Don't write any bad checks.
She recently sent someone to prison for 5 years for shoplifting at Wal-mart. Isn't that what this community wants? A safer place to live?
Well everyone remembers the pay raise that the elected officials voted last December. Do you also remember that none of them will get the raise during their term in office. In other words you vote a raise for your replacement.
meforme, I will agree that there are officers that need some extreme remedial report writing classes. However, when she first took office, she did some things that made me go hmmm. But being the fair person I am, I said give her a chance. Now, I have had a chance to evaluate her work history and think she has done a mediocre job. Will it get better, I can only hope so. At this point, I wouldn't vote for her again if Satan was her opposition.I believe satan held that job once didn't he?
Gifford would be better, maybe she should stay gone for a few months. I hope folks who read this threat remember that when paperwork doesn't get done in a PA's office, warrants get issued that sometimes shouldn't get issued usually for traffic tickets and the like. Now you can give her the benefit of the doubt or anything else, but when your hauled in on a warrant that should not of been issued in the first place, you'll have a better understanding of how important that paperwork is. And YOU are the one that has to prove it was a mistake because PA Hooper NEVER makes a mistake as you can tell from the DG. And when you hear about her complaining because the LE folks aren't doing their reports correctly, etc, remember it's her who should be training them to the standards she needs in an effort to build a case. Didn't mean to rant, but here is an example of someone getting elected based on political party, not competence.
Someone posted on another thread that she was out of town and Gifford was acting in her place. Didn't say she was gone for good though.
Do you know what the background of that person was? Maybe that person had a history of shoplifting and stealing and gotten away with it time and time again. Don't you know that everytime someone shoplifts from a business it costs money? And guess what? It is passed on to YOU -- the consumer. Don't you know that if someone gets buy with a small crime, they gradually work up to bigger and bigger crimes? Don't you know that if that person had gotten away with that crime, maybe the next thing would be armed robbery or even murder. It could have been one of your loved ones. You know, I was taught that as Christians we are to love one another, and be tender-hearted towards each other. So I would say to all Christians, "He that is without sing among you, let him first cast a stone at her". How about being more supportive of her, encouraging her, and praying for her rather than persecuting her. How about telling her when you see her "in church": "Hey, Sister, I appreciate all you do, and I'm praying for you."this has nothing to do with sin or Christianity, it is all about incompetance which last time I read my Bible it wasn't a sin. Maybe the people she hired need more training, but they are probably friends or friends of friends if she hired all new people. I don't think getting a shoplifter from wal-mart is going to affect the "good old boys" around here at all. Yes he should have been caught and punished but I wouldn't check that off as a big win for the prosecutor.
No she got the Republican vote, which is the majority in this county. Very few of the military assigned to FLW are registered to vote in Missouri.
Gifford would be better, maybe she should stay gone for a few months. I hope folks who read this threat remember that when paperwork doesn't get done in a PA's office, warrants get issued that sometimes shouldn't get issued usually for traffic tickets and the like. Now you can give her the benefit of the doubt or anything else, but when your hauled in on a warrant that should not of been issued in the first place, you'll have a better understanding of how important that paperwork is. And YOU are the one that has to prove it was a mistake because PA Hooper NEVER makes a mistake as you can tell from the DG. And when you hear about her complaining because the LE folks aren't doing their reports correctly, etc, remember it's her who should be training them to the standards she needs in an effort to build a case. Didn't mean to rant, but here is an example of someone getting elected based on political party, not competence.
Is she up for re-election this year? There are not many viable ways to remove a sitting prosecutor.
I have read alot on both sides of the fence and I just cant believe what some people will say. You can ask any LE officer or deputy, they are not happy. But all too often they have to be professionals and be careful who they make comments to. The fact of the matter is that she is not doing her job correctly no matter how hard she is trying. There is something wrong when she is in at 6am and leaves at 8pm and gets almost nothing done. Then all she wants to do is blame everyone else. She even dogs on her own staff. If you are a victim and want to make sure the violator is punished then talk to Scott. He will get you answers and does more work than Mrs. Hooper. And he knows what he is doing. He is the Assistant Prosecutor. To give credit, she is trying but she just isnt good at it. She thinks all cases have to be like they are on tv, PERFECT. I dont mean to slam on her but thins is just not the job for her.
Why can't we get rid of her and give Scott the job untillthe next election.
No..I bet not one judge has EVER worked a 40 hour week unless there was once some fluke of a long trial...which around here usually a 2 week murder trial gets resolved in 3 days. If they don't have court, they are home. And that could be days at a time.
True. Scott is gone.
She has been wanting a 10k raise. Maybe she can get that now! Afterall she works SOO hard! No one else is capable of doing anything. Maybe she should fire her staff too!
We thought nothing got done before, wait till you see what happens now!. I would hate to be a defendant in this county. You'll sit in jail forever!
I've only heard second-hand talk so I cannot pretend to know how Ms. Hooper runs her office. I have heard she is extremely intelligent--perhaps even a genious. But I've also heard it say that she has organization problems. I've also heard that she often spends the entire night at the office--so it sounds like she works hard, but maybe she has problems focusing on the important issues and is simply overwhelmed due to organization and focus issues. This is mere speculation and I do not mean to disparage her. As for the next election, Attorney Ronda Cortesini would make an excellent prosecutor in my opinion. I've heard she is tough, yet diplomatic, no-nonsense and highly organized.I don't think she's anywhere close to a genius. From what I've heard winning the election as prosecutor basically saved her law practice, she wasn't very good. And she's not getting any better. There have been several that were allowed to walk because of her mistakes but the assistant gets fired for letting one walk......sounds like a double standard but that's not unusual for her. I'd sure support a recall in this case, but no way will be the republicans in this county allow it...a democrat that can do the job might get elected.
I'm not sure the assistant let anybody go it may be another reason. It sure would make a good story for the daily guide to investigate and report.I agree cowboy but the don't investigate people like her. This prosecutor gets preferential treatment.
I think Ms. Kimberly Lowe would do it best, if it has to be a woman.
Someone posted the Republican committee would not support a recall election. I wonder how they would feel that she was secretly supporting a democratic candidate that used to be sheriff and giving him info to use against the current candidate, who happens to be a republican. OOPS.
Someone posted the Republican committee would not support a recall election. I wonder how they would feel that she was secretly supporting a democratic candidate that used to be sheriff and giving him info to use against the current candidate, who happens to be a republican. OOPS.Considering her incompetence, I'm not sure I would trust any information she provided.
I heard that our wonderful prosector had to dismiss charges today against the guy that did the home invasion last summer. The one where the homeowner caught the guy and held him for the sheriff's deputies. Is what I heard true? I don't want to spread rumors so that's why I am asking If it is true? If its true, why were charges dropped?
I wish the paper could cover the courts on a more regular basis where we could get better information. It would not be a surprise that she dismissed the charges in that case. A constant drive for perfection in that office means very few get prosecuted successfully. I don't think she's advising a democrat candidate for sheriff either. That sounds like something JB's groupies would spread (No offense JB). Besides, if I were the candidate I wouldn't believe a word she says.
She continues to follow the same do nothing pattern that she did in private practice. When will everyone wake up and get her out of this job. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??
I heard from her own mouth, she's only doing it for the steady paycheck and insurance...which I don't know why because her husband is retired and she has tri-care.
Wonder where all that "lost evidence" goes.....maybe where the lost socks go......Good one. :)
You know the saying "all that goes around, comes around"? It'll come back to bite her.
Yea that Karma is some powerful stuff!!Yes it will, and Yes it is.
Well I have to say i though things were great the first 3 months she was in office.
With my situation she walked into a mess from the former PA.
Now I can't find out anything nor am I notified of anything you never get a call back and everything goes to voicemail.
I find out more off the street than I do the PA office.
IF the work load is that great mabye bring in more help if the budget is there
Heck for the past 3 days I've tried calling and no one has answered the phone.
nix the no phone just got through lol
I did hear of someone I think a lot of is thinking about running in two years for her job..
Rick don't keep us in suspense, who is it?
Just some guy who will do a great job, not saying she's doing a bad job, actually I am somewhat pleased with her of late..
Sorry can't say, but thanks for the reminder I may ask him about it when I see him again.. He is a very level headed guy..
It has recently come to my attention that some local attorneys don't do well finacially, because of their title so to speak we all assume they are loaded.. Nowadays it's hard to make money in any business I suppose....
Rick is that person still interested in the Prosecutor's job? She doesn't seem to be improving.
At least one local attorney of her own political party is seriously interested, in addition to a local Democrat who runs in most elections and will probably run in 2010 as well. But no announcements have been made yet and I'm not going to announce names until they decide to do so.
The election is next year. That's a long time to wait but we can get rid of her then
See they read this site.. LOL
Rick, where did you move your store to?
Rick is that person still interested in the Prosecutor's job? She doesn't seem to be improving.
It is closed permanently.
Damn, sorry to hear that Rick
That's a good thing. Trust me. ;)
Cowboy and Coyote, you raise good points about our PA. I have first hand knowledge that she ran her private firm in a non-chalant way. She was disorganized, kept her firm's door's locked during business hours and would only open the door if the person was someone other than a "client. She let all her calls go to voice mail. Return calls to clients were done sporadically. She often complained about the lack of revenue she pulled in, and at one time was extremely upset because she had to pay her taxes via a "credit-card". I have witnessed first hand her tirade with certain members of the Church she attends. Her decision to run for PA was not for the "good of the community", it was, a financial decision. I had already formulated my opinion of Hooper after I witnessed certain scenarios, but ultimately I lost what little respect I had when her decision to run was made soley for financial reasons. While I believe income should be part of the equation when making certain decisions, it should NOT be the one and only motivating factor when running for public office. Although I don't admire her work ethics, or her unorganized agenda and office affairs, she is full of vinegar and oil, which is helpful in the courtroom. There have been pros and cons for every PA we've had. I've had the privelege of working with a few of them. When you work in the public eye, you're not going to please everyone all the time. You will have your supporters and you will have your nay sayers. It goes with the territory. But, in my opinion, Hooper is a "wolf in sheeps clothing" with a hidden agenda.
As far as the budget goes, it's tight. But with a good criminal assisant, someone to handle bad checks (which is usally done through negotiations and restitution), and a good receptionist who does double duty with the court dockets and other needed affairs, it can all be handled within the budget. So that's income for 3 people to work in the PA's office besides the Assistant PA. The child support clerk is a contract position, whereby the State reimburses the county for this position. It's of my opinion that the PA's office is disorganized, with forgotten cases, and many cases being put at the bottom of the docket because of "no-shows". They do not have a good "check and balance" in place for errors or alerts. Every PA has a different "vision" for how they want things done. The PA has to also run a "business". By the time our PA's get elected, a few of them usually don't consider the "business" side of things. They have many cases piled up and are ready to dig into courtroom action. They are trained to be lawyers, and that's what they do best (well some of them anyways), but many don't have a clue how the business side of things should flow. :wink1a:
Thanks cowboy and Fedup. I’m laughing at myself Fedup, you used the term “piss and vinegar”. That’s the terminology I was looking for!!!! Thanks! ;D
I think too, the community should collectively try and define what makes a good candidate for "prosecutor". It’s equally important to understand what being a prosecutor is not: it shouldn’t be a win-loss record, or a mechanical application for every criminal case. At a minimum, one needs a talent for trial work. As for me, I’m looking for someone who is also a people person. Personal qualities are nearly as important as their legal ability, but they should also be sensitive to the needs of the community they represent. I’d be interested in knowing how a Prosecutor or potential candidate defines success.
Showmehillbilly stated that someone went to the office to get something “notarized”. My question is why is the “prosecuting attorney” notarizing documents for the community? In the past, that office usually assigned the “child support clerk” to notarize documents because it was needed in their line of work. Hooper could certainly assign anyone in her office to do that job. It disturbs me to think she would ask anyone if they were “trashing her on the PCW”, if that person had said “yes”, would Hooper deny her the service?
It’s hard work and long hours for any prosecutor, but as a community, how often do we get a chance to understand what our prosecutor is doing for us? There is no website, there is no communication or portal to allow people to better understand what that office does for us, or at best, defining their role in the judicial system. I certainly don’t expect to have a day-by-day account, but I’d like to see that office work proactively with the community in some capacity.
Thanks cowboy and Fedup. I’m laughing at myself Fedup, you used the term “piss and vinegar”. That’s the terminology I was looking for!!!! Thanks! ;D
I think too, the community should collectively try and define what makes a good candidate for "prosecutor". It’s equally important to understand what being a prosecutor is not: it shouldn’t be a win-loss record, or a mechanical application for every criminal case. At a minimum, one needs a talent for trial work. As for me, I’m looking for someone who is also a people person. Personal qualities are nearly as important as their legal ability, but they should also be sensitive to the needs of the community they represent. I’d be interested in knowing how a Prosecutor or potential candidate defines success.
Showmehillbilly stated that someone went to the office to get something “notarized”. My question is why is the “prosecuting attorney” notarizing documents for the community? In the past, that office usually assigned the “child support clerk” to notarize documents because it was needed in their line of work. Hooper could certainly assign anyone in her office to do that job. It disturbs me to think she would ask anyone if they were “trashing her on the PCW”, if that person had said “yes”, would Hooper deny her the service?
It’s hard work and long hours for any prosecutor, but as a community, how often do we get a chance to understand what our prosecutor is doing for us? There is no website, there is no communication or portal to allow people to better understand what that office does for us, or at best, defining their role in the judicial system. I certainly don’t expect to have a day-by-day account, but I’d like to see that office work proactively with the community in some capacity.
My mom went in to ask about theirs, the guy owes 900.00 plus and they havent heard a thing!!! They couldnt find the information!
1 more year.
There is another party/person running in which will definately get my vote. His green and white signs are up advertising in a lot of places and I really think that he will do his job well if he gets elected. (crossing fingers for him)
99% of lawyers are giving the rest a bad name
attacked in my own home on Dec. 6th 2008
-no investigation
-no charges
-over $1000 of my firearms still in armory
-over 100 messages for her
.... 0 callbacks
i just want my guns back
Not trying to be real sarcastic hear, but if there was no investigation, how did your firearms end up in the armory? did the crooks just take them to the sheriff office and say here, I stole these, will you hold them for me or waht.
I too questioned that post...
We have been over this subject several times in the last couple years. The sheriff explained it well..
:deadhorse:
I assume you are talking about Jeffrey Thomas. He is attorney James Thomas' son.
please explain "that should say alot" I don't know this guy.She really can't explain because she already had one post deleted because she did say what she thought about a couple of them ;D
please explain "that should say alot" I don't know this guy.
I agree about Garrabrant, I personally thought he was a pretty sharp attorney and voted for him in the last election however, I would vote for Donald Duck over Deborah Hooper. Once you have been in the office and have proven not to do a good job you do not deserve a second chance.
Your going to vote for Gifford.
I assume you are talking about Jeffrey Thomas. He is attorney James Thomas' son.
I don't think anyone should compare him with his dad or any other attorneys in the area. He's brand new and maybe that's what this county needs. Someone who is ready to push his sleeves up and work hard to make his reputation! What better way to "cut his teeth," than to ride into Dodge and clean things up...
I do not believe, based on what I have hear, that Jeff Thomas would be able to be "on his own" and his dad would have a lot of influence. I do not believe a person with six months of experience can get the job done, but I want to hear from him.
Does anyone know him and can get him on here like Garabrandt did?
In reguards the DTM's post, the 2nd paragraph reads something to the effect of "Jim Thomas' job is to get criminals off the hook."
As a former law enforcement officer with several years of experience of investigating crimes and bringing people to justice, my opinion of what Criminal Defense Attornies are doing is:
"Their Job Is To Make Sure I've Done Mine!"
If law enforcement and prosecutors looked at the judicial system in that light, they would probably do better jobs done in arresting and prosecuting alleged offenders.
All accused are entitled to adequate defense counsel. That's the way our system works.
JMHO.
Remembering this in considering the topic at hand....... maybe a defense guy/gal would make a better prosecutor than a family law guy/gal.
Just throwing that out for discussion.
That is my point, irregardless of who his dad is. He's new, brand new... He's inexperienced... FAR too inexperienced. Being the prosecuting attorney is knowing when to plead some cases out and knowing what to take to trial. And if he has to go to trial, knowing how to prepare for said trial. An attorney practicing only 6 months does NOT have that experience at all.
If he truly wants the position he needs to spend time as an assistant APA somewhere and learn.
What about a judge that never practiced as an attorney?
Good work Darrell. I agree. For the record, does anybody know how many prosecutions have resulted in a guilty verdict under Mrs. Hooper? Does anybody know how many cases have not even made it to trial yet under Mrs.Hooper? I don't know I'm just wondering if anybody has her record and can make it public on here.
Darrell, I have to say that I agree with you 99%, with the exception of your last sentence. Police officers will be very frustrated to deal with an inexperienced lawyer. Hooper was inexperienced in criminal law when she was elected and I said it was a mistake then. Hindsight is always 20/20.... even though sometimes it's nice to say "I told you so", :-) Please know I am just teasing.
I am not endorsing Wayne Gifford, I have very strong opinions on him myself, but if the choice is going to be only between those two... I will choose Gifford. My personal opinions on the way he carries himself and interacts with the Judges etc. will have to be put aside. Out of those two, Gifford, KNOWS the law. That is one benefit he has going for him. Out of all three, IF they are the only three.... I'm choking while I state this... Wayne Gifford is finally going to get my vote.
Hopefully we'll get another runner before the March 25th meet the candidates at East Elementary!!
I heard that the lawyers support Gifford to be prosecutor because he will press charges on every crime and everyone will have to hire lawyers to defend them.
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The greater majority would have public defenders would be my guess.
Darrell, where did Jeff Thomas get his law degree?
Was't Gifford prosecutor once before? Was he deelected or what? If you were here then, how was he?
Darrell even if it were not outoud, does local law enforcement think any of the three would be better than the other?
I absolutely Hate Gifford, but for the that reason Id vote for him to be prosicuter, Hes Ruthless, he has no heart, and he has no respect for Judges. My ex sister in law used him in a disability case. he made such an ass out of himself the judge almost threw out the case. This was in St. Louis. He was also my adversary in a divorce case not too long later. he threatened to physically hit my ex wife..( He was her lawyer) for asking questions. He seems to me to be a hack lawyer, but he does know the law and he is a ruthless, heart less , Mean individual, who is what this county needs as a prosicuter. not some lazy ass wannabe . I think this may be his calling. He sure as hell has no other place as a lawyer. My vote will be for him as long as he uses his traits to further the counties betterment. He sucks as a humanitarian. He rules as an a$$hole that gets shit done.
I don't know why the lady didn't know more but I sure wish she would have known. But my biggest peeve is not being told about them setting him a court date because I want to know what is going on since it is my money that is being played with here.
thank you i will do that since it isnt on casenet yet.
Biker, I LOVE your signature line! It fits at nearly EVERY level of Government.
I filed for prosecutor today and welcome any questions folks may have about what my plans are, who I am, my experience, why I want the job etc. I hope to have my website up and running tonight.
Thanks,
Kevin Hillman
Candidate for Pulaski County Prosecuting Attorney
Pulaski County Web endorses Kevin Hillman for Prosecuting Attorney.
I filed for prosecutor today and welcome any questions folks may have about what my plans are, who I am, my experience, why I want the job etc. I hope to have my website up and running tonight.
Thanks,
Kevin Hillman
Candidate for Pulaski County Prosecuting Attorney
I filed for prosecutor today and welcome any questions folks may have about what my plans are, who I am, my experience, why I want the job etc. I hope to have my website up and running tonight.
Thanks,
Kevin Hillman
Candidate for Pulaski County Prosecuting Attorney
I'm writing this not to criticize or disagree with Rick, just to note that Rick Lepard and I run separate businesses. Some people don't know that and are going to come across this post and assume that Rick speaks for me or that I speak for Rick.OMG DTM! I do not remember you EVER being so "political" to the point of voicing such strong opposition. I darn near fell off my chair.
My only endorsement in this race, at least so far, is a negative one ... almost anyone would be better than the incumbent prosecutor, Deborah Hooper. I've written about my reasons previously on this thread.
Ms. Hooper needs to be gone. Whether Kevin Hillman, Jeff Thomas or Wayne Gifford would be best to replace her is a legitimate question for voters to review in the next few months.
Others will ask lots of questions so I'll leave the obvious ones (i.e., why do you want the job, why vote for you and not your opponents) to others. I'll be asking those things later in a formal interview closer to the Republican primary in August.
But here are some more specialized questions others probably won't ask.
Question 1: Please describe your understanding of the Missouri Sunshine Law and how, if elected prosecutor, you will handle city councils, school boards, the county commission, and other government agencies that you believe are violating it.
I deal with the Sunshine Act on a daily basis in my capacity as city attorney for St. Robert. Basically, everything is an open record/open meeting unless it deals with very specific exceptions. The main ones that we deal with on a daily basis are personnel issues, pending litigation, and real estate purchases/sale/leases.
I would try and advise each of the boards of the rules of the Sunshine Act to help with compliance. Keep in mind that the prosecutor is the attorney for the county commission, but each city and school board has their own separate attorney to advise them. I will have to be careful not to interfere their attorney's advice. If it is a serious violation, one that I think was knowing and purposeful, then criminal charges may be appropriate. That would be reviewed on a case by case basis.
Question 2: Sheriff JB King appears to have already endorsed you on this board and even more clearly on the "other board." Please outline your relationship with local law enforcement agencies, how you will treat requests from them to file charges, and how you will handle situations where you do not believe the police officer or deputy has given you enough in the probable cause statement to file a credible charge against an alleged offender.
I believe that I have a good relationship with the local law enforcement agencies. I have worked very closely with St. Robert PD and have worked with the Waynesville PD as well. I have also gotten to know many in the Sheriff's Department and I am very proud that Sheriff King has expressed his support so strongly. I have not worked with the police departments in Crocker, Richland, and Dixon as much because I have been in St. Robert. However, I think I am a pro police prosecutor. What I mean by that is I am here for them. If they need to call me in the middle of the night to ask me a questions, that is fine with me. I would rather them get it right, instead of trying to fix the screw up later. I also am here to try and make their lives easier. I will do everything in my power to try and take their viewpoint into account. There are times when the prosecutor and police will disagree. But, if I tell them why and explain it, then we both come out ahead. I plan on filing all charges that warrant being filed. If it does not meet the standard that I set, which is that I am convinced that the case is solved, then I'll ask for more investigation and explain why. The prosecutor is charged with not just winning every case, but seeking justice.
I hope that answers your questions!
Kevin
After reading the questions you've poised to Kevin Hillman, I am really hoping that you'll be able to post questions to the Candidates right here on PCW! I can tell you I will be looking forward to such a thread!!
OMG DTM! I do not remember you EVER being so "political" to the point of voicing such strong opposition. I darn near fell off my chair.
Oh, I think you'll be looking forward much more to questions other people ask. I can interview candidates whenever I want. It's what reporters do. The benefit of the Pulaski County Web is that it allows the average Joe and average Jane to question people in public about why they think they should be elected.
It takes a lot for me to take a stance such as what I did, and am doing, with the current prosecutor.
Read between the lines of something Sheriff King said but didn't say and perhaps cannot say -- the county prosecutor, who is supposed to be the county's attorney, wasn't doing her job of providing him legal counsel in lawsuits, but instead the St. Robert city attorney had to donate lots of his time for free to help the sheriff in cases where she was not doing her job. Now multiply that problem with numerous other examples of problems in the prosecutor's office that I see regularly in my work, and add in the frustrations of virtually every senior-level law enforcement official in this county, and you'll see why I wrote what I did.
It takes a great deal for me to take a strong public stance on an elected official who I need to cover. That involves serious risks to my ability to do my job, and it also is usually unwise for many other reasons. But in this case, because the work the prosecutor does largely involves things that are not common knowledge to the general public, I believe the public good demands that I speak up about what I have seen and what police tell me that they have seen.
You didn't see me talking this way about Tony Crismon, or Dennis Thornsberrry, or JT Roberts, or any of the other people who have been targets on this board. And you won't see me talking this way about Jeff Thomas or Wayne Gifford or Kevin Hillman -- a reasonable person with full awareness of the facts could reasonably conclude that any of those three people would make a good prosecutor, though some may be better than others.
Deborah Hooper is an entirely different category.
The primary purpose of the prosecuting attorney is to protect the public by putting criminals behind bars to take dangerous people out of society, or making them pay fines high enough to punish them for bad conduct and deter them from similar future conduct. When the prosecutor loses the confidence of the police, the prosecutor can no longer be effective.
As I said before, if Ms. Hooper can find any police officer in Pulaski County who is willing to endorse her and go on the record in an interview with me explaining why the officer believes Ms. Hooper is doing a good job, I would love to interview that officer.
Most of our local police will keep quiet in public and not openly attack the prosecutor, and that's probably the right thing to do. But that very silence speaks volumes -- generally police are very supportive of the prosecutor because they believe the prosecutor is doing everything possible to help the police put bad guys behind bars.
I think I will be waiting a long time for that interview.
I filed for prosecutor today and welcome any questions folks may have about what my plans are, who I am, my experience, why I want the job etc. I hope to have my website up and running tonight.
Thanks,
Kevin Hillman
Candidate for Pulaski County Prosecuting Attorney
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Not sure I understand. The judge and/or jury didn't do their job because??
I plan on voting for Kevin Hillman but he is going to have to get his name out there more if he expects to win. I see a kazillion signs out there for Thomas and Hooper. I see very few signs for Hillman. And some people vote according to name recognition.
How do you get spagetti sauce stains off a white shirt once it has been washed and dryed and set in already?
How do you get spagetti sauce stains off a white shirt once it has been washed and dryed and set in already?
Where do you find the spagetti?
Kevin,
Our neighborhood could use a couple of your signs! Our location is simple, almost directly across I-44 from the VFW. Your opponent has one out there all by itself...so come on now!
Ask each candidate how many times they have been questioned for over billing hours on legal aid cases?
I'm in for the debate. Just let me know the time and place. Also, you can ask me questions here anytime.
Have the venue set and the moderator is booked now........ do you think Friday night or Saturday morning would be better?
DerekW,
I am happy to bring some out. I sent you a PM for addresses so they are not broadcast to the public.
Thanks,
Kevin
I, as well as others, have asked several questions on the K2 thread that have gone unanswered.
http://pulaskicountyweb.com/smf/index.php?topic=21555.new#new (http://pulaskicountyweb.com/smf/index.php?topic=21555.new#new)
Kevin,
Derek is my husband. You can bring his sign, along with those you were to bring me, to my office.
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Waynesville
Next to Dr. Phil's place.
Kevin I'll take one if you bring it to me ;D
I'll try and bring them by tomorrow. You are on the list, I promise!
Kevin I'll take one if you bring it to me ;D
Just go out the back gate and head south (958 miles) until you reach the Gulf of Mexico then turn east and drive to Navarre Beach..... Honk and I'll come out and get it. ###$$#@! ***(((* :wink1a: :wink1a:
Oil slick?? What oil slick ???
Can I put it next to the oil slick?
I'll try and bring them by tomorrow. You are on the list, I promise!
Your questions about the K2 ban are a question about why should or can the government control what consenting adults want to ingest. I am not a complete libertarian so my opinion is yes, the government can in a limited manner control what consenting adults ingest. Let me explain why I come to that conclusion. I have spent over a decade working in courtrooms prosecuting and defending criminal cases. My guess is somewhere between 75-80% of crime committed is a result of a chemical dependency or a mental condition. All of this property crime that is occurring in this county (burglary, break-ins, shoplifting etc) is because criminals are stealing so they can afford to buy another hit of heroin or another round of meth. It is really sad to see what someone will do to feed their addiction. Yes, I realize that alcohol has many of the same evils, but prohibition was tried and was a complete disaster. Is it a perfect solution, no, but it is what the law says.
Therefore, as prosecutor, I intend on prosecuting drug crimes aggressively and fairly. Many of these folks needs to be sent to prison, many need to be sent to rehab, some to both. If the State outlaws K2 which seems likely, I'll prosecute those who break the law.
Nearly 2 months ago I asked several questions, and have repeated those questions occasionally over the past 6+ weeks and still no answers. We differ on the law itself, no big deal I'd be just as happy to challenge it in court as you would be to defend it. However, you still have not answered the remainder of the questions posed on the thread.
I have looked at the post I am not sure what you want me to answer as I am not the one who votes on the law. I merely enforce it. Do I agree with your assertions that this is big daddy government, no I do not. Is it Constitutional, yes I believe it is. Can this be enforced, yes just like any other drug offense. Was this the right thing to do, yes it was. Did anyone come and speak out against either Waynesville or St. Robert banning this stuff? Not a single person.
I am all about limited government, but the one place government is permitted to act and should act is protecting law and order. Does that mean we need a police state, absolutely not. I have proudly defended folks whose rights were violated and will continue to do so. But, drugs and the problems they bring are not about a consenting adult choosing to enjoy a smoke on Saturday night. They are about the heroin addict I ran into today who was arrested for the 4th time trying to get into Wal-Mart to steal. He'll move onto someone's house so he can steal something to get some money to buy some more heroin. He is just that hooked, and will stop at nothing to get more. I have also been in jail talking to a client who was busted for meth and about to lose his daughter, who meant everything to him. I'll let you imagine the anguish he felt. It took several rounds of rehab and jail but last time I ran into him he was clean. He is the exception. For many of them, it is a revolving door.
I am not trying to preach and I know we disagree, but K2, marijuana, cocaine, heroin, meth, etc. are bad things. I'll throw alcohol in there. It's not just the people who use who are the victims, it is the innocent guy driving home who gets hit by someone whose drunk, high, stoned or whatever. Or it is my client's daughter, who had to go to foster care because mom and dad were both in prison because of meth. K2 is bad stuff, just ask the inventor who called smoking it like Russian Roullette. The K2 ban was the right thing to do not so much for the users, but for the innocent folks who get in their way.
My guess is somewhere between 75-80% of crime committed is a result of a chemical dependency or a mental condition. All of this property crime that is occurring in this county (burglary, break-ins, shoplifting etc) is because criminals are stealing so they can afford to buy another hit of heroin or another round of meth. It is really sad to see what someone will do to feed their addiction. Yes, I realize that alcohol has many of the same evils, but prohibition was tried and was a complete disaster. Is it a perfect solution, no, but it is what the law says.
Therefore, as prosecutor, I intend on prosecuting drug crimes aggressively and fairly. Many of these folks needs to be sent to prison, many need to be sent to rehab, some to both. If the State outlaws K2 which seems likely, I'll prosecute those who break the law.
Kevin... you made a blanket statement "I am not trying to preach and I know we disagree, but K2, marijuana, cocaine, heroin, meth, etc. are bad things." and that concerns me. Cocaine is used by Physicians. One use is to for numbing, so that a broken nose can be fixed. Have you had a cancer ridden family member vomit excessively, cry out in pain? Marijuana HAS medicinal properties, has LESS side effects than the "legal" meds used, yet I watched my Father die, and am presently watching another family member suffer, because of blanket statements like that from our Legislators. Educate yourself about the truths concerning these drugs........
Kevin... you made a blanket statement "I am not trying to preach and I know we disagree, but K2, marijuana, cocaine, heroin, meth, etc. are bad things." and that concerns me. Cocaine is used by Physicians. One use is to for numbing, so that a broken nose can be fixed. Have you had a cancer ridden family member vomit excessively, cry out in pain? Marijuana HAS medicinal properties, has LESS side effects than the "legal" meds used, yet I watched my Father die, and am presently watching another family member suffer, because of blanket statements like that from our Legislators. Educate yourself about the truths concerning these drugs........
Is there any REAL chance of getting a drug court in Pulaski County? If I am not mistaken the courts did a pilot drug court in Texas County.
oops~ this is Jax. I just happen to be on Derek's computer at the moment. :sleepy1a:
While i agree that pot is not the worst thing we could have legalized, Almost every country in the world HAS NOT legalized it. In fact, most countries have stiffer laws than us concerning possestion and sales. Most of Eurpope is is a major crime to be cought with it. The only country to try to legalize it was Holland , but they went too far and legalized other drugs too, and it really back fired on them and now, it is illegal in Holland also.
But I do agree that the government should take over the control of production, and sales, similar to tobacco, and alcohol, but then the agency would be have to be called ATF and POT or PATF or ATFP or FATP
bump......please answer, I believe that the prosecutor is the right person to ask about this since i don't currently have the ear of a judge.
Kevin, while I am WELL aware you are not a Legislator, I have to sit back and wonder....how aggressive will you be at prosecuting someone with a small amount of marijuana, who is suffering from cancer, MS, AIDS, etc? These are things that need to be considered.
Marijuana is illegal for two reasons... first and foremost, the pharmaceutical companies can't make money on it, and two, our Government hasn't figured out how to make money on it, because it is such an easy plant to grow. If, I had to do over again... the hell with what was legal, I would have done my best to obtained it for my Father's comfort during his passing.
Kari, I know Kevin Hillman and I think I can tell you 2 things about him that may ease your concerns regarding this situation.
#1 Kevin is smart enough to know better than to publicly post that he wouldn't aggressively prosecute medicinal marijuana use. Whether he would or he wouldn't, he knows better than to post it. There are people out there with serious drug problems who are already searching for easy ways to get out of trouble. They are desperate enough to claim anything.
#2 Kevin has a family and knows the pain he would feel to watch any of them go through something so horrific as the pain often associated with cancer. I am not claiming to know what he would do or that he won't prosecute the law, just that he can be a compassionate person when compassion is what is necessary for that particular situation.
He has my vote.
The problem is if its illegal, its illegal plain and simple, once someone gets away with using or possesing for medicinal purposes it opens pandoras box for anyone to claim medicinal use or possesion.
I have done alot of reading on this thread, and just finally getting around to throwing in my two cents, so here it goes:
As it is painfully obvious, this thread has been an anti Hooper thread. That being said, I've read things from evidence being lost on an arson case, to not prosectuing somebody who wrote an 800 dollar bad check. I've read how this board supports Kevin Hillman and how even the sheriff endorses him, which is wierd because he is probably not supposed to have an opinion and support the current prosecutor, but that is probably a different subject for a different time.
My point is this: No matter who gets elected, they will obviously inheret the case load that Hooper will undoubtly leave behind. After the honeymoon period is over, and everyone is done congradulating each other on a job well done of getting elected, that's when the preasure will be and then whomever it is in the seat will be catching the same flack (sp?) as the current prosecuter does. Bottom line, nobody will ever be completly happy with whoever it is, especially when it something that involves them personally.
BTW, after doing some thinking, if somebody writes a bad check for a large amount, they get prosecuted, and do the time that it requires, what good does it do the person? Aren't they stil out of the money anyway? Just something that I randomly thought about.
I look foward to whatever responses, both positve and negative, come from my post.
God bless everyone of you.
Excellent answer Kevin, but I do feel you need to know (in your heart and mind), how you will go forward in such a situation. Just because you haven't prosecuted, nor seen prosecution for such a thing, reality is.... it can very well happen. In the State of Missouri, there is NO medicinal marijuana....it is illegal to possess, or grow it. There have been people prosecuted for possession/growing of marijuana, who used it for medicinal purposes. Google John Wilson of New Jersey, a Multiple Sclerosis patient. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=7170696 (http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=7170696)
Google Peter McWilliams, Jonathan Magbie, paraplegic James Montgomery... use your resources and find out how many people are still in prison for possession of marijuana, who had serious conditions such as cancer, AIDS, MS, etc. You may be surprised to find out they were prosecuted for possession of marijuana, they were using as medication. Yes, people have been, and still are being prosecuted for MEDICINAL marijuana. Think about it Kevin, because you will be the one to decide how aggressive such cases will be handled here.
I'm sorry, but I've personally seen the suffering... I am presently seeing the suffering, and it nauseates me to see such injustices, because the pharmaceutical companies can't line their filthy pockets off the backs of seriously ill people.
I agree, we have to get drugs such as Meth off the streets, and I applaud all the effort our PD has put into accomplishing this, but is it in the best interest, financially, of our community, to go after non-violent/non-victimizing crime of medicinal marijuana possession/growing?
If there is a prosecuting attorney who is willing to look into this or have an opinion about it that is the one I will be voting for!!
Great Question Kari!!
I know I hate to see people using marijauana just because they want to and yes it is illegal. And there are FAR more harmful drugs out there that they are taking! I cant even imagine wanting to put drano or any other mixture of meth into my body. How it doesnt kill them is beyond me. But... I also suffer from MS, RSD (Reflex Sympothetic Dystrophy wich is a constant pain in the nerves of your body that NEVER goes away!) I have had a neck fusion at c6-c7 that never healed corectly due to the fact I was never sent home in a neck brace for the weeks it needed to heal correctly. I has bad scar tissue and demylination right on that area. I have disk degenerative disease and a herniated disk at L1 & L2 that an operation wont help that keeps me in pain when I try and stand to do dishes and sweeping the floor?? I cant even explain how that feels. They recently found 2 leaking valves in my heart as well. Cause by the stress I put myself thru and maybe a littel to do with all of the drugs I used to take for 4 years to try and ease my pain. I took up to 6 percocet (that were prescribed before I got any affect from it because I was on it so long). I am severaly allergic to morphine (stopped my heart) and to demoral! So I have no other drug to take but toradol that helps but doesnt take away the pain. My back teeth are rotten from taking the percocet for so long. My dentist asked why and I had to explain that I was allergic to the other drugs that they could have switched me to. It has torn up my stomach in the process, messed up my digestive system and has costed me I couldnt tell you how many dollar for those drugs. So... I had to stop taking them, requesting them and now jsut try and meditate on the pain. It makes me angry and aggitated and I hate that cause it has changed me as a person living with all of this. I have fibromyalgia on otp of it and to look at me.. I look great and try to keep myself that way in a battle to not let the disease take me!
My doctor told me that if he could give me medical marijana he would! Said it was cheaper, easier on my body all together, a Natuarlly grown herb placed here by god adn all the man made laboratory medicine is NOT going to help me but harm me!
Now what am I do to? I am divorced now and live on 818..00 a month with a 1,900.00 spendown every 6 months BEFORE medicaid will step in. This means with the currant medicines I take,it costs me 186.00 a month for my meds a month. (no pain meds involved just ones to deal with the depression I suffer because of the pain and the anti anxiety meds im on to calm my nerves to help ease the pain) I have rent, electric,, water, phone, cable, internet, (anddon go there ,I have no other money to even get out and enjoy life so internet and cable is NEEDED) I have car insurance (mandaded by the state if Not I go to jail and pay dearly that they dont deduct when trying to get help) and I pay life insurance premium on me that is term (somebody has to bury me) and i pay for my 2 kids and grandsons life insurance (who's gonna bury them if I dont?) I also have to buy food, clothes, personal items and feed my dog who is my companion.
What is the answer for this Mr. David Day (you are our representative who was against this) on what I can do?
I have NO family who have the money to help me at all. I have no husband, partner or friends who are capable. Why is an herb, that helps with pain, calms your nerves and relaxes you that does not cost so much to obtain so bad for our people in this condition? why isnt it available to us?
I believe that if your family member or child for that matter suffered as I do, and right now my right arm by my elbow and up to my shoulder hurts so bad I cant even shift my car, and Im right handed and it is now going into my neck and head and down my leg! I hurt so bad went to ER and they took xray and nothing wrong with the bone. they said it was an advanced condition due to my MS! I now have to start all over with Drs. to find a way to get help because I have moved to a new state that the help is worse!
I could use this naturally grown herb to HELP me not HURT me! and it would be so much cheaper!
They dont get violent, they dont kill people when they drive, and it isnt meth, cocaine or any other type drug!
Maybe the government instead of giving bail outs should use that money to help the people who need it to continue to pay and support your federal drug administration?!
I wouldnt wish what I am going thru on my worst enemy! I truely wouldnt and there are more who are suffering more than I with diseases and cancer and etc. and cant find help that is needed with a drug that can do it! Maybe that is why God has it here?? That is why it grows here? It can be regulated! You regulated cigarettes and beer and drugs!! No its not perfect but you did it. This can be the same!
That is it in a nut shell....they can't figure out how to make money from making it legal, so make it illegal and you can collect court fees, fines, and funds for your prisons to house all those "horrible" marijuana users/growers/suppliers.
Sorry for your problems but I just wanted to say Marijuana cant be regulated anyone can grow it themselves they cant tax it so its not legal end of story. Your better off just breaking the law and smoking it anyway. possesing under 35 grams is a misdemeanor with a fine at the worst. Just find someone who smokes it (there are a ton of people that do that you wouldnt ever think) and get some to illeviate your problems.
BTW, after doing some thinking, if somebody writes a bad check for a large amount, they get prosecuted, and do the time that it requires, what good does it do the person? Aren't they stil out of the money anyway? Just something that I randomly thought about.
over 2 years ago I had a firearm stolen by someone who had already been convicted of felony assult. It was recovered within 48 hours by the PCSD with a confession and the location of the firearm from the person who stole it. I was told it would take a week or 2 to process and we would be able to recover it, next we were told it had been sent to the crime lab and would take a month or so , next we were told it would be 6 months , six months later we were told it still wasnt back , six months after that we were told the same. after a new evidence officer took ove we were told that our firearm had NOT been at the crime lab he had just taken it up himself. The prosicutor told us she wasnt going to file untill it came back from the crime lab with his fingerprints on it so she could get a conviction, Now her office wont even return our calls and are just giving us the run around and wont even tell us whats going on with the case if there is even a case. so much for that whole crime victims bill of rights thing , guess that only applies OUTSIDE of Pulaski County.
Since everyone else seems to be asking questions of Kevin let me throw one out there :
Is prosecuting repeat offenders who are on probation for violent crimes a priority for you , and do you feel that you can get convictions with a confession even if you dont have fingerprints ?
http://www.house.mo.gov/content.aspx?info=/bills101/bills/hb1670.htm (http://www.house.mo.gov/content.aspx?info=/bills101/bills/hb1670.htm) May 14th, 2010, Missouri HB 1670, for medicinal marijuana, did make it to Committee.....
The list of Committee members are listed here http://house.mo.gov/content.aspx?info=/bills101/commit/com170.htm (http://house.mo.gov/content.aspx?info=/bills101/commit/com170.htm)
Now it will be a matter of seeing if it dies in Committee (no hearing date has been set), or if our Legislators actually do their research on the benefits of medicinal marijuana, and discard the old myths/propaganda the pharmaceutical companies, and our previous Government agencies have passed on for decades.
Do we want a guy on the interstate smoothing pavement who just finished his treatment for pain in his leg?
What is stopping the same guy from taking Percocets, or Vicodens?
If a person wants to do that, nothing stops it now (anyone can pop a pill without anyone seeing them), however those medications normally have restrictions on them that the employee/boss work around. They likely would not be allowed on heavy equipment while using certain drugs. This bill, in the way it is written, actually prevents the boss from making restrictions in the minds of many legal folks, and I agree that the argument could be made. I believe the intent is to keep the boss or company from discriminating against someone using it, but because of the vague wording it could prevent any restrictions from being put on the worker.
Dave
So, if the same restrictions were on the prescribed Marijuana that were on other prescribed meds (narcotics) would you be more apt to legalize it?
Dude, that's all a good thing.
Its clear to me after reading this thread some people dont REALLY know the effects of marijuana. Its not a pain reliever, you still feel pain you just dont care, your lazy and hungry most of the time. That is the effects of marijuana. Your lucky if people actually even leave their house to do something if they have smoked.Actually, you're wrong. With Multiple Sclerosis, and some other conditions, there's something called spacisity, which can be EXTREMELY painful and disabling. Medicinal marijuana works better, and is safer than baclofen to relax the spastic muscles. Normal muscle relaxers do not work on this kind of neurological condition. Though the dosage of medicinal marijuana varies, it's normally a very small amount and does not cause the "don't care, lazy, hungry" feeling you spoke of.
Its clear to me after reading this thread some people dont REALLY know the effects of marijuana. Its not a pain reliever, you still feel pain you just dont care, your lazy and hungry most of the time. That is the effects of marijuana. Your lucky if people actually even leave their house to do something if they have smoked.
DTM, how insulting.... a rational, intelligent discussion as to how a Prosecuting Attorney would address an issue as we had originally started concerning marijuana is NOT a bunch of pot heads discussing how to keep Hooper in Office. My original question is a legitimate question. Will our County resources be wasted on prosecuting people who are using marijuana, as a medicine for a serious condition, when other, more serious crimes are neglected. Had there not been a discussion showing the medicinal value of marijuana, the thoughts of those in the area concerning it, then it would have looked like people just wanting the issue of marijuana, use/possession, overlooked in the criminal justice system.
I, personally, do not endorse Hooper, as many here know I am presently involved in a case (as the victim) that has been drug out far too long.
Did this thread go a little off course, maybe a tad, but it still is addressing issues that our PA will have to face. Kevin gave an excellent answer, and I did post that.
This thread, as it states, is about our PRESENT PA, not the candidates, yet that is another area where this thread has gone. Threads tend to develop a life of their own, according to the interests at the time.
Sorry for your problems but I just wanted to say Marijuana cant be regulated anyone can grow it themselves they cant tax it so its not legal end of story. Your better off just breaking the law and smoking it anyway. possesing under 35 grams is a misdemeanor with a fine at the worst. Just find someone who smokes it (there are a ton of people that do that you wouldnt ever think) and get some to illeviate your problems.
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Not that he needs defending but I believe he did say that the original question was on point, however it drifted after the answer. My take on his post was the legalization of Marijuana is not a prosecutor issue it's a legislator issue and one that could be moved to a different thread. Right now weed is illegal and needs to be prosecuted, not really something that is up for debate.Bliss, though I understand your point "weed is illegal and needs to be prosecuted", it IS up to the PA what cases he/she feels merits prosecution. Example: Do you prosecute, using tax payers money, with the same zeal, the 80 year old cancer patient that has 6 months to a year to live, for possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia, that you would prosecute a healthy 35 year old (who is in possession of the same amount) using marijuana for recreational purposes only? There is a real possibility that our PA will come up against such cases, and as tax payers, do you not feel that people have the right to know HOW that money is being used?
Everyone, please step back from the computer keyboards for a moment, read this thread's drift for the last few days, and ask what it will look like to somebody who is coming here to see what people are saying about Pulaski County Prosecutor Deborah Hooper.
If you haven't been reading for a long time -- and most people haven't -- this thread looks like a bunch of potheads organized a "let's get rid of Hooper as prosecutor" movement, and maybe even convinced our state representative to give prescription pot a second look.
Do the opponents of Deborah Hooper really want to have her start going all over the county, pointing to this website, and saying, "See, this proves I fight crime -- the potheads are organizing to vote me out!"
I don't know of anyone in Pulaski County who is seriously suggesting that we follow the lead of some cities by deciding to stop enforcing drug laws against marijuana. Unless a candidate for prosecutor decides to start advocating a position like that, or is accused of being "soft on pot," I really don't see what the medical marijuana issue has to do with a thread that is designed to discuss Deborah Hooper's performance in office.
Asking Kevin Hillman his position on enforcement of marijuana laws was a legitimate question, and he's answered it. Could I politely suggest that the discussion after that question was asked has veered into areas that help nobody?
There are other threads on this board where medical marijuana could be discussed or has been discussed before. That's the right place for what is being said here.
Personally, I have very little sympathy for those who want to decriminalize marijuana or other similar illegal drug. But there are other places where that can be discussed and I fully support the constitutional right of people to peaceably petition their government for redress of grievances -- even if they're wrong, like the pot legalization people.
Did I just get called a "Pothead"?With all the crap and killing going on in Kandahar........I hope your keeping your "POTHEAD" down and covered :th_gen129:
Bliss, though I understand your point "weed is illegal and needs to be prosecuted", it IS up to the PA what cases he/she feels merits prosecution. Example: Do you prosecute, using tax payers money, with the same zeal, the 80 year old cancer patient that has 6 months to a year to live, for possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia, that you would prosecute a healthy 35 year old (who is in possession of the same amount) using marijuana for recreational purposes only? There is a real possibility that our PA will come up against such cases, and as tax payers, do you not feel that people have the right to know HOW that money is being used?
Stop getting high and posting on here.. LOLGee Rick... it's a legal high!
Bliss, though I understand your point "weed is illegal and needs to be prosecuted", it IS up to the PA what cases he/she feels merits prosecution. Example: Do you prosecute, using tax payers money, with the same zeal, the 80 year old cancer patient that has 6 months to a year to live, for possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia, that you would prosecute a healthy 35 year old (who is in possession of the same amount) using marijuana for recreational purposes only? There is a real possibility that our PA will come up against such cases, and as tax payers, do you not feel that people have the right to know HOW that money is being used?
I believe one of the candidates has stated publicly that they will charge anything and everything to the fullest extent of the law. That doesn't necessarily make for the best candidate either, because, like you said, there are sometimes when circumstances require alternative measures.***(**& ***(**& ***(**& The scales of Justice HAS to weigh out fairly. To "prosecute to the fullest extent of the Law" is NOT always weighing Justice out fairly.
Everyone, please step back from the computer keyboards for a moment, read this thread's drift for the last few days, and ask what it will look like to somebody who is coming here to see what people are saying about Pulaski County Prosecutor Deborah Hooper.
If you haven't been reading for a long time -- and most people haven't -- this thread looks like a bunch of potheads organized a "let's get rid of Hooper as prosecutor" movement, and maybe even convinced our state representative to give prescription pot a second look.
Do the opponents of Deborah Hooper really want to have her start going all over the county, pointing to this website, and saying, "See, this proves I fight crime -- the potheads are organizing to vote me out!"
I don't know of anyone in Pulaski County who is seriously suggesting that we follow the lead of some cities by deciding to stop enforcing drug laws against marijuana. Unless a candidate for prosecutor decides to start advocating a position like that, or is accused of being "soft on pot," I really don't see what the medical marijuana issue has to do with a thread that is designed to discuss Deborah Hooper's performance in office.
Asking Kevin Hillman his position on enforcement of marijuana laws was a legitimate question, and he's answered it. Could I politely suggest that the discussion after that question was asked has veered into areas that help nobody?
There are other threads on this board where medical marijuana could be discussed or has been discussed before. That's the right place for what is being said here.
Personally, I have very little sympathy for those who want to decriminalize marijuana or other similar illegal drug. But there are other places where that can be discussed and I fully support the constitutional right of people to peaceably petition their government for redress of grievances -- even if they're wrong, like the pot legalization people.
My mistake Darrell, I was simply responding because in the thread my name was brought up a few times and felt the need to address it, especially since I received 3 or 4 e-mails saying that some felt I should. Back to my corner.
Dave
I have not heard from Mrs. Hooper or Mr. Gifford regarding the debate. I put on the letter that they must RSVP by yesterday and neither responded. I called both their offices and their homes and have not had a response.
Im gonna go out on a limb here and say they have 20 thousand more important things to worry about than a debate atm, especially Hooper if shes as bad and disorganized as many of you think she is.
I don't think its asking to much to spend 2 hours every 4 years to interview for a 6 figure income job. And yes we KNOW hoops is as bad and disorganized as we think/
I have a question, will it be considered assault on a minor when you are debating Thomas? Maybe even Assault on a minor with a deadly weapon(the mind can be a deadly weapon right)?
I have a question, will it be considered assault on a minor when you are debating Thomas? Maybe even Assault on a minor with a deadly weapon(the mind can be a deadly weapon right)?
Not everyone thinks Hooper is doing a bad job. I heard that mentioned at the meeting in Laquey and from others. I don’t blame her for not wanting to be part of a debate that is organized by someone that is on the PCW. She knows what people think of her that are on this site. I also believe that not everything is her fault. She blames the Sheriff dept the sheriff dept blames her when it is more likely somewhere in the middle. I’m not voting for her.
Not everyone thinks Hooper is doing a bad job. I heard that mentioned at the meeting in Laquey and from others. I don’t blame her for not wanting to be part of a debate that is organized by someone that is on the PCW. She knows what people think of her that are on this site. I also believe that not everything is her fault. She blames the Sheriff dept the sheriff dept blames her when it is more likely somewhere in the middle. I’m not voting for her.
I agree, I am not just someone on PCW and I look to this site to gain information. I am smart enough to figure out who is supported, or popular, but that won't sway my vote. I think hidding behind the context that everyone hates me is a really poor excuse not to address the voters. I have only lived in Missouri for 7 years and if she allows this site to be the only source of information about her, with no response from her than I guess she really doesn't care about me and by the way that seems to be what people on this board voice the loudest and that does sway my vote.
I've known Mrs. Hooper for a very long time both professionally and socially, so I'm not just someone "on PCW". Even if I was, I'm still a voter and it should matter.
Let's give Jeff credit... he took on Deborah in court defending someone accused of robbing the Lion's Den store and defeated a sitting prosecutor who has been a lawyer almost as long as Jeff has been alive. That should carry some weight. No matter what somebody thinks of the current prosecutor, it shows that Jeff is able to try and win cases against somebody who has been a lawyer for a long, long time.
I had someone ask me a question yesterday about this.
No, I am not making a public endorsement of Jeff Thomas, or for that matter, Kevin Hillman or Wayne Gifford or any other local candidate for any office. I don't get involved in supporting or opposing local candidates barring extreme cases. The Deborah Hooper situation is one of those cases where, as part of my work, I have seen things for the last four years that the general public needs to know about and which cannot be allowed to continue.
Accused criminals have walked free in this county with smiles on their faces because of Deborah Hooper's errors. Want proof? Remember the arson case from a few years ago where the accused arsonist's defense attorney asked the state fire marshal why he didn't take pictures, the state fire marshal said he did, the surprised defense attorney asked where they were, and the state fire marshal pointed to Deborah Hooper and said he gave them to her? After something like that, there wasn't any choice; the jury had to be dismissed, the case had to be started all over again, and dozens of man-hours of firefighters and law enforcement personnel who had driven to Rolla to testify were all wasted for no reason whatsoever except that Deborah Hooper lost key evidence. Fortunately, the state fire marshal kept copies.
Unfortunately, that is not an isolated case. I believe, given her track record of the last four years, that any of her three opponents would be an improvement.
My public challenge to Mrs. Hooper stands. If she, as the sitting prosecutor, can find any law enforcement officer in Pulaski County willing to publicly endorse her and do a sit-down, on-the-record interview with me about why that officer supports her work as prosecutor for the last four years and deserves to be re-elected, I'll interview that officer in-depth and in detail on why that officer believes she is doing a good job.
There are less than eight weeks until the primary election. The clock is ticking on that offer. I suspect I'll be waiting a long time.
It just feels to me like you have an agenda about Hooper, something I read you wrote somewhere.. Therefore it does make you look biased, and not the ideal person to hold the debate. Then again she doesn't come here and defend herself, so you know what I always say, "People don't come here who have something to hide." Not saying she does, but in my opinion it seems strange. I know I'd be in here defending myself if I were attacked. Then again I can just ban them LOL..
Your wrong again, you are making a public endorsement against Deb Hooper, its plain as those glasses on your face that you dont like her and are biased in anything you say that has to do with the Prosecuting Attorney race, its also clear that your with Hillman.
Darrel are you Dave from Radio Shacks long lost brother? If not I bet your besties.
Outside the box: I would like to see someone snatch up Wayne Gifford and send him off to Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and get his wardrobe fixed. I really like Wayne, but his "attire" is just wrong.&^&&(
I would like to clarify... I'm not "holding" the debate. I simply took the initiative to make the arrangements happen. William O. Worsham, Attorney at Law will be the neutral moderator. He is not from this county and has years of experience in all aspects of the law including prosecution and will determine what questions will need to be asked. He will be determining the questions and who is asked what. He does not know any of the candidates, their history or their party affiliation. There will be 5-7 questions that will be provided to the candidates prior to the debate to prepare answers and then several questions that will be submitted from the constituents and the candidates, nor I, will know what those ones are.
I really have nothing more to do with the actual debate other than making sure people are where they need to be and at what time.
B. Kevin Hillman is relatively new to this county, though he has lived here for a number of years. Lots of people outside the legal community don't know him, and while I have had the opportunity to observe his work, not being a "known commodity" is going to be an important problem for a lot of people. He's been a military prosecutor before, but so has Deborah Hooper, and we saw how well that worked out. There are major differences between military and civilian prosecution, the key one being the tremendous fire hose of work civilian prosecutors face, and Kevin needs to answer questions about how he will manage the prosecutor's office and their massive workload. Kevin is also in the Missouri National Guard, and while that's a big positive in my book, some view that as a negative. People need to be aware that he might get called up for active duty and we need to make sure there's a "Plan B" in place in case he's called up. He's been a lawyer in this area for a number of years, though much less than either Wayne Gifford or Deborah Hooper, and the fact that he's worked for Tyce Smith before becoming the St. Robert City Attorney and now also Waynesville Municipal Judge should be taken into account. (Wayne Gifford is also the Crocker prosecutor, BTW, so he also has municipal experience.) He has a track record, though it's thinner than that of Gifford or Hooper. Those who want to vote for Hillman will likely do so because they value experience but believe Gifford is unnecessarily abrasive and Hooper is demonstrably incapable of doing the job.
C. Jeff Thomas is a young lawyer right out of law school, but the fact that he's the son of a local lawyer and grew up in this area can and should carry weight. He also graduated from a law school with a poor reputation, but he's explained to me that he attended that school because he could get through it in one year less than other law schools. That seems like a reasonble explanation to me. Being the son of Jim Thomas is a positive in some people's book and a negative in others, and it needs to be taken into account because unless his father retires, there will have to be many special prosecutors appointed to handle cases in which he or his father were involved as defense attorneys. (That's also an issue for the other two candidates, though it's less of a problem for them because unlike the others who won't have family members currently practicing law, Jeff Thomas' father will still be here in this county and still working.) The major negative against Jeff Thomas is his lack of experience, but the fact is that even with that lack of experience, he was still able to beat Deborah Hooper in a prominent court case. Those who vote for Jeff Thomas will be those who place less value on experience than on knowing the community and being known, and who believe Thomas has proved by beating Hooper in court that youthful energy can be more effective than years in legal practice.
So what's the best answer? That's really up to the individual voters and how much value they put on different types of candidate qualifications.
Two of the three candidates have been prosecutors before and have track records as good lawyers. With the third candidate, people are taking a risk with a young and relatively inexperienced lawyer, but he's already shown himself better than Hooper in the courtroom. And experience is not the sole factor voters should consider: Hooper is the most experienced of all the Republican candidates, but she's had long enough in office to prove she can't do the job. Some people may also say that having a young and aggressive prosecutor who knows the area well is better than having Gifford or Hillman because of specific things about Hillman or Gifford that they don't like.
I've tried to frame the issues, but nowhere in this post have I told anyone how I will vote, other than that as a Republican I will vote in the Republican primary but will cross over to vote for Gifford if Hooper wins the Republican nomination. I sincerely believe a reasonable voter could make an informed decision to support Hillman, Thomas or Gifford, and any of those three will do a better job than the current prosecutor.
Mr. Hillman Sir.
I have a question if you don't mind.
Of all the Jobs that you are doing now, how many will you have to give up if You win your bid for the Pulaski county Prosecutor?
I've been gone from this site for quite a while, but I see nothing has changed. Darrell and maybe some others of you know who I am, so my comments should come as no suprise. I'm not sure why people are concerned about the relationship between law enforcement and the proscecuter. From some things I have seen, Pulaski County lacks a lot in law enforcement expertise. Maybe they don't like being told how to correctly do their jobs, or maybe if they did a better job, the proscecuter could do a better job. My experience with Ms. Hooper is extensive, and while she may not be the slickest lawyer in town, nobody tries harder. I think she is exactly what this county needs.
Thank you, BigEdd... I think your voice is an important one to hear.
Since you noted my name, I probably ought say a few things.
Deborah Hooper has some supporters in Pulaski County; for example, one man spoke up at the Laquey meeting when Hooper was repeatedly attacked and made clear the critics did not speak for him. Some of those supporters of Hooper are crime victims who either had their cases successfully prosecuted or for whom, in the victim's opinion, Hooper did everything she could to help.
There's one area on which I will not criticize Hooper: It's not fair to call her lazy. She works long hours and tries hard. Sometimes she succeeds, and when she does, the victims on whose behalf Hoooper worked hard often appreciate her hard work.
Of course, there are also other cases and other victims who have a different view of the matter.
People speak of this "track record" a lot. Does anyone have any official statistics? How many cases filed, how many tried, how many plea bargained, how many convicted, how many dismissed, etc.? What is her percentage of success compared to previous prosecutors? As far as training LE, if I were the chief of an agency that needed training, I would consider it my responsibility to get the training. I might go to the prosecutor for the training, or I might go elsewhere, like the State. Has anything like that occured? As far as organizational skills, I seem to recall similar comments made about the previous prosecutor. I'm not sure it is a matter of skill as much as funding to hire administrative personnel in the office. We all know the county has money problems.
These are valid questions. I've done some of the statistical work a couple of years ago and printed it on the front page of the Waynesville Daily Guide; more recently others have done similar digging.
YankeeTrader, can you please help here by giving up-to-date info to Ed?
The summary, however, is that Deborah Hooper's track record is horrible.
Things are so bad that when people pay their traffic tickets AND SIGN THE FORM PLEADING GUILTY, at one point Circuit Clerk Rachelle Beasley was having to mail thousands of dollars of money back to the people who had tried to pay their traffic tickets because Hooper had failed to file the tickets within the statute of limitations. The county was at one point risking losing state-funded personnel in the circuit clerk's office because the caseload filed by Hooper had dropped so badly.
Things are somewhat better now, in part because Hooper's actions were so obviously unacceptable that everybody, even her, agreed something had to be done to address the mess.
I realize most of the money from traffic fines goes to other places, but the total number of cases filed **IS** key to showing the state that the number of personnel in the circuit clerk's office is justified. When the county is in dire financial straits, mailing back money from tickets because the prosecutor can't be bothered to file them before the statute of limitations runs out is beyond belief. That's not just a poor management decision, it is incompetence.
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YankeeTrader, can you please help here by giving up-to-date info to Ed?
See also how many bad checks have been prosecuted while she has been in office.
I grew up knowing Wayne Gifford...been in the home many times. He's just as rude now as he was a little boy. Yes, he fights hard for whomever he's hired by....stepping on anyone in the way is nothing to him. Personally, I'd vote for Mickey Mouse rather than him.
Judging by the fact that you were getting divorced, your probably hard to please anyway.
Judging by the fact that you were getting divorced, your probably hard to please anyway.
“Sadly, the jury decided the verdict based upon the evidence placed before them,” Hooper said. “Apparently, they did not believe the victim.”
I am on the laptop this weekend. When I get back to the desktop Monday with my bookmarks I will try to get a summary year to date the way I did last time.
Here are the numbers of criminal cases filed that was requested. The source for these numbers is the Circuit Clerk's office. Draw your own conclusions.
Year Cases Filed Prosecutor
2000 2458 Headrick
2001 2070 Headrick
2002 1823 Headrick
2003 1496 Kriebs
2004 1516 Kriebs
2005 1522 Kriebs
2006 1709 Kriebs
2007 977 Hooper
2008 1022 Hooper
2009 1022 Hooper
These are meaningless statistics. What does the number of cases filed have to do with anything?? The percentage of convictions would be more meaningful. I have never heard a candidate campaign on the number of cases he/she intends to file. Is that what you are running on??
These are meaningless statistics. What does the number of cases filed have to do with anything?? The percentage of convictions would be more meaningful. I have never heard a candidate campaign on the number of cases he/she intends to file. Is that what you are running on??
These are meaningless statistics. What does the number of cases filed have to do with anything?? The percentage of convictions would be more meaningful. I have never heard a candidate campaign on the number of cases he/she intends to file. Is that what you are running on??
Let me respond to your post. I posted these numbers because they had been requested and I was able to get the numbers from the Circuit Clerk's office. I have never stated that I am running on the number of cases I will file. I think I have stated why I am running a number of times on this site, or I would encourage you to check my website for more info on me. I am running because I think I am the best person to bring positive changes to the prosecutor's office and run it in a professional manner.
If you think the current prosecutor is doing a good job and the office is running good, then by all means vote for her. I would challenge you to speak with the law enforcement officer who work with her while they are off duty and get their opinion. I would also encourage you to speak with the other people in the courthouse to see what they think. If they tell you she is doing great, then go with it.
Finally, I will disagree with you that they are meaningless statistics. I think the conviction rate can be meaningless because a prosecutor could file on only cases they know for sure they are going to win. Thus, they will have a 100% conviction rate and 10 cases filed in a year. Do you count plea bargins as a conviction? What about an acquital on the most serious charge and a conviction on something less? Does that count? Those can be easily manipulated. These numbers are the raw numbers and meaningful because either the crime rate dropped by around 40% from 2006 to 2007 or there are not as many crimes being prosecuted in this county.
Crime has definately NOT dropped, the crimes are not being prosecuted......Remember when the Waynesville square was closed off due to the fact a person sent a lady a letter through the mail which included a white substance in it and she took it to the Sherriffs Dept and hazmat, local police, and local surrounding fire stations were called in to start evacuating the surrounding area (on the Saturday during frogfest). NOTHING was ever done about that felony offense, it was just brushed up under the rug, in fact the man that the Order of protection was taken out against actually broke the order over 10 times and still NOTHING was done. Genice, whom is the pulaski county legal advocate was told by Deborah Hooper NOT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE VICTUM (which is an offense to be reported to the legal bar). So she had to move out of the state to protect herself........I think this atrocity speaks volumes. And to even try to get to her, the man that had the Order of protection against him even sent mail addressed from the post master (posing as the post master) and she contacted the post master and the post master didn't know anything about it......In any other state these actions above would be considered felony offences or at least brought up on charges. Maybe it's just me but to pose as a federal official sounds criminal to me. At least the postal service has opened up two federal investigations so maybe something will be done to stop these types of criminal actions.
****And yes Mr Kevin Hillman, I would love to hear some of your positions in cases like this.
Part One | Part One | All Crime | ||||
Year | Rural | All | ||||
2001 | 332 | 819 | 1656 | |||
2002 | 321 | 728 | 1598 | |||
2003 | 240 | 706 | 1555 | |||
2004 | 252 | 714 | 1536 | |||
2005 | 366 | 844 | 2375 | |||
2006 | 373 | 965 | 2067 | |||
2007 | 370 | 959 | 2218 | |||
2008 | 252 | 1199 | 1451 | |||
2009 | 408 | 1913 | 2321 | |||
So as the number of crimes increases the number of cases filled goes down. Doesn't this mean that we are holding more people in county jail at our expense rather than putting them through the system and out of our jail.?? Therefore, Hooper can claim more expense for the county as one of her accomplishments.
InB4 deborah smearing about not attending.......Shooting trials are far more important wouldnt everyone agree?
Ill file your response in the Another person having no idea what it takes to try a case file.
Dear Waynesvillian,
I find it interesting that someone unwilling to display their name would assert that an opinion apparently different than yours is bought and paid for? Nobody on the face of this planet can afford to buy my opinion, which is why I'm not afraid to use my actual name.
