexual. I disagree. reread your posts.
 
the flood didn't happen???? prove it.
 
none of the proofs I have given from the bible have been refuted. I am far from perfect, but the verses I have posted prove my points.
 
the generation that is present during the tribulation yrs will not pass before Jesus comes back. that could be during our time or in our kids time

 you still haven't shown me your statement pointing out this prophecy is one of the things driving people from the church! you made no such statement!!

Who said "the sun goes around the earth and sits on pillars"? still can't prove it??
 
To God 1 day is as a 1000 yrs and vice versa. how many yrs was the birth of Jesus prophesized before He was born??
 
you have admitted you have anger issues and said you are working on it, no shame in admitting a flaw. we all have them!
 
not every atheist insulted me first, some haven't at all. but you started the insults, I still let stuff pass without comment. review the posts!
 
You forgot to include Deut 18;20 - But the prophet who speaks a word A)'>presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or B)'>which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.
 
ez. is about Egypt not tyre,
 
there are usually not dates assigned to prophecies. many denominations have tried to say when Jesus is coming back,and He IS coming back. we don't know when, but we have been give signs to watch for. what is going on in the world now and how much civilization has been degraded is a sign.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: shadylane on June 16, 2014, 02:55:08 AM
lol lol lol good one shady! wrong, but entertaining!

Jesus Christ was more liberal than you are.
Entertaining?  Maybe
Wrong? Not.
Take a look at your core beliefs.
You talk politics while hiding behind religion.

Edited:
Many of my friends and family are true Christians.
I respect and admire their beliefs.
You are a fake.......

Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 16, 2014, 05:08:55 AM
some wars are small skirmishes, some are what is going on now. who is the we that has not had a 5 yr period when there hasn't been a war
What is the world, however the middle east doesn't do much better, They have never been at peace.
> the US has had 5 yr periods  or more of no wars. the rest of the entire world? different story
Bible is now only for america now. (Not that the bible mentions a entire 2 continents.

show me where I questioned Jesus coming back in 5,10, or a hundred years! I have stated God did not give a date.
 
don't agree with the Christianity topics ignore them. this is an opinion page, you want to control free speech now?
Control free speech, When have I ever done that. If fact I am saying if you want called out on bs keep posting. You have the right to say what you want, but you don't have a right to not be offended.
you are not required to respond to what you don't agree with!
 
I didn't say I would not discuss the label you gave your son.
I didn't label anyone, you racist.
I may or may not
 
A Racial slur is not the result of an illegitimate birth, neither is a term for an abnormal lifestyle.
I wish that you judge a person for the actions of there life and not a merit of there birth. If a child is born Black, homosexual or out of wedlock, the child did nothing wrong. You like to insult them though.

again, you are the one that stated all are born homosexual. I disagree. reread your posts.
No, I said that SOME are born homosexual. One does not choose their sexual orientation.

the flood didn't happen? ??? prove it.
Not enough water on earth, All sea life would die, all plants would die, All the ground would be salted, A boat can not be built that big out of would without torsion ripping it apart. Not enough air on the ark cor the millions of species that would need to be on the ark. Not enough room for all the species of earth. Kinds make it worse as genetic bottlenecking would kill everything. No way to dispose of all the poop on the ark, no way to store all the food on the ark... Now we get to after the flood. To much water in the air, impossible to breath, Not enough food for the humans, much less all the critters. Not enough fresh water, all the flood water would be salt as it mixed with the ocean, Not enough genetic variation for the next generation. Finally Noahs kids would have to have had one hundred children just to make a city large enough to build the tower. As even a twin every year would only lead to about 40 children the math does not work... How many fails do you need.

none of the proofs I have given from the bible have been refuted. I am far from perfect, but the verses I have posted prove my points.
 
the generation that is present during the tribulation yrs will not pass before Jesus comes back. that could be during our time or in our kids time
That is not what it says. 24 [size=0.65em][/size]Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. [size=0.75em]2 [/size]But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you,[size=0.65em][/size]there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”Signs of the End of the Age[size=0.75em]3 [/size]As he sat on [size=0.65em][/size]the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him [size=0.65em][/size]privately, saying, “Tell us, [size=0.65em][/size]when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your [size=0.65em][/size]coming and of [size=0.65em][/size]the end of the age?” [size=0.75em]4 [/size]And Jesus answered them, [size=0.65em][/size]“See that no one leads you astray. [size=0.75em]5 [/size]For [size=0.65em][/size]many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am[size=0.65em][/size]the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. 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[size=0.75em]32 [/size]“From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. [size=0.75em]33 [/size]So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, [size=0.65em][/size]at the very gates. [size=0.75em]34 [/size][size=0.65em][/size]Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. [size=0.75em]35 [/size][size=0.65em][/size]Heaven and earth will pass away, but [size=0.65em][/size]my words will not pass away.


So what generation was he talking to, the subjects were his disciples. This generation, the disciples will not pass away. This is reading comprehension 101. When talking to a person or group of people and you say this and do not open a new subject you are talking to the viewer,. Am I wrong and how. 





 you still haven't shown me your statement pointing out this prophecy is one of the things driving people from the church! you made no such statement!!

Who said "the sun goes around the earth and sits on pillars"? still can't prove it??
"He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.   [/font][/size](From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)[/font][/size]" So the earth can't move, must be the sun.

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[/size][size=78%]The sun moves, not the earth again. [/size]
"He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble.  (From the NIV Bible, Job 9:6)"[/font]
[/size]"Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.  (From the NIV Bible, Job 38:4)"
[/size] Foundations and pillars.





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To God 1 day is as a 1000 yrs and vice versa. how many yrs was the birth of Jesus prophesized before He was born??
So your excuse is that because jesus took so long he can take even longer to get here.
you have admitted you have anger issues and said you are working on it, no shame in admitting a flaw. we all have them!
Oh, you mean when you insult someones child.

not every atheist insulted me first, some haven't at all. but you started the insults, I still let stuff pass without comment. review the posts!
I want the post. Show it to me, and I will see if you are honest.

You forgot to include Deut 18;20 -But the prophet who speaks a word A)'>presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or B)'>which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.
So the bible is filled with lies now. I am ok with with this.

ez. is about Egypt not tyre,
Read it again. It says egypt and Tyre.

there are usually not dates assigned to prophecies. many denominations have tried to say when Jesus is coming back,and He IS coming back. we don't know when, but we have been give signs to watch for. what is going on in the world now and how much civilization has been degraded is a sign.
Look the 2000 years of he is coming back is getting old. I mean I got tired of waiting for dirt to come back after 2 years of commercials. Why can't you just admit that there is no tribulation coming.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 16, 2014, 01:03:20 PM
it is about egypt, tyre is not mentioned in your post

you don't label anyone and call me a racist???? LOL LOL prove I am a racist!

you are starting to get it. I do not blame your sone for his status, you (and your ex) are to blame

nope, you daid all are born homosexual.

the flood was caused by rain 40 days and 40 nights.
water was gathered from the rain on the ark. God gave the dimensions for everything to fit. food, water, etc....

how long after the flood was the tower of babel built? some believe 102 yrs. a lot happens in 102 yrs

the pillars are buildings. picture an earthquake, what shakes ?

no, 1 day to God is like a 1000 days and vice versa. it demonstrates His patience.

I didn't insult someone's child. I stated a fact to a parent. a parent that chose to have a child out of wedlock. the same parent that is so desparate he brought his son and ex into a discussion and posted their comments on my posts. Did I resond to them? no, but I do reserve the right to, seeing as you want them to participate in a discussion.

you look it up. it is there. you know it is , that is why you won't look(?)!

the bible filled with lies??? deut 18:20 is about a statment made by some that was not given them . it section is about spiritism.

whether it happens in our lifetime or not, the prophecies will be fullfilled. prophecies are not given dates, but there are signs to watch for. I have faith Jesus is coming back, after the tribulations. that is the reason the world is going down hill. if everything was fine there would be no reason for Him to come back.

God is patient, we are not. just one of our many flaws.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 16, 2014, 01:43:21 PM
it is about egypt, tyre is not mentioned in your post
Behold, I will bring upon Tyrus Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, a king of kings... Do you even read?

you don't label anyone and call me a racist? ??? LOL LOL prove I am a racist!
You judge a person by how they are born.

you are starting to get it. I do not blame your sone for his status, you (and your ex) are to blame
Yep, archaic laws mean you can insult someone who can't defend themselves. Marriage is a failed institution. I don't believe in it. Tell me how that decision will change my sons life? Pro tip you can't. It's called person choice so shut the hell up. I am not a deadbeat dad, I raise my son.

nope, you daid all are born homosexual.
Post please.

the flood was caused by rain 40 days and 40 nights.
Water isn't magically made. There isn't enough water on earth, under earth of in the air to flood the earth.
water was gathered from the rain on the ark. God gave the dimensions for everything to fit. food, water, etc....
And the math fails. It won't hold all the animals.

how long after the flood was the tower of babel built? some believe 102 yrs. a lot happens in 102 yrs
Yeah but not 8 people becoming 800, and not enough that in another hundred years for there to be nations. Again use simple math.
the pillars are buildings. picture an earthquake, what shakes ?
What shakes, it is two plates rubbing against each other. Nothing shakes, it's caused by friction.

no, 1 day to God is like a 1000 days and vice versa. it demonstrates His patience.
Yeah sure it does... It was bronze tech people explaining why there life was hell.

I didn't insult someone's child.
Yeah you kind of did.
I stated a fact to a parent.
Unprovoked and repeatedly.
a parent that chose to have a child out of wedlock.
And how does that affect you.
the same parent that is so desparate he brought his son and ex into a discussion
I was showing I wasn't embarased about my life.
and posted their comments on my posts. Did I resond to them? no, but I do reserve the right to, seeing as you want them to participate in a discussion.
Sure, but calling names is the only way you can debate, right.

you look it up. it is there. you know it is , that is why you won't look(?)!
A black child is also a N* but you don't call them that... Double standards.

the bible filled with lies??? deut 18:20 is about a statment made by some that was not given them . it section is about spiritism.

whether it happens in our lifetime or not, the prophecies will be fullfilled. prophecies are not given dates, but there are signs to watch for. I have faith Jesus is coming back, after the tribulations. that is the reason the world is going down hill. if everything was fine there would be no reason for Him to come back.
Going downhill. Dude we are no longer living in out own sewage and have plenty to eat. There are bad places but we are a lot better off than 200 years ago.

God is patient, we are not. just one of our many flaws.
God is none existant, we exist. It is one of our best qualities.
Oh and look you ignored all the post that prove your prophecy is flawed.... Also left the errors, because I am not a grammar nazi.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 16, 2014, 09:41:10 PM
Oh and fish, if you wish to debate follow the one commandment. THOU SHALL NOT USE LOGICAL FALLACIES.
Thinking of making a bingo card for any time you argue with me. Whoever gets all there card filled in should win a free soda
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Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: shadylane on June 17, 2014, 01:20:54 AM
Iraq is falling, Iran is in there, Syria is still killing their own people, afghanistan will fall right after we leave.

nobama was told there would be a vacuum in Iraq if we left too early! a cvacuum filled by terrorists.

how long before another attack here?

Guess it will be impossible to drag this post, back to the beginning.
But I'll try. The middle east has been at war since recorded history.
To say a biblical prophecy is being fulfilled based upon war in this part of the world is illogical.
Or a self full filling religious prophecy.
We will be attacked again by extreme conservative, religious fanatics.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 17, 2014, 01:39:50 AM
you are partly right shady. the middle east has been at war most of our lives, not all countries but some are more like the hatfields and mccoys.

the intensity and areas affected fit into the prophecies. the brutality and reasons also fit. today in Kenya 50 or so were killed while watching the world cup, because they weren't muslim

yesterday and today in Somalia, people were killed at their door if they were Christian or could not speak Somali, I believe they were of the al shabab terrorist group

I believe you are right, we will be attacked again by religious fanatics, conservative or otherwise. ISIS has already stated they will see us in NYC.

some people believe in end time events some don't. but what is going on now needs to be taken serious and not thought it can't affect us.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 17, 2014, 01:42:46 AM
Guess it will be impossible to drag this post, back to the beginning.
But I'll try. The middle east has been at war since recorded history.
To say a biblical prophecy is being fulfilled based upon war in this part of the world is illogical.
Or a self full filling religious prophecy.
We will be attacked again by extreme conservative, religious fanatics.
I agree, I tried to bring that up as well. Unfortunately it was easier for fish just to insult instead of actually debating it. 
you are partly right shady. the middle east has been at war most of our lives, not all countries but some are more like the hatfields and mccoys.

the intensity and areas affected fit into the prophecies. the brutality and reasons also fit. today in Kenya 50 or so were killed while watching the world cup, because they weren't muslim

yesterday and today in Somalia, people were killed at their door if they were Christian or could not speak Somali, I believe they were of the al shabab terrorist group

I believe you are right, we will be attacked again by religious fanatics, conservative or otherwise. ISIS has already stated they will see us in NYC.

some people believe in end time events some don't. but what is going on now needs to be taken serious and not thought it can't affect us.
Of course it can, and my end is that a limited war can not win a war on ideals. Either we try something else or we go roman style war and aim to win a war, not end a war.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 17, 2014, 01:53:33 AM
start another topic with your nonsense, ebilly.

the topic here is Biblical prophecy being fullfilled

I will only respond to comments concerning this topic
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 17, 2014, 02:09:50 AM
start another topic with your nonsense, ebilly.

the topic here is Biblical prophecy being fullfilled

I will only respond to comments concerning this topic
Reply to fish's comment, blocked.

Discuss how there are several failed prophecy... ignored.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 17, 2014, 03:39:34 AM
nothing is blocked!
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 17, 2014, 03:51:04 AM
nothing is blocked!
Then explain how the bible has so many failed prophecy's.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 17, 2014, 03:58:00 AM
which ones are failed?
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 17, 2014, 04:24:27 AM
which ones are failed?
Let's just start with Tyre would never be rebuilt. IT EXIST TODAY
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 17, 2014, 12:50:35 PM
Ezekiel 29:17–21

Nebuchadnezzar started the ruin, Alexander the Great finished the job.

Tyre lost it's wealth, power, and status. does it have the same standing today?

Amos 1:9-10:
This is what the Lord says: "For three sins of Tyre, even for four, I will not turn back [my wrath]. Because she sold whole communities of captives to Edom, disregarding a treaty of brotherhood, I will send fire upon the walls of Tyre that will consume her fortresses."

Ezekiel 28 fullfills the prohecy also.

compare ancient trye with modern tyre.  the buildings have been rebuilt, but it never regained what it had. the prophecy has been fullfilled.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 17, 2014, 01:56:01 PM
Ezekiel 29:17–21

Nebuchadnezzar started the ruin, Alexander the Great finished the job.

Tyre lost it's wealth, power, and status. does it have the same standing today?

Amos 1:9-10:
This is what the Lord says: "For three sins of Tyre, even for four, I will not turn back [my wrath]. Because she sold whole communities of captives to Edom, disregarding a treaty of brotherhood, I will send fire upon the walls of Tyre that will consume her fortresses."

Ezekiel 28 fullfills the prohecy also.

compare ancient trye with modern tyre.  the buildings have been rebuilt, but it never regained what it had. the prophecy has been fullfilled.
thou shalt be built no more
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Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 17, 2014, 04:02:36 PM
tyre never recovered from all the attacks (and an earthquake) and to this day is not the rich, prosperous, flourishing, world power as it was in Ezekiel’s day

tyre was never rebuilt and the prophecy was fullfilled
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fulfilled
Post by: shadylane on June 18, 2014, 01:36:26 AM
A Biblical prophecy being fulfilled ?
And, using the on going religious wars, in the Middle east as proof, of a religious prophecy being fulfilled.
That's bull shit.
We need to keep the conservative religious fanatics out of our politics.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 18, 2014, 01:45:56 AM
the wars and rumors of wars is being fulfilled. look all around the world, especially Africa and the middle east. these will lead up to the battle of Armageddon. whether you believe it or not. It may be in our lifetime or not, that just means all of the prophecies have not been fulfilled yet. how many hundreds of years before His birth, was Jesus coming fortold?

which are the religious fanatics in our politics? al shabab? al queda? muslim fundementalists ? al shabab has killed many in Somalia this week because they are not muslim or speak Somali.

you prefer nobama?????????????????
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: Lepard LLC on June 21, 2014, 10:46:58 PM
THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN WARS, GET A GRIP..

HERE'S YOUR BOY TELLING YOU, YOU ARE CRAZY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3qh-heyoFk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3qh-heyoFk)
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 22, 2014, 01:59:48 AM
Not like the ones raging now.it is where they are and who is involved that is important.

crazy about what? the age of the earth.?? the age of the earth is irrelevant to the topic  biblical prophesy being fulfilled!

the age of the earth is irrelevant period! how old the earth is doesn't matter because science can't prove how old it is(sarcasm)! LOL LOL
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 22, 2014, 05:05:18 AM
Not like the ones raging now.it is where they are and who is involved that is important.
It hasn't ever changed, it's just you are hearing about it because it effects us now. Iraq, Iran, S.A. and Israel have been fighting each other as long as Islam has existed.

crazy about what? the age of the earth.?? the age of the earth is irrelevant to the topic  biblical prophesy being fulfilled!
How about Egypt falling?Egypt has never been conquered by Babylon.

the age of the earth is irrelevant period! how old the earth is doesn't matter because science can't prove how old it is
Well to be fair our technology tells us the age, that and math, we don't even need science on this one.
(sarcasm)! LOL LOL
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: shadylane on June 22, 2014, 07:08:31 AM
Not like the ones raging now.it is where they are and who is involved that is important.

crazy about what? the age of the earth.?? the age of the earth is irrelevant to the topic  biblical prophesy being fulfilled!

the age of the earth is irrelevant period! how old the earth is doesn't matter because science can't prove how old it is(sarcasm)! LOL LOL

If the bible is wrong about how old the earth is,
How can you use it to prophesies the end of the world?
War in the middle east is normal.
If they ever make peace, then they have found a common enemy.
That will either be us or aliens from another planet.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: Lepard LLC on June 22, 2014, 07:44:19 AM
The bible is wrong about everything, you would have to be retarded to believe any of it..
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 22, 2014, 01:12:55 PM
The bible is wrong about everything, you would have to be retarded to believe any of it..
Actually the very first page of the bible was found last night. It all makes sense now
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
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Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 22, 2014, 04:04:52 PM
the wars themselves have gotten more intense and brutal, part of the advancements in technology. but many wars affect more than just the area they are being fought. the war in Syria alone affects many well away from their border.

Egypt has fallen. no one is really in control yet. there is no definitive Babylon as there was in the ot. many believe it will be rome. but because Egypt has not been conquered by Babylon ....yet, doesn't mean the prophecy has not been fulfilled.

our technology is man made. it is fallible. how many different answers have scientists given to the age of the earth?

the age of the earth is irrelevant
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 22, 2014, 04:07:18 PM
"The bible is wrong about everything, you would have to be retarded to believe any of it.." ?

a person would have to be a fool to believe the bible is wrong

what is the bible wrong about? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 22, 2014, 04:14:04 PM
shady

what age does the bible say the earth is ??

what date does the bible say the earth ends?
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: shadylane on June 23, 2014, 03:36:45 AM
shady

what age does the bible say the earth is ??

Most bible thumpers use the good book to prove,  every thing is around 7000 years old.


what date does the bible say the earth ends?

Your the biblical expert on that question. I don't know when it will end.
The Sun might burp and incinerate us or a some thing big might smash earth to pieces or out of it's orbit.
But I'm damn sure, that what's happening  in the Middle East doesn't mean shit on the astrological scale.
My biggest fear is conservative religious fanatics.
They can't destroy earth, but they can change the level of intelligent life on the planet.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 23, 2014, 01:24:42 PM
everything has a biginning and an end, except God.

I asked you what age does the bible says the earth is ??

I don't care how old the earth is. I don't know when the earth will end, but it will.

astrological scales?? LOL LOL LOL

Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 23, 2014, 01:35:23 PM
if the earth is around 7000 yrs old, how can fossils be older than that?  The bible doesn't give the age. some have tried to deduce it through the geneology of people in the bible, but that isn't accurate. that is why I don't believe the age of the earth is relevant.

The fact it will end one day is relevant. That fact shapes or should, our behaviors and actions. It won't end on it's own. God will see to that, and again Jesus will be the Savior that saves the world and all humanity from itself.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: shadylane on June 23, 2014, 03:32:38 PM
So, your saying God and Jesus will save the world, and all of humanity.
And they will do it by destroying it.

It's difficult debating with people who's logic is twisted by religion.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 23, 2014, 09:16:32 PM
show me where I said " God and Jesus will save the world, and all of humanity.And they will do it by destroying it."

They will save us from satan destroying it and all of mankind. God and Jesus are not going to destroy the earth . show me where God and Jesus will destroy the earth.

the antichrist will have people believe he is god, he will get nations to unite in the war of armegeddon. If it there is no intervention by Jesus, the world will be destroyed. This is the short version. The complete prophecy is  in the book of Reveleation in the nt and in daniel, in the ot. Isaiah, jeremiah, are good reads also.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 23, 2014, 11:50:43 PM
"The bible is wrong about everything, you would have to be retarded to believe any of it.." ?

a person would have to be a fool to believe the bible is wrong

what is the bible wrong about? ??? ??? ???
No that is not how we play the game, name one thing the bible has right.
See no mater what I point out you will say that I am wrong because the bible, but I live in a place called reality... It's nice this time of year.
Unlike bullshit mountain (John Steward, 2008) We can't stick our head in the "Mud" when our world is changed by the real world.
SO WHAT HAS THE BIBLE GOT RIGHT.

Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 23, 2014, 11:55:49 PM
everything has a biginning and an end, except God.

I asked you what age does the bible says the earth is ??

I don't care how old the earth is. I don't know when the earth will end, but it will.


astrological scales?? LOL LOL LOL
This is Special pleading. Everyone else has a beginning but your god does not require it, thus it is not a argument Marked our.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 24, 2014, 02:51:03 AM
those posts were responses  to rick and shady. are you answering for everyone again?

I again asked shady a question , not you.

your example of a prophecy unfulfilled was tyre. that was proven wrong

the prophecy of Jesus being born, died, and resurrected has been fulfilled, whether you believe it or not.

the topic is bible prophecy being fulfilled.


Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 24, 2014, 06:08:29 PM
those posts were responses  to rick and shady. are you answering for everyone again?
Actually I stated that the arguement didn't exist because it is not logical.

I again asked shady a question , not you.

your example of a prophecy unfulfilled was tyre. that was proven wrong
No you moved the goalpost. Tyre does exist, but now you state oh not to it's former glory. No where in that verse does it say former glory... Now what about the other ones. How about the Egypt one?

the prophecy of Jesus being born, died, and resurrected has been fulfilled, whether you believe it or not.
Circular reasoning, you are using the bible to prove Jesus's prophesies are true to prove that the bible is true.
the topic is bible prophecy being fulfilled.
And you have yet to prove a single one has happened.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 24, 2014, 09:05:06 PM
those were not Jesus' prophecies. ever hear of John the baptist? read coyote's post.

you said once you are a mechanic. ever rebuild an engine or repair a badly dameged vehicle. it is never exactly the same. same with tyre. it never regained the status it had after it was conquered. it was not rebuilt and does not exist to day as it did in before.

the prophecy has been fullfilled!
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 24, 2014, 09:49:00 PM
those were not Jesus' prophecies. ever hear of John the baptist? read coyote's post.

you said once you are a mechanic. ever rebuild an engine or repair a badly dameged vehicle. it is never exactly the same. same with tyre. it never regained the status it had after it was conquered. it was not rebuilt and does not exist to day as it did in before.

the prophecy has been fullfilled!
And if I fix a car so that it runs, even if it has problems I don't say I can't fix it.
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Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 25, 2014, 02:02:28 AM
but it isn't the same as it was. what other prophecy has failed?
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: shadylane on June 25, 2014, 03:27:50 AM
This question is for Mr. Fish
What  "Biblical prophecy" is being fulfilled?
Will earth and all it's inhabitant's, survive this prophecy?
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 25, 2014, 02:09:43 PM
the frequency of earthquakes, floods, tornados, the drought out west, wild fires. we have always had these, but there are more occurring and higher intensity.

diseases. we got ebola making a comeback, mers. these are not simple cases . they act quickly and if not treated quickly the person dies.

the rampant invasion of illegals, the state of our country. the US is not a world leader, is not respected and is not economically solvent. The military is being ruined now.

the moral decay continues to increase.

The earth and it's inhabitants will survive only because of Jesus' intervention.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 25, 2014, 04:47:49 PM
the frequency of earthquakes, floods, tornados, the drought out west, wild fires. we have always had these, but there are more occurring and higher intensity.
Bad weather increasing, now is it a prophecy or humans pumping millions of tons of Green house gasses into the air... Like science said would happen. Earthquaukes for the last 20 years is about average. It is true we have had some strong ones but the plates move, nothing uncommon.

diseases. we got ebola making a comeback, mers. these are not simple cases . they act quickly and if not treated quickly the person dies.
If Jesus had been alive today he would have considered the world Disease free. So we have a few cases of ebola we have to remember that the killers of the old world are dead. (Small pox, dissenter.)

the rampant invasion of illegals, the state of our country. the US is not a world leader, is not respected and is not economically solvent. The military is being ruined now.
Not important, America is not relevant to the bible world. America is no where in the bible.

the moral decay continues to increase.
Moral decay. We ended slavery, child rape, child abuse, Child labor. I guess is was better in the old days when we could stone homosexuals. I guess we should run off inter-racial couples as well.

The earth and it's inhabitants will survive only because of Jesus' intervention.
We will survive or die by our own works.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 25, 2014, 11:51:31 PM
Oklahoma has been shaking pretty good this year. a lot of states are shaking that usually don't. fracking can be part of it in the areas near where it is going on, but the frequency and locations can't be dismissed .

If a frog could fly , it wouldn't bump it's ass when jumping. If's are nonsense. it wasn't disease free when He was on earth. it wasn't just a few cases of ebola. a great book to read is "the hot zone". measles and mumps got a lot of people sick last winter. if smallpox is dead why does the military still get vaccinated for it , typhoid, cholera, yellow fever?

It is interesting that America isn't mentioned by name in the bible, but that can't be construed as the US having no role in bible prophecy or in the end times

child rape child abuse has been ended? LOL LOL watch the evening news. homosexuality degrades morality. ask some in the military how ell they like dadt being repealed. a lot I work with don't like it.

we cannot control everything that will help us live or kill us. if that was true, crime victims would be nonexistent, sickness and diseases would not be.

the topic is Biblical prophecy being fulfilled, what prophecy has failed
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 26, 2014, 12:45:52 AM
Oklahoma has been shaking pretty good this year. a lot of states are shaking that usually don't. fracking can be part of it in the areas near where it is going on, but the frequency and locations can't be dismissed .
You are correct that we are having more earthquakes where there are people, however it is because we are having fewer the ocean. It total the amount of earthquakes are statistically the same.

If a frog could fly , it wouldn't bump it's ass when jumping. If's are nonsense. it wasn't disease free when He was on earth.
Exactly, if you were poor you didn't have a high survival rate. Jesus raising from the dead wasn't nearly as Amazing as the fact that he lived to be 33
it wasn't just a few cases of ebola. a great book to read is "the hot zone". measles and mumps got a lot of people sick last winter. if smallpox is dead why does the military still get vaccinated for it
We have viruses stored in cold storage. While for all practical reasons it is dead it could be brought back. It no longer exist in the wild.
typhoid, cholera, yellow fever?

It is interesting that America isn't mentioned by name in the bible, but that can't be construed as the US having no role in bible prophecy or in the end times
Special pleading. You are adding things to the Prophecy because you want america to be important.

child rape child abuse has been ended?
No but something is done about it now, unlike 50 years ago when you could beat your child black and blue and no-one would care.
LOL LOL watch the evening news. homosexuality degrades morality. ask some in the military how ell they like dadt being repealed. a lot I work with don't like it.
And there are several who applaud it.

we cannot control everything that will help us live or kill us. if that was true, crime victims would be nonexistent, sickness and diseases would not be.

the topic is Biblical prophecy being fulfilled, what prophecy has failed
How about the others I gave. In Ezekiel 30:10 (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible/Ezekiel#Ezekiel_30:10)-11 This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will put an end to the hordes of Egypt by the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. He and his army—the most ruthless of nations— will be brought in to destroy the land. They will draw their swords against Egypt and fill the land with the slain. (NIV)Egypt has never fell
Please explain this away... (And the dance continues.)
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: shadylane on June 26, 2014, 01:27:54 AM
the frequency of earthquakes, floods, tornados, the drought out west, wild fires. we have always had these, but there are more occurring and higher intensity.

diseases. we got ebola making a comeback, mers. these are not simple cases . they act quickly and if not treated quickly the person dies.

the rampant invasion of illegals, the state of our country. the US is not a world leader, is not respected and is not economically solvent. The military is being ruined now.

the moral decay continues to increase.

The earth and it's inhabitants will survive only because of Jesus' intervention.

So your saying if things are going bad, then every one should follow your advice.
That would explain the terrible out look you have on life.
It's about the control you want but can't have.

I think life on Earth is going pretty good.
No major wars.
No asteroids or volcano's causing massive climate change.
No plaques of biblical proportion.
The standard and quality of life is on the rise.

The only places that are really F#@ked up
Are the ones that have a religious problem.

Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 26, 2014, 02:09:00 AM
that earthquake in Alaska wasn't in a highly populated  area neither were many of the others in the US in recent months. Oklahoma has had more earthquakes this year than California. but they are increasing worldwide.

Jesus living to 33 is more amazing than His resurrection???? His resurrection fulfilled the prophecy. His age at death is irrelevant

you are the one bringing America to the discussion, I simply stated " It is interesting that America isn't mentioned by name in the bible, but that can't be construed as the US having no role in bible prophecy or in the end times".

you stated child rape and child abuse was ended and now you say it hasn't? LOL LOL proof 50 yrs a child could be beaten black and blue and no one would care! how does any of that fulfill bible prophecy? the depravity against children is getting worse. read what is happening to some of the girls coming across the border now!

the ones applauding abnormal lifestyles is part of things that have to happen
depravity will increase, For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
 –2 Timothy 4:3-4

Continue to read ez 30:20-26 Egypt fell
Egypt fell and never recovered, just like tyre.  I have spent time there. it is a poor country. their biggest industry is tourism, not too much of that now.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 26, 2014, 02:21:30 AM
I have a great outlook on life! everyday we are getting closer to Jesus coming to set up God's kingdom! the cares of the world will vanish, no sickness, wars, just peace. Who wouldn't like that.

control I can't have ??? ??LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

life on earth is pretty good??LOL LOL LOL how good is safe travel abroad? how is life in the middle east, mexico, south America??

how is the economy here? everyone is working, the government is solvent??? crime? go and walk around Chicago!

no major wars? I guess the wars of Syria, Afghanistan, iran, Iraq, with turkey getting involved isn't a major war? ??? ??? ? those kids getting kidnapped by boko haram will disagree with you

the standard and quality of life is on the rise???LOL LOL LOL LOL how many people have given up trying to find a job and are no longer counted in the unemployment rate? 92 million. record numbers on welfare and disability.
this is a rising standard of living? and that is just here in the US. what about worldwide? what about those refugees fleeing their homes where wars are being waged, their life is getting better? If things were so good in mexico, central and south America, why are we being flooded with illegal immigrants here?
better get a grip on reality Pollyanna. it will get worse.

I don't like it, but these things have to happen to pave the way for Jesus to come back and set up God's kingdom on earth.

these events are fulfilling bible prophecy, whether you like it or not, or believe it or not.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 26, 2014, 03:10:12 AM
that earthquake in Alaska wasn't in a highly populated  area neither were many of the others in the US in recent months. Oklahoma has had more earthquakes this year than California. but they are increasing worldwide.
It may seem like it, but they really haven't.

Jesus living to 33 is more amazing than His resurrection? ??? His resurrection fulfilled the prophecy. His age at death is irrelevant
Ok 2 things here. First Disease killed of a higher percentage of people in the past then today. Disease, as it was in the first century, no longer exist. Second again you are using the bible to prove the bible. Thus it is circular reasoning. Will not debate non-issues.

you are the one bringing America to the discussion, I simply stated " It is interesting that America isn't mentioned by name in the bible, but that can't be construed as the US having no role in bible prophecy or in the end times".
It can and does, The bible does not state america, america is not stated in prophesy. Logic again can be your friend.

you stated child rape and child abuse was ended and now you say it hasn't?
Slavery is outlawed as well but it happens. I thought you knew I meant it was now illegal.
LOL LOL proof 50 yrs a child could be beaten black and blue and no one would care!
Are you telling me that 50 years ago Family services were as strenuous as it is now?
how does any of that fulfill bible prophecy?
You brought up morality, now are afraid of the answers.
the depravity against children is getting worse. read what is happening to some of the girls coming across the border now!
Non Sequester, You bring one issue where it is bad and state that it proves your point.

the ones applauding abnormal lifestyles is part of things that have to happen
only according to a Vocal minority.
depravity will increase, For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
 –2 Timothy 4:3-4
Again circular argument. You are getting good at them.

Continue to read ez 30:20-26 Egypt fell
Egypt fell and never recovered, just like tyre.
Oh in what year did Nebacanizer conquer Egypt. Weird I though Rome still considered Egypt a individual nation and even had Mark Anthony try to gain Cleopatra favor to go after the murderers of Caesar. 
Quote from: fish ink=topic=31798.msg277519#msg277519 date=1403748540
  I have spent time there. it is a poor country. their biggest industry is tourism, not too much of that now.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 26, 2014, 01:01:49 PM
although it is a pagan ritual,why is easter celebrated? His resurrection is a historical fact and fullfilled the prophecy.

diseases are still here. they have not gone away. what do they have to do with Jesus living to 33? nothing. His death fulfilled a prophecy.

you repeated what I said, except you can't rule out the role the US may play in end times prophecy.
"It can and does, The bible does not state america, america is not stated in prophesy."

you said child rape and child abuse has been ended. you are wrong.

keep the whole statement complete. your separating parts of a sentence loses all meaning.

nope, stating facts ;this is going on now and getting worse.For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
 –2 Timothy 4:3-4

the year is irrelevant
Continue to read ez 30:20-26 Egypt fell
can't find any prophecies that failed? thought so.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 26, 2014, 07:58:28 PM
although it is a pagan ritual,why is easter celebrated
Because children love candy and Adults like watching kids find eggs.
? His resurrection is a historical fact and fullfilled the prophecy.
So holidays equal fact's now. Why do we celebrate all Hollow Eve? Or for that mater St Patrick day? 

diseases are still here. they have not gone away.
But they have become survivable. We are not as in bad a shape as we were when the prophecy of jesus returned was made. If this is the birthing pains why do they feel a lot less severe then before the impregnation?
what do they have to do with Jesus living to 33? nothing. His death fulfilled a prophecy.
You can't use circular arguments. Unless you can prove Jesus died and came back from the grave without the bible it is a circular argument... Will not be debated.

you repeated what I said, except you can't rule out the role the US may play in end times prophecy.
"It can and does, The bible does not state america, america is not stated in prophesy."
Sure I can, it's not even mentioned. Unless you mean you can pick and chose prophecy like a Chinese Buffet.

you said child rape and child abuse has been ended. you are wrong.
I said that it is illegal now. It was not in the past.

keep the whole statement complete. your separating parts of a sentence loses all meaning.
You won't even quote and you talk to me about losing meaning. See I don't even know which part you are talking about.

nope, stating facts ;this is going on now and getting worse.For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
 –2 Timothy 4:3-4
Ah so the bible predicted that people would find out the bible isn't true. Well you found one prophecy that came true.

the year is irrelevant
Continue to read ez 30:20-26 Egypt fell
can't find any prophecies that failed? thought so.
Yeah read it and it never happened. While Egypt has had hard times it has never not been a nation, and never conquered by Babylon. I can walk the streets of Egypt and find people who can trace there family all the way back to the old kingdom.
If being destroyed just means they won't be strong anymore one could say the same about any empire.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 27, 2014, 12:48:19 AM
what is the reason for the Easter celebration?

the birth pangs haven't started, you will know when they do.

you said child rape and child abuse(and child labor) was ended;
"Moral decay. We ended slavery, child rape, child abuse, Child labor. I guess is was better in the old days when we could stone homosexuals. I guess we should run off inter-racial couples as well. "

you can choose to disagree Jesus was resurrected, that doesn't change the fact He was! the prophecy was fulfilled.

can't follow? then reread the posts. I don't need to quote.

read it again;  FOR THE TIME WILL WHEN THEY WILL NOT ENDURE SOUND DOCTRINE, But after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; AND THEY SHALL TURN AWAY THEIR EARS FROM THE TRUTH, and shall be turned unto fables.”
 –2 Timothy 4:3-4
the people did not find the bible to be untrue! this is also happening now, another prophecy being fulfilled!

the most common strain of ebola is not survivable, mers if not treated promptly is not survivable.

Egypt has never been a nation? It is a nation state a mixture of both, an irrelevant point. But it was conquered by Nebuchadnezzar, the Babylonian king. the prophecy was fulfilled.

people from other countries, including the USA can trace their roots back to the old kingdom, what's your point?

you still have not cited a prophecy that failed. there are many yet to be fulfilled.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 27, 2014, 02:21:32 AM
what is the reason for the Easter celebration?
More people would say it has to do with the Easter bunny hiding eggs then the resurrection of Jesus. I mean we could just call it spring day if we wanted and nothing of value would be lost.   

the birth pangs haven't started, you will know when they do.
If a child takes that long to be born you might just have a stillborn.

you said child rape and child abuse(and child labor) was ended;
And I clarified that I meant legally they are abolished.
"Moral decay. We ended slavery, child rape, child abuse, Child labor. I guess is was better in the old days when we could stone homosexuals. I guess we should run off inter-racial couples as well. "

you can choose to disagree Jesus was resurrected, that doesn't change the fact He was! the prophecy was fulfilled.
I do disagre because there is no evidence for it. You can't use the bible to prove the bible. It is circular argument.

can't follow? then reread the posts. I don't need to quote.
Trust me, you really do. I have no idea what you are talking about.

read it again;  FOR THE TIME WILL WHEN THEY WILL NOT ENDURE SOUND DOCTRINE, But after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; AND THEY SHALL TURN AWAY THEIR EARS FROM THE TRUTH, and shall be turned unto fables.”
 –2 Timothy 4:3-4
the people did not find the bible to be untrue! this is also happening now, another prophecy being fulfilled!
Read it however you want, No one with any kind of higher learning believes the bible to be accurate to any degree beyond a statistical abnormality. There are a few, bit in all honesty it is less then one percent.

the most common strain of ebola is not survivable, mers if not treated promptly is not survivable.
Yet they can be treated. How many people die of Leprosy ever year... Whats that zero?

Egypt has never been a nation?
Never not been a nation. It has always been a nation, and never stopped being it's own nation.
It is a nation state a mixture of both, an irrelevant point. But it was conquered by Nebuchadnezzar, the Babylonian king. the prophecy was fulfilled.
I want citation. No where in history has that ever been the case. I want a exact date when Babylon defeated Egypt.

people from other countries, including the USA can trace their roots back to the old kingdom, what's your point?
That the nations people has not been scattered.

you still have not cited a prophecy that failed. there are many yet to be fulfilled.
I have named three, and while I enjoyed the acrobatics you have done, they still fail.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 27, 2014, 03:03:40 AM
the birth pangs in the bible are an analogy

leprosy deaths per year? they are rare but still occur. Leprosy is not an immediate cause of death, but the prolonged affects of leprosy can lead to death. Those with the disease have a 4x higher chance of death than the general population. the disease has not been stamped out.

Egypt is a nation state. that status past or present is irrelevant to the fact it fell by the Nebuchadnezzar, the Babylonian king

you want an exact date??? LOL LOL LOL look it up! the date is irrelevant to the fact it fell by the Nebuchadnezzar, the Babylonian king

the topic is Biblical prophecy being fulfilled. your examples have been proven to be fullfilled. no acrobatics, just truth.  you can believe it or not
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 27, 2014, 10:31:23 PM
the birth pangs in the bible are an analogy
to what. You make a lot of claims but fail to back them up.

leprosy deaths per year?
one in a million people or less then 1 percent of 1 percent. 
they are rare but still occur. Leprosy is not an immediate cause of death, but the prolonged affects of leprosy can lead to death. Those with the disease have a 4x higher chance of death than the general population. the disease has not been stamped out.
The point is that it isn't the threat that it used to be. The prediction is that disease would increase and yet it has decreased. 

Egypt is a nation state. that status past or present is irrelevant to the fact it fell by the Nebuchadnezzar, the Babylonian king
Except he didn't. I asked for a date because I knew what you were claiming, Yes Nebby did defeat Egypt, but it was before the Prophecy. He never did it again. Also the nation did not fall, but instead slaves were taken and gold, but the nation was allowed to rebuild.

you want an exact date??? LOL LOL LOL look it up! the date is irrelevant to the fact it fell by the Nebuchadnezzar, the Babylonian king

the topic is Biblical prophecy being fulfilled. your examples have been proven to be fullfilled. no acrobatics, just truth.  you can believe it or not
And you continue to do mental acrobats, you refuse to show any evidence for your claim and change the goal of the prophecy. When it says it will never be rebuilt, it does not mean that it will be rebuilt, and when it says Nebby must conquer Egypt, he must conquer egypt. And when Jesus tells the Disciples that he will return in a generation... Yep you guessed it. Next one you missed... You are so far 0 for 3 but I have faith in you.

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Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 28, 2014, 02:12:53 AM
do you know what birth pangs are? ask the mother of your son, she can explain it.

still deaths and the ebola virus is spreading in Africa.

it was prophesized it would fall, how and who is unimportant. the fact is Egypt fell and like tyre never regained it's greatness

the generation that is present during the end times is the one that will see Jesus

nope , everyone of the prophecies you named have been fulfilled. the evidence is in the books of the bible and documented history.

try again!
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 29, 2014, 12:42:57 AM
do you know what birth pangs are? ask the mother of your son, she can explain it.
I know that the birth pangs are supposed to hurt, and yet in almost all standards we are doing better this century (We as in humans) then ever before.

still deaths and the ebola virus is spreading in Africa.
And Africa is the entire world.

it was prophesized it would fall, how and who is unimportant.
It said it would fall to Nebby, didn't fall till one thousand years later. That is important.
the fact is Egypt fell and like tyre never regained it's greatness
It didn't fall by nebby and was rebuilt. This is just sad.

the generation that is present during the end times is the one that will see Jesus
Where does it say that. He was talking to the disciples, Prove he was talking about a exact generation. 

nope , everyone of the prophecies you named have been fulfilled. the evidence is in the books of the bible and documented history.

try again!
If you just make it fit. If these were not in your holy book you would call bs on these.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 29, 2014, 02:46:28 AM
it depends how you look at it. crime is higher now than. the economy is worse than under carter. education is not as good as once was. technology is better. so yes and no on we as humans doing better.

there is a fear that all the illegals flooding the border will transmit diseases here. I hope not but they are coming from 3rd world countries and it is a good chance it could happen

stay in the rut if you choose. the prophecy was fulfilled. you can believe it or not, but the prophecy was still fulfilled

Jesus was talking about the end times, the end does not have a date. He told the disciples that also. That is why it is logical to believe the generation that is present when the end time events start will be the generation that will see Jesus.

I stated truth that you can try but not refute. the bible is a historical record. many books in the bible prove the prophecies were fullfiulled. you can believe them or not. but that does not change the fact the prophecies you posted as failed , were in fact fulfilled.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: Racer on June 29, 2014, 04:05:52 AM
it depends how you look at it. crime is higher now than. the economy is worse than under carter. education is not as good as once was. technology is better. so yes and no on we as humans doing better.

there is a fear that all the illegals flooding the border will transmit diseases here. I hope not but they are coming from 3rd world countries and it is a good chance it could happen

stay in the rut if you choose. the prophecy was fulfilled. you can believe it or not, but the prophecy was still fulfilled

Jesus was talking about the end times, the end does not have a date. He told the disciples that also. That is why it is logical to believe the generation that is present when the end time events start will be the generation that will see Jesus.

I stated truth that you can try but not refute. the bible is a historical record. many books in the bible prove the prophecies were fullfiulled. you can believe them or not. but that does not change the fact the prophecies you posted as failed , were in fact fulfilled.




You have no idea or fact that education is not as good as the past.  You speak of things you have no experience in or knowledge.

Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 29, 2014, 04:41:04 AM
it depends how you look at it. crime is higher now than.
Then during the Roman empire. Are you really making this claim.
the economy is worse than under carter.
Again America is the world. It doesn't even mater if it is or isn't. Were the poor beter off under Caesar or Obama. Well as we are not feeding them to lions, I think we have our answer. 
education is not as good as once was.
Education is a lot beter then it used to be. It's just america is falling behind because Gud dun it is getting in the way.
technology is better. so yes and no on we as humans doing better.

there is a fear that all the illegals flooding the border will transmit diseases here
Fear from the uneducated racist on Faux that spread lies.
. I hope not but they are coming from 3rd world countries and it is a good chance it could happen
This ignorance still exist.  ^^^%%%

stay in the rut if you choose. the prophecy was fulfilled
Not perfectly.
. you can believe it or not, but the prophecy was still fulfilled
And if it isn't. If a million years. A billion years happens and still nothing happens. How long is too long to wait.
Jesus was talking about the end times, the end does not have a date. He told the disciples that also. That is why it is logical to believe the generation that is present when the end time events start will be the generation that will see Jesus.
Because it is a stupid thing to say. Oh the end times will come and the generation that sees the end times will see the end times??? that makes no sense.

I stated truth that you can try but not refute
Actually I did, you refuse to accept it. I have shown that Tyre still exist, and the egypt was never conquered by Babylon. YOu have no counter evidence. I win.
. the bible is a historical record. many books in the bible prove the prophecies were fullfiulled.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT A CIRCULAR ARGUMENT IS?
you can believe them or not. but that does not change the fact the prophecies you posted as failed , were in fact fulfilled.
only by changing what the prophecy is.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 29, 2014, 02:52:57 PM
just your unproven opinion racer.

the books of the bible are truth.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 29, 2014, 03:07:13 PM
what were the statistics of crime back then?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/diseases_are_crossing_the_border_too.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/diseases_are_crossing_the_border_too.html)

we have a lot more poor now in America under nobama then before him.

education has been degraded greatly in just the last few yrs. many schools have closed. the quality has dropped. California took a step in the right direction getting rid of tenure, other states will follow suit.

no , the generation that is there(could be us) when things hit the fan, will be the one to see Jesus' return.

again, Egypt and tyre are not the great cities they once were, they were not rebuilt. split hairs all you want, it doesn't change the fact the prophecies were fulfilled. the prophecies were not changed.

the bible does not prove the bible. the books by all the different authors(witnesses) prove the prophecies were fulfilled and state prophecies still to come.

are you unable to find any failed prophecies? you dwell on Egypt and tyre. prophecies were filled. Even history books prove it.

Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 29, 2014, 03:21:27 PM
timeless prophecy fulfilled and unchangeable

John  3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: Racer on June 29, 2014, 05:34:25 PM
just your unproven opinion racer.

the books of the bible are truth.






It's just your unproven opinion also.

Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 29, 2014, 05:51:22 PM
what were the statistics of crime back then?
See that's the fun thing, you made the claim (Roman empire had less crime then america does now) and I asked you to clarify. If  that is your claim... Back it up. It is up to the one that makes the claim to back it up. I am not denying it, for that would be a claim. I am asking that you provide proof for your claim. If you can not I can throw it out. 

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/diseases_are_crossing_the_border_too.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/diseases_are_crossing_the_border_too.html)

we have a lot more poor now in America under nobama then before him.
Not important. Do we have more then before the middle ages. (The time of the lowest economy) If not your claim is not worth anything.

education has been degraded greatly in just the last few yrs. many schools have closed
Yes, and restructered. But that is only in america. There are a lot of nations with a working school system.
. the quality has dropped. California took a step in the right direction getting rid of tenure, other states will follow suit.
America is not the world.

no , the generation that is there(could be us) when things hit the fan, will be the one to see Jesus' return.
This is bull reasoning, show the verses  that say that?

again, Egypt and tyre are not the great cities they once were, they were not rebuilt. split hairs all you want,
I will, if a prophecy is true it is 100% real. It is not 100% accurate so you fail.
it doesn't change the fact the prophecies were fulfilled. the prophecies were not changed.

the bible does not prove the bible. the books by all the different authors(witnesses) prove the prophecies were fulfilled and state prophecies still to come.
And those books are collected in the bible. The bible can not prove the bible. Is this to hard to understand. If the bible was accurate there would be outside sources, but there is not one.

are you unable to find any failed prophecies? you dwell on Egypt and tyre. prophecies were filled. Even history books prove it.
Another claim. I want the history book that proves it. (I know you can't provide one) how about a non biblical source? You can't can you.


Circular arguments are not allowed in debates. I claim victory as you have been told this repeatedly.
Order of the Phoenix... And neither shall live while one survives, and in the Deathly Hollows Harry kills Voldemort. Prophecy fulfilled.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 29, 2014, 10:26:56 PM
nope, history proves Jesus' existence racer. the rest, if you are around you will see the prophecy fulfilled. if not a future generation will see it fullfilled
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 29, 2014, 11:07:29 PM
show me the post where I claimed the Roman empire had less crime then America does now. I didn't. I made a generalization that crime in the world is higher now than back then. easy to prove.

prove the economy of the middle ages was lower than today. is that world wide or regional. you are the one adding more that you have not providing facts for.

where do many college students go to get a higher education? especially drs? here. we already know where the illegals go to get their education.
how are the schools in the middle east? they were better when we were there but some have backslid and girls are not allowed to got to school in many areas that are muslim

Egypt and tyre have not regained their status, despite buildings being rebuilt. there is more to a city than buildings. the prophecy has been fulfilled. you can believe it or not.

that is why you need to study the books to understand what is said. Jesus was talking about the end times and things to happen in the FUTURE that would signal His return.
Matt 24:34-"Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

Jesus was speaking of the future, not the present. A date has never been given when He will comes back. Only God knows the date.

the bible does not prove the bible. the BOOKS of the bible prove the prophecies.

There are many historical accounts outside the bible that prove the prophecies and events that occurred in the bible. Are you still taking college courses? try western civilization I&ll, world history for starters.

you can claim all you want. doesn't make it true. I would think a college student would easily find the answers to your questions. or is it you know I am right?

the bible is a history book. but there are many history books that collaborate biblical events. look them up!

the topic is Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
have you run out of prophecies that you say have failed, but have been proven fulfilled. try a new one.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 30, 2014, 02:40:29 AM
show me the post where I claimed the Roman empire had less crime then America does now. I didn't. I made a generalization that crime in the world is higher now than back then. easy to prove.
When is then. I took it from the text you meant the time of the prophecy, (Which is really the only point that made sense) So there you go.

prove the economy of the middle ages was lower than today. is that world wide or regional. you are the one adding more that you have not providing facts for.
You stated the economy is a sign of the end times, but there have been times that the economy has been a lot worse.

where do many college students go to get a higher education? especially drs? here. we already know where the illegals go to get their education.
This does not follow. You are adding a tangent.
how are the schools in the middle east? they were better when we were there but some have backslid and girls are not allowed to got to school in many areas that are muslim
Another tangent. We are talking world wide, not individual nations.

Egypt and tyre have not regained their status,
But they exist. (And egypt never fell to nebby)
despite buildings being rebuilt. there is more to a city than buildings. the prophecy has been fulfilled. you can believe it or not.
I don't
that is why you need to study the books to understand what is said. Jesus was talking about the end times and things to happen in the FUTURE that would signal His return.
Matt 24:34-"Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.
And he was talking to the disciples.

Jesus was speaking of the future, not the present
Prove it. Stop adding to the bible.
. A date has never been given when He will comes back. Only God knows the date.
I put 200 on never.

the bible does not prove the bible. the BOOKS of the bible prove the prophecies.
The bible does not prove the bible but part of the bible that prove the prophecy also prove the bible. THIS ARGUMENT IS LOST.

There are many historical accounts outside the bible that prove the prophecies and events that occurred in the bible. Are you still taking college courses? try western civilization I&ll, world history for starters.
No prove it to me, show me one historical proof.

you can claim all you want
I am arguing against your claim. I have yet to make my claim.
. doesn't make it true. I would think a college student would easily find the answers to your questions. or is it you know I am right?
You can't prove it then.

the bible is a history book. but there are many history books that collaborate biblical events. look them up!
Cite your claim.

the topic is Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
And you keep failing.
have you run out of prophecies that you say have failed, but have been proven fulfilled. try a new one.
So far you have lost 3 but heck lets add a fourth one. In[/size] [/size]Exodus 23:27 (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible/Exodus#Exodus_23:27)[/size] [/size]God tells Moses that he will defeat every enemy he encounters:[/size]I will send my terror ahead of you and throw into confusion every nation you encounter. I will make all your enemies turn their backs and run. (NIV)[/size]INB4 no true Scotsman
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: Racer on June 30, 2014, 04:47:33 AM
nope, history proves Jesus' existence racer. the rest, if you are around you will see the prophecy fulfilled. if not a future generation will see it fullfilled




My comment was only about education, not directed about Jesus and his existence.  I believe he walked this earth as our savior so that's one area you need not explain to me.

Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 30, 2014, 12:45:04 PM
can't show the post???

the middle east isn't individual nations, part of the world, but go ahead and include africa, how are their schools

do you know how to read? read a history book.

I have repeatedly proven those prophecies fullfilled with books of the bible and websites on articles outside the bible.

still can't come up with any more "failed" prophecies?
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 30, 2014, 12:48:20 PM
what is the rate of hs grads literacy level racer? it is not as high as it used to be. common core is being refused by several states. world wide, I don't see improvements in education in the 3rd world countries. where it is good , it has been good, Japan, europe...etc. in this country, the kids are not as prepared as out parents or grandparents were when they graduated, in general.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: Racer on June 30, 2014, 02:46:45 PM
what is the rate of hs grads literacy level racer? it is not as high as it used to be. common core is being refused by several states. world wide, I don't see improvements in education in the 3rd world countries. where it is good , it has been good, Japan, europe...etc. in this country, the kids are not as prepared as out parents or grandparents were when they graduated, in general.






Common Core has not been around long enough to really evaluate properly.  No Child Left Behind by your beloved GB, is a different story.  Place any blame where it belongs, NCLB.  By the way, go through Wal Mart during the day and see how many parents have their kids out of school.  Hard to teach them when their not there.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on June 30, 2014, 03:59:33 PM
can't show the post???
it depends how you look at it. crime is higher now than. the economy is worse than under carter. education is not as good as once was. technology is better. so yes and no on we as humans doing better.there is a fear that all the illegals flooding the border will transmit diseases here. I hope not but they are coming from 3rd world countries and it is a good chance it could happenstay in the rut if you choose. the prophecy was fulfilled. you can believe it or not, but the prophecy was still fulfilledJesus was talking about the end times, the end does not have a date. He told the disciples that also. That is why it is logical to believe the generation that is present when the end time events start will be the generation that will see Jesus.I stated truth that you can try but not refute. the bible is a historical record. many books in the bible prove the prophecies were fullfiulled. you can believe them or not. but that does not change the fact the prophecies you posted as failed , were in fact fulfilled.

the middle east isn't individual nations, part of the world, but go ahead and include africa, how are their schools
You want to know what is sad, Under NCLB IRAQ Students had a higher average iq then america. Same for Brazil, Leabonon, Mexico and so many more. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Education/Average-IQ
Unlike you I provide my sources.

do you know how to read? read a history book.
Not in there. Egypt never got conqured by Babylon, never been unlived in for 40 years. DO YOU KNOW HOW TO READ?

I have repeatedly proven those prophecies fullfilled with books of the bible and websites on articles outside the bible.
What I have yet to see a legitament website. I mean you have the problem with desiase, I give you that... However it does not prove your prophecy any.

still can't come up with any more "failed" prophecies?
I can come up with as many as you want. So far it's 4 failed and 0 wins. How about Jesus then... I think so. [/size]Matthew 1:22 (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Annotated_Bible/Matthew#Matthew_1:22)[/size]-23 :Another failed prophecy... It's funny actually.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 30, 2014, 04:39:02 PM
common core has been around long enough for several states to say no to it. other states have adopted it or are reviewing it.

nclb was passed with a large bipatisan vote, can't blame it all on W. ted kennedy was a sponsor of it also.

requiring teachers to be better qualified is not a problem, underfunding the program is the major problem. It is going to take a while to undo a poor education system that has been in place for decades. charter schools are a step in the right direction.

that is on the parents if their kids aren't in school. but home schooling is on the increase also

the schools themselves are in a predictament where some areas have a lot of kids and others not far away have fewer kids. the schools are not full and it adds to the costs of education if efficiencies are not used in getting the most use out of a school building. many have been neglected and badly need repairs. these compound the education mess. it will take yrs to fix it.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on June 30, 2014, 04:49:43 PM
does the post mention the roman empire? show me the post where I claimed the Roman empire had less crime then America does now. you can't because I didn't say it

old sources. nothing has changed since 2002?

egypt was conquered, the prophecy was fullfilled, you can believe it or not, it doesn't change the fact egypt was conquered and never recovered it's greatness, despite builings being built.

what's disiase?

you forgot this verse-Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

another prophecy fullfilled!!!!!!!!!!!!

you are 0 for 4 now!!!!!!!! give it up!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on July 01, 2014, 02:33:12 AM
does the post mention the roman empire? show me the post where I claimed the Roman empire had less crime then America does now. you can't because I didn't say it
What empire did jesus live in.

old sources. nothing has changed since 2002?
Not unless you can find a more current source? Can you provide anything.

egypt was conquered,
When
the prophecy was fullfilled,
No it wasn't, it said Nebby would do it and he didn't.
you can believe it or not, it doesn't change the fact egypt was conquered and never recovered it's greatness, despite builings being built.
It was conquered in 200 ad. Nebbys bones didn't do it. 

what's disiase?
Gramer Nazi HOOOOO

you forgot this verse-Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

another prophecy fullfilled!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for the part about the virgin right.

you are 0 for 4 now!!!!!!!! give it up!!!!!!!!!!
I am guessing you don't like the math that is taught now days, you know the one where christians don't get a instawin in debates.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on July 01, 2014, 02:55:34 AM
the topic is-Biblical prophecy being fullfilled

your "failed " prophecies have been proven fulfilled. believe it or not, your choice.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on July 01, 2014, 04:37:44 AM
the topic is-Biblical prophecy being fullfilled

your "failed " prophecies have been proven fulfilled. believe it or not, your choice.
The problem is they have to pass one hundred percent and they have not. It states that Nebby would conquer Egypt, and his attempt failed. It stated that he would conquer Tyre and it wound never be rebuilt. It was not conquered by Nebby but by Alexander, and it was rebuilt. Jesus was talking to his followers, and said there generation would not pass away, and yet none of them exist today, And finally Jesus was supposedly born of a virgin, and it is claimed to be a prophecy but Isaiah never said it. The text was young women, but was mistranslated to virgin.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on July 01, 2014, 12:57:15 PM
nope, the prophecies were fullfilled.

nope, Jesus said"Matt 24:34-"Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." He was speaking of future events, the endtime tribulations. the generation He was speaking of is the one that will see Jesus return to set up God's kingdom.

Isaiah didn't write the book of matthew
Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins

https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/461-did-isaiah-prophesy-the-virgin-birth-of-christ (https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/461-did-isaiah-prophesy-the-virgin-birth-of-christ)
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on July 01, 2014, 07:02:07 PM
nope, the prophecies were fullfilled.
So anything I say you are going to deny now.

nope, Jesus said"Matt 24:34-"Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." He was speaking of future events, the endtime tribulations. the generation He was speaking of is the one that will see Jesus return to set up God's kingdom.
It does not follow, if this is true then I have a larger problem with jesus's speaking then anything as there is no reason anyone would say that.

Isaiah didn't write the book of matthew
Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins
Matt quoted the prophecy wrong.

https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/461-did-isaiah-prophesy-the-virgin-birth-of-christ (https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/461-did-isaiah-prophesy-the-virgin-birth-of-christ)
Except Alhma can mean young women, as in proverbs. There are three things which are too wonderful for me, for which I do not understand: 19[/size]the way of an eagle in the sky, the way of a serpent on a rock, the way of a ship in the middle of the sea, and the way of a man with a young woman [[/size]b’almah[/size]][/[/font][/size]b’almah[/size]]. 20[/size]This is the way of an adulterous woman: she eats and wipes her mouth, and says, “I have done no wrong.”
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Shall I continue. I mean you are going to deny anything anyway but others can see how well you defend it.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on July 01, 2014, 09:25:25 PM
stating a fact- 4 of them. the prophecies were fulfilled

read all of matt 24, not just 1 verse. it is all tied together and you should see how the genneration Jesus was talking about that will see him, is the one present during the endtimes.

nope. the prophecy was fullfilled

your c&p makes no sense

I have stated facts about the prophecies. I have provided proofs from books in the bible that prophecized the what ,where and  who and proved the prophecies were fullfilled. you can choose to believe them or not. but that doesn't change the fact the prophecies were fullfilled.


Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on July 01, 2014, 10:10:52 PM
stating a fact- 4 of them. the prophecies were fulfilled
Stating a fact that they didn't come true 100%

read all of matt 24, not just 1 verse. it is all tied together and you should see how the genneration Jesus was talking about that will see him, is the one present during the endtimes.
See the problem is that there was no prophecy that jesus mom was a virgin, and there is no such prophecy

nope. the prophecy was fullfilled
Again not 100%

your c&p makes no sense
It does, (And copy paste is ok when it counters a proof. Your proof was that there was no point when the word for virgin can mean a young girl in the hebrew language.

I have stated facts about the prophecies
and I have countered them God said Nebby would conquer Egypt, Nebby never conquered Egypt. God said nebby would destroy Tyre, and yet it was Alexander did it. Jesus said the disciples generation would see Jesus return, and they didn't.   
. I have provided proofs from books in the bible that prophecized the what ,where and  who and proved the prophecies were fullfilled. .you can choose to believe them or not. but that doesn't change the fact the prophecies were fullfilled.
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Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on July 01, 2014, 11:55:54 PM
the prophecies were fulfilled, whether they were fulfilled to your standard is irrelevant.

the are no prophecies for the birth of Jesus, there were and they were fulfilled.

nope jer. 43:10-13 10 and say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Behold, I will send and take Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and I will set his throne above these stones that I have hidden, and he will spread his royal canopy over them. 11 He shall come and strike the land of Egypt, giving over to the pestilence those who are doomed to the pestilence, to captivity those who are doomed to captivity, and to the sword those who are doomed to the sword. 12 I shall kindle a fire in the temples of the gods of Egypt, and he shall burn them and carry them away captive. And he shall clean the land of Egypt as a shepherd cleans his cloak of vermin, and he shall go away from there in peace. 13 He shall break the obelisks of Heliopolis, which is in the land of Egypt, and the temples of the gods of Egypt he shall burn with fire.’

read chapter 44 where the prediction that Egypt would be conquered  is also made. prophecy fulfilled!

no circle, straight facts. supported by several books and witnesses
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on July 02, 2014, 12:48:36 AM
the prophecies were fulfilled, whether they were fulfilled to your standard is irrelevant.

the are no prophecies for the birth of Jesus, there were and they were fulfilled.

nope jer. 43:10-13 10 and say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Behold, I will send and take Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and I will set his throne above these stones that I have hidden, and he will spread his royal canopy over them. 11 He shall come and strike the land of Egypt, giving over to the pestilence those who are doomed to the pestilence, to captivity those who are doomed to captivity, and to the sword those who are doomed to the sword. 12 I shall kindle a fire in the temples of the gods of Egypt, and he shall burn them and carry them away captive. And he shall clean the land of Egypt as a shepherd cleans his cloak of vermin, and he shall go away from there in peace. 13 He shall break the obelisks of Heliopolis, which is in the land of Egypt, and the temples of the gods of Egypt he shall burn with fire.’

read chapter 44 where the prediction that Egypt would be conquered  is also made. prophecy fulfilled!

no circle, straight facts. supported by several books and witnesses
NONE OF THAT HAPPENED. EGYPT'S TEMPLES WERE NEVER BURNED DOWN, THEY STILL EXIST. THE OBLISKS ARE STILL THERE. NONE OF IT HAPPENED.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on July 02, 2014, 03:27:04 AM
the prophecy was fulfilled. move on.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on September 15, 2014, 11:31:20 PM
right from the headlines;

Matthew 24:7 - For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places-

ebola is spreading; the cdc said it is not if, but when the ebola makes it here. a repiratory illness, used to be rare is spreading on the east cost. isis is said to be trying to get in the US; maybe already Here?

flooding in Arizona,nevada, but drought in California. civil unrest increasing, the economy is not as good as the gov't says.

and a do nothing don't care president and congress.

it will get worse!

all of us(me too) need to get right with God. Jesus will be setting up His kingdom, most likely in our lifetime!
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on September 16, 2014, 01:45:21 AM
right from the headlines;

Matthew 24:7 - For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places-

ebola is spreading; the cdc said it is not if, but when the ebola makes it here. a repiratory illness, used to be rare is spreading on the east cost. isis is said to be trying to get in the US; maybe already Here?

flooding in Arizona,nevada, but drought in California. civil unrest increasing, the economy is not as good as the gov't says.

and a do nothing don't care president and congress.

it will get worse!

all of us(me too) need to get right with God. Jesus will be setting up His kingdom, most likely in our lifetime!
Jesus will not come in mine, my children or my grand children lifetime. In the year 3000 you will (And by you I mean christians) will still be waiting for Jesus. Mankind will have colonized other planets and you will still be waiting for him.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on September 17, 2014, 01:19:07 AM
LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!  new shipment of comic books or the syfy channel????????????????  LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

no one knows the day or time when Jesus will return to earth and set up God's kingdom, except God. But Jesus and the prophets gave us signs. current world events would suggest  those signs are occurring and the end time prophecies are being fulfilled.

your choice to believe or not.

Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on September 17, 2014, 01:30:50 AM
LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!  new shipment of comic books or the syfy channel? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???  LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

no one knows the day or time when Jesus will return to earth and set up God's kingdom, except God. But Jesus and the prophets gave us signs. current world events would suggest  those signs are occurring and the end time prophecies are being fulfilled.

your choice to believe or not.
Those signs could be pointed by the first generation of believers, there is no point in time when the prophices were not happening.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on September 18, 2014, 01:27:39 AM
nope. read revelations.  the signs are specific to end time events, unlike events long past.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on September 18, 2014, 02:12:47 AM
nope. read revelations.  the signs are specific to end time events, unlike events long past.
No, no they are not. Every generation from Jesus till now has thought they were in the end times. And every single one said prophesy.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on September 18, 2014, 02:44:47 AM
every single one ? prove it.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on September 20, 2014, 07:10:37 AM
every single one ? prove it.
Prove what, that every generation has expected Jesus in there lifetime, Why all you have to do is provide a example of a single generation that did not think jesus was coming back in there lifetime. I can point through the 100+ generations, but we both are aware that even if I did it wouldn't prove anything to you. So the balls in your court. Either tell me what proof would be concrete enough for you or provide a single counterpoint.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on September 21, 2014, 03:54:41 AM
you said"Every generation from Jesus till now has thought they were in the end times". who from every generation said prophesy(prophecy). Prove your statement!

the balls(ball is) in your court!
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on September 22, 2014, 06:28:27 AM
you said"Every generation from Jesus till now has thought they were in the end times". who from every generation said prophesy(prophecy). Prove your statement!

the balls(ball is) in your court!
I tried to post the page, with ever single one, But it was too big. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events) has so many
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on September 22, 2014, 01:45:17 PM
lame excuse for not providing proofs for your statements. what is important to realize with the current events is the intensity and frequency of natural disasters, famine, pestilence, wars, etc....
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on September 23, 2014, 05:47:32 AM
lame excuse for not providing proofs for your statements. what is important to realize with the current events is the intensity and frequency of natural disasters, famine, pestilence, wars, etc....
Natural disasters... Couldn't be man made for pumping co2 in the air for a century. Must be god.
Famine... Obesity is calling, Famine is not a problem man.
Pestilence... Really. Prove that it is worse now then in the past.
War... So W is the antichrist after all
ECT... Once you believe with all your heart the propaganda, it is easy to stay ignorant.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on September 23, 2014, 03:00:26 PM
global warming is a hoax

famine is not a problem man? check africa, the middle east

pestilence? ebola is getting worse, mersa?

war? the middle east isn't the only war going on

you are right; "Once you believe with all your heart the propaganda, it is easy to stay ignorant." !
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: ebilly99 on September 24, 2014, 12:59:02 AM
global warming is a hoax. Nope try again, Global warming is happening.

famine is not a problem man? check africa, the middle east Economic faults are not equal to lack of food, Try again.

pestilence? ebola is getting worse, mersa?  Try again, While ebola is bad it is no where near as bad as 200 years ago.

war? the middle east isn't the only war going on No and your point. A depleted military and a weak america not willing to make international treaties.

you are right; "Once you believe with all your heart the propaganda, it is easy to stay ignorant." !
Fish I am glad you agree.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on September 24, 2014, 01:34:16 AM
read it again. you are the one that believes the propaganda. I live in the real world!

global warming occurs every time the sun comes up. climate change happens 4 times a year. today is the 1st day of fall

Africa is not a fertile place for farming. politics is more of a cause for famine/ starvation there. the white farmers were run off farms their ancestors started in Zimbabwe, the ones that took over the farms have not planted anything. genetic modified corn is setting in ware houses because the gov't doesn't want to disperse it. warlords control much of the distribution of aid

how bad was ebola 200 yrs ago? LOL LOL LOL LOL it was 1st discovered in 1976! you need to put the comic books down and read something else so you will know what you are talking about! LOL LOL LOL

you have no point; W is the antichrist?LOL LOL LOL LOL

whose "depleted" military? America is not weak, just weak leaders! what treaties should we make , with anyone?

at least you have explained your ignorance!
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on October 14, 2014, 02:59:30 AM
ebola is spreading, the entrovirus is spreading. our borders are porous. isis terrorists have been captured trying to get across the border. it isn't a matter of if, but when the next terrorist attack is carried out on US soil. the economy is getting weaker, stock market drops a bunch again. but the great news; the day that Jesus sets up God's kingdom on earth is getting closer.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: shadylane on October 14, 2014, 11:35:23 PM
ebola is spreading, the entrovirus is spreading. our borders are porous. isis terrorists have been captured trying to get across the border. it isn't a matter of if, but when the next terrorist attack is carried out on US soil. the economy is getting weaker, stock market drops a bunch again. but the great news; the day that Jesus sets up God's kingdom on earth is getting closer.

Are you saying all these bad things are   "the great news"  because of your religious beliefs?
That concept could lead to making things bad for a self fulfilling prophecy.
If there is a God, wouldn't she prefer everything gets better as humans become more enlightened?
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on October 15, 2014, 02:14:51 AM
LOL LOL you are still very entertaining shady!

read the post again. the calamities, judgments, bad things, whatever you wish to call them, are not the good news. They are signs. signs that are fulfilling bible prophecy.
in case you missed the GREAT news in my post, I'll repeat it; but the great news; the day that Jesus sets up God's kingdom on earth is getting closer.

there has to be a reason for Jesus to come back and set up God's kingdom. if everything was fine and dandy, no perils, disease, wars, terrorist attacks, etc; There would be no reason for Jesus to come back and set up God's kingdom and save us from ourselves.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: shadylane on October 16, 2014, 10:31:19 PM
I'll be honest, I don't know where to find the biblical information to debate with you.
Can you supply this for me?
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on October 17, 2014, 01:18:14 AM
read the book of revelation to start. Isaiah ( especially chapter 9). there is a book called the Harbinger. it addresses many prophecies for the end of days and is referenced to the bible. the books of jeremiah, Daniel are good also. These are old testament books. I find the details fascinating as they are predicting events hundreds /thousands of yrs away. read with an open mind as there is a lot of symbolism. I am still learning to identify the symbols. the book the Harbinger describes the symbolism and references them to the bible. there is a companion book for the harbinger. I haven't read as I had my bible with me when I read the book. this will give you a good start I think.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: shadylane on October 20, 2014, 11:40:19 PM
How do you decipher the book of Revelations?
It's more twisted than the predictions of Nostradamus.
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
Post by: fish on October 21, 2014, 12:54:01 AM
It helps if you read Daniel, Isaiah, jeremiah. The bible I use is the new American standard bible. it has references to other verses in the bible in all the books. revelation has references to books chapter and verse of corresponding books in the ot and nt. there is a lot of symbolism in the bible and it takes a lot of studying to understand them. I still study to try and understand the symbols. some use a concordance. there are websites that do the same thing; like http://www.openbible.info/labs/cross-references/. (http://www.openbible.info/labs/cross-references/.)

revelation is a difficult book at times; but other books in the bible reference the same events to come. that is why watching what is going on in the world is exciting. not all events are prophecies being fulfilled, but many events are.

I am glad you are reading/ studying the bible. I still read and reread so it sinks in. with all that is happening it is very important to get closer to God and Jesus!
Title: Re: Biblical prophecy being fullfilled
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