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Pulaski Enquirer / Re: Holy moley
« on: November 19, 2008, 11:42:17 PM »
LOL

While you all are waiting we put up 70 products on ebay today, the rest of my store will go up soon as we can get it up, about 50,000 worth of stuff and my ebay name is guynearfortwood.. Happy shopping..

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Pulaski Enquirer / Re: Holy moley
« on: November 19, 2008, 08:59:12 PM »
LOL.. He crossed a pretty big line and burnt a big bridge.
 
Just had a thought, maybe if he admits to what he got caught doing outside the Elbow Inn...
 
So, Mark can never return?

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Pulaski Enquirer / Re: Holy moley
« on: November 19, 2008, 08:57:05 PM »
Was.. I drink Vodka Diet now.. Montly.. Friday is my night this month.. LOL
 
I never had a drinking problem, I drink, I get drunk, I fall down..
 
I am not a social drinker, I drink to get a buzz.. But I don't drink again for sometime.. The hangover is a wonderful reminder of why I like sober..
 
If I remember correctly, that's Rick's drink of choice.

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Pulaski Enquirer / Re: Holy moley
« on: November 19, 2008, 02:39:15 PM »
It was called, "Not what they expected."
 
One of his complaints to me was it took him an hour to type it and now I read it and find out it was another cut and paste..

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Pulaski Enquirer / Re: Holy moley
« on: November 19, 2008, 04:17:34 AM »
Yes he sent me messages calling me names, but this acusation was posted in the board.. He knew better than to call anyone else a name, he had been warned enough.. This was libelous.. He knew when he posted it he was gone before he hit send.. I just happened to be there looking when he did..
 
He was calling we admins names for removing a thread, I forget the name of it..
 
It went something like this, Imature ___ _____ Admins..
At first I just moderated him for it, then he sent me an email calling me further names and that was the end..
 
I think you all have to agree he had been given many warnings..
 
 
 

Did I mention Mark? Don't remember it. I had not problem with Mark myself. If he started rambling too much for me I just didn't read it. But if sent those kind of messages to admin, then I guess he asked for it.

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Pulaski Enquirer / Re: Holy moley
« on: November 19, 2008, 03:21:55 AM »
He is not moderated for saying bite me.. He made acusations about administrators I won't repeat, and is banned.
 
 
Speaking of Holy Moley;
Mark gets out of hand, saying it like he feels it.  Last comment  he made to someone was "Bite me". 
He is now moderated.
Personally, I think the phrase "Bite me" is hilarious and far less offensive than some of what is posted.
Don't moderate me for that.  It's JMHO.

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Religion Opinion / Re: Real persecution
« on: November 18, 2008, 02:29:27 PM »
Heard the saying. "There are no athiests in Fox Holes?"
 
http://www.atheistfoxholes.org/

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Local News / Condolences to Eeyore..
« on: November 18, 2008, 03:16:00 AM »
Eeyores mother Sally has passed.. Our thoughts are with you and we will be thinking about you for some time.. So sorry to hear of your loss.. No words can make this easier, that I know.. Just know we love you and wish you the best..

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National News / Citigroup to lay off 50,000
« on: November 17, 2008, 01:45:44 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081117/bs_nm/us_citigroup_7
 
NEW YORK (Reuters) Citigroup Inc plans to cut up to 50,000 jobs, CNBC television said on Monday, as souring economies and global credit conditions cause the U.S. bank with the farthest reach worldwide to retrench.
The cuts are on top of the roughly 23,000 jobs Citigroup has already slashed this year, and would leave the second-largest U.S. bank with about 300,000 jobs worldwide.

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Good one, that's funny.
 
 
What kind of world to we live in when good god fearing mean like klansmen get sued for the actions of their brethren? It is a sad sad day when the actions of a few merit the punishment of many.

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I post things on here I think might provoke talk.. That's all.. I thought it was funny that they got sued and lost..
 
FYI. I am not a white supremacist or agree with the idiots..

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Sorry no hidden agenda or conspiracy..
 
 
Is there a reason why you would list the KKK's website, who happens to be recruiting for more members?
 
I hope they do lose their headquarters.... dinosaurs were suppose to be extinct, seems a few in white hooded sheets got away.

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Local News / Vehicle Fire I-44
« on: November 14, 2008, 02:50:10 AM »
In the east bound lane of I-44 at mile marker 161 a School Bus is on fire.. No flames seen but the Bus is filling up with smoke..

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Overkill.
 