Choices for Pulaski County Prosecutor:
As the former Special Agent in Charge of the US Army Criminal Investigation Command (CID) at Fort Leonard Wood, I have had the opportunity to work with and or closely observe the professionalism, effectiveness and other qualifications of many of the attorneys within Pulaski County; consequently, I feel that I should share my observations with my fellow Pulaski County voters. Of course we all have to make our own decisions, but the more facts and information we have to make informed decisions, the better our decisions generally are. I don’t have strong personal ties to any of the candidates and don’t socialize with any of them. The below input is provided for your consideration and is merely based on my personal observations and opinions. Please don’t take anything I say as anything more than my personal opinion, which is designed to offer information voter should research and come to their own conclusions when it comes time to cast your vote.
HOOPER: I can say with relative certainty that most law enforcement officials I’ve worked with in Pulaski County are to say the least disappointed and frustrated by Mrs. HOOPER’s performance in the position she currently holds. She seems to do things her way despite whatever advise or input is offered to her by law enforcement officers, which tends to create a rift between the two communities … this is a huge negative in that police and prosecutors should foster strong working relationships , trust and mutual respect. I think this is going to cost her severely in the upcoming election. I think she has forgotten that she serves the people of this county and that she’s supposed to be part of a team.
GIFFORD: Through all of my experiences with Mr. GIFFORD, he seems very competent as a trial attorney, he has a great deal of litigation experience and is qualified to serve as the District Attorney; however, he is pretty well known for having an abrasive personality, which is not a great trait for any elected official. In my opinion, this attribute of his personality alone gives me pause in voting for him, as I see a strong potential that he will repeat the mistakes of Mrs. HOOPER in doing things his way and forgetting who he serves and that he’s supposed to be a part of a team charged with protecting society.
HILLMAN: I was a case agent at Fort Leonard Wood in the mid-1990s when Mr. HILLMAN was a military prosecutor, and I have to say he was pretty good at his job. He has a good deal of experience and in my opinion is very competent. He is not a native of the Ozarks, but neither am I … I’ve been in and out of the Pulaski County area since 1985, so if this is the criteria for public service neither Mr. HILLMAN nor myself meet it? Having said that, all of my experiences with Mr. HILLMAN indicate to me that he listens to law enforcement, as well as the will of the people and he tends to make well thought out and sound decisions. I see him as someone who can rebuild a strong team between the prosecutor’s office, law enforcement and the people of this amazing county. For these reasons, he’s earned my vote.
THOMAS: By all accounts Mr. THOMAS is a great guy and earnestly wants to do the right thing; however, this time last year he was in law school. In my opinion the District Attorney of any jurisdiction has to have a proven track record as a litigator … they need to intimately understand the ins and outs of the judicial system from a practical rather than theoretical standpoint. We cannot afford to have him make his rookie mistakes as the District Attorney. In my opinion his father’s experience as an attorney no more qualifies him to be a prosecutor than my experience makes my son qualified to be a federal agent.
I hope this helps some of you … all I ask is that we all do our own research and vote based on what we each think is best for the community, not who we grew up with, what party we belong to, or merely what someone else told us. So don’t take anything I’ve said as fact, do the research and come to your own conclusions.
Very Respectfully,
Shaun M. Collins
hahaha If you only knew you would realize how ignorant that statement is. :-) A simple email, all of 1 minute of time, declining is all it would have taken. She has been out door to door lately campaigning so she really has had time to respond. The excuse of a trial is weak at best.
Im confused why you think your owed anything? Actually imo its in hoopers best interest not to attend this debate and let the other 3 candidates lose votes to each other, helping her chances.
I do feel that she owes every one in this county an opportunity to see what she's about, what her skills are and how she thinks she can better this county. We are HIRING her for a job by electing her. So yes I do feel she OWES me the courtesy of telling me why she should get my vote.
I will no longer be addressing you because you are obviously here just to cause a ruckus. You have stated very clearly that you don't care who's elected and as you stated earlier you probably prefer Hooper because won't get in trouble if you get a speeding ticket.
You werent going to vote for her anyway. Dont you work for hillman anyway?
No she does not, She is a professional mom.
JB
Actually that's inaccurate as well. I work in publishing currently formatting books in foreign languages, but I suppose being a professional mom would make sense given the number of children I have. ahaha
Darrell, will Kevin Hillman get the same courtesy of posting his bilingual campaign ad that you are providing for Mr. Thomas? I am going out on a limb here and assume that you will be so as not to present the slant of favoritism.Please read it again HCC.
Roger that Maynard! I was referring to the "link" to the actual ad that Darrell made available to "pass on to any Koreans you may know". I did not see the same links for the Hillman ad that was referenced for dissemination. Or am I missing the boat?Cool.......I gotcha :wink1a: :{:{:
Roger that Maynard! I was referring to the "link" to the actual ad that Darrell made available to "pass on to any Koreans you may know". I did not see the same links for the Hillman ad that was referenced for dissemination. Or am I missing the boat?
Hoopers response to the prosecutorial debate was that they lied and she won't come on the gossip site to defend herself. Her words to me..
It was clear to me she reads this gossip site though.
Here is the link to my Korean advertisement: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=150661&l=47a0d2eff4&id=100000960483143 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=150661&l=47a0d2eff4&id=100000960483143)
Special thanks to Dr. Anne Maurina for helping to translate this for me. Please pass this along to anyone who may be interested.
Also, please come and meet me and have some coffee and ice cream on me tomorrow. 7-9 am at Westside Cafe in Waynesville, free cofee. 2-4 pm Tastebuds in Richland (corner of Hwy 7 and A), free ice-cream.
Who lied? She better not be suggesting that I lied. The debate was done with absolute integrity.
Oh Hooper reads this site with vigor, and makes sure everyone at Westside Baptist knows what slanderous lies are spread about her on this site. That dog don't hunt this election cycle Deborah. The opportunity was your's to make a difference and the fault is at your doorstep.
Cheapster.
Darrell. When you get a break in your otherwise busy schedule, can you hook a brother up and provide the same relief to Mr. Hillman that you gave to Mr. Thomas? I just know it was an oversight, but really Darrell, where's the love?
I'm trying to handle both of the two Republican challengers equally. Jeff Thomas arranged to send me a JPG version of his ad. If Kevin Hillman does the same, I'll post it as well. (CORRECTION -- I now have a JPG of Kevin Hillman's ad and will post it soon.) I'd even take Deborah Hooper's money if she wanted to pay for an ad, though anybody who knows me realizes ad dollars don't affect my coverage of the race in the slightest bit.
I've been accused repeatedly of favoring candidates in this race. I have only one candidate on whom I am taking a stance, and that's Deborah Hooper, who I believe needs to be voted out of office based on her poor performance record for the past four years.
Jeff Thomas, Kevin Hillman, and Wayne Gifford all have pros and cons. Each of them bring different things to the table, and the prosecutor's office will operate very differently during the next four years depending on which of the three is elected. While there will be major differences, I am fairly sure any of them would be competent prosecutors, and I am very sure any one of the three would be better than what we have now.
Im just curious, And Im not bieng snide, But there are also Hispanic, Chinese, Japanese, German, Isreali, Cuban, (just to name a few) Peoples here as well. Why Only a Korean Translation outside of English. Plus I thought you had to Speak and write English to be a citizen of this country? Just Curious. Im not attacking any reasoning. Pure Curiosity.
Pretty sure she meant the candidates.
You da man Darrell! Wasn't casting dispersion's on you about your public support (or lack their of ) of a specific candidate. I was just busting heavy's on you
"Busting heavy on Darrell" is NOT a crime. You are free to go.
JB
Just finished with reading the DG and noticed the ad Thomas has in the paper that professes to outline his "REAL EXPERIENCE". He outlines his experience "SINCE 2008". Really?
Plus I thought you had to Speak and write English to be a citizen of this country?
According to Darrells report on the candidates finance reports and filings of the same, Mrs. Hooper cannot even get that process done with the proper protocol. Good God Deborah, for the sake of humanity (drama point) get on here and explain yourself.
Help us liars and inuendo experts know what you are really all about and what your position is. Please help me sleep at night knowing you are, at least during your lame duck period, on the job handeling the peoples business. Make me understand.
If Hooper can't defend herself how can she defend us :jester:
I need all of your help to make the positive changes you all have asked for. Please make sure you vote tomorrow!
-Kevin
Thanks Pulaski County web for your support. Now we need to set our eyes on November to finish the job. Thanks to all who voted yesterday!
-Kevin
Wonder how the Lame Duck is doing today and what her reaction is? Congratulations Kevin on a resounding win.
Congratulations Kevin. It will be interesting to see how well you and the PCSD work together. I have said recently that it was a he said she said type of deal. I like many others hope that this will be a much better partnership. I also hope as PA that you still be on this site to update the people and to defend yourself if need be. Which I hope you never have to. Now let’s throw some methheads in jail.
Great job Kevin. Now that the primary is over, get to work. Let the games begin. Again, big time kudos to Rick.
Great job Kevin. Now that the primary is over, get to work. Let the games begin. Again, big time kudos to Rick.
I'll still be on here. Maybe Rick can put a thread that is "Ask the Prosecutor a question" or something like that. Remember though, I still have to win in November.
-Kevin
She came into the office at 4am today and has a ton of cases (law day) set for hearrings and reviews today. We have 38 inmates in the jail and all are waiting to go to third floor. It will be a long day.
JB
Just saw in the news that the Prosecutor from Phelps Count (Rolla area) since losing the election has filed very few charges. Her comaprable numbers from last year were around 700 and now are around 100 for the same time period.
heard on the radio that Hooper is now suing the county for over $43,000 in back pay.
heard on the radio that Hooper is now suing the county for over $43,000 in back pay.
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why did she not bring this up til now? Did she not know she was underpaid?