 
The flaw here is you go out and buy ammunition for your gun and a thief breaks into you home and steals it then goes out and commits murder and the ammunition is traced back to you because you didn't notice it had been stolen or you didn't report it.
So your convicted and spend the rest of your life behind bars.
Nope its not a good idea :shame:   %%$%$$#

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Understand no disrespect taken.. LOL.. Lighten up Dave..
 
 
There are rarely guns left at crime scenes only bullets. How do you track a bullet to a gun that's not there?
 
 
And you know I meant no disrespect, in both the salesman part and the gun control part.

I just feel that with the ability to track a gun and bullet, there is little need for this law other than to increase libaility on lawful gun owners.  There are bullistic (sp) tests that can track a bullet and track it back to the gun it was shot from.

Yes, if a friend or family member were killed and the crime was not resolved, I would be very upset, but I am not convinced this would have found the killer any more than many other restrictions would have, or even a ban on guns.

Just differences, but I do say them with all respect.

Dave

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All my close friends would agree that calling me a shoe saleman was a stretch because for at least a decade I had not sold one pair.. People used to ask me where I worked..
 
 
To me this isn't gun control.. Maybe I am a sensitive person, but one murder that goes unsolved is one too many for me.. This to me is an attempt to make people responsible for their actions.. When your close friend or family member is gunned down and no murderer is found, then maybe you will change your mind. I also understand that gun control isn't something considered popular for people in your position, considering how passionate people are about their gun control issues.. I think most of the fervor over people against gun control is based on paranoia.. The popular vote is against gun control, so its chances of passing are slim to none..
 
 
 
 
 
Rick, just pretend you are a shoe salesman...I know...a reach.....

Why not code all shoes, track who they are sold to and when the tracks and/or DNA from them is picked up, we have the person that committed the crime, or at least a lead.  I am sure you wouldn't have minded the cost increase.

We could also put specific "grooves" in knives and then code who buys them, again a great way to track people who commit crimes.

Na, sorry Rick, we don't disagree on that much....but this is respectfully one of them.

Dave

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If it helps solve crimes, I like it.
 
 
What do you know about this bill Dave?  What is the stand of Senmator Barnitz?
 
http://www.senate.mo.gov/08info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID=148094

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National Political Opinion / Re: Muslim world reacts
« on: November 13, 2008, 11:52:32 PM »
That's funny.
 
((*(*&  Darrell, you still take me WAY too seriously!

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Lighter News / Re: Man allegedly attacks girlfriend over macaroni
« on: November 13, 2008, 02:22:34 PM »
Macaroni? Wouldn't that fall under justifiable homicide? Better ask Taz..
 
NORTH PLATTE, Neb. %u2013 An unemployed man faces a domestic assault charge after he allegedly attacked his girlfriend last Saturday for making him macaroni for dinner. Investigator Dale Matuszczak said the woman called for help after locking herself in a bathroom.
Matuszczak said she apparently had been hit with a cooking pot, suffering a cut on her nose and bruise on her face.
According to the police report, the man was intoxicated and assaulted the woman when he discovered she made macaroni for his dinner. Food was tossed around the house as he hit the woman with the pot.
The man was arrested and charged with second-degree domestic assault.

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Local News / Re: Commission debates generator
« on: November 13, 2008, 02:08:22 PM »
Is it possible to use the court house tax revenue money they collected and still have from a decade ago to add a few cells to the jail? That would save money.. Or can it only be used for the courthouse? I think I heard it can't, not sure..

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Local News / Re: Commission debates generator
« on: November 13, 2008, 02:03:42 PM »
I think they have proven they don't want to have any input. We already asked for a sales tax and they refused to allow us to vote on it. I see no other option for them other than a sales tax..
 
I am not upset, this is how I act everyday. LOL
 
It seems to me that the tone this thread has taken is counter productive to solving the issues that Pulaski County currently faces.  Instead of everyone getting upset and defending their point of view, it would be more beneficial to get people like Gary, Rick, and other experienced business owners, department heads, retirees, communitly leaders and workers together to brainstorm ideas and research solutions that could be presented to the Commissioners for consideration.  This would only work if those involved are able to be open minded and leave their emotions out of the meetings.

If all we do is bicker and attack each other than we are no better than those we complain about.

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Local News / Re: Commission debates generator
« on: November 13, 2008, 01:47:36 PM »
How independent, can they set their own employees salaries? Do these salaries and insurance come from their own budget? Just curious. By bad on the tax reference, I should have read it closer..
 

A clarification... what I said was this, referring to departments with an "independent funding source," not to separate taxes: "I do believe that the concept of providing the sheriff's department a completely independent funding source that fully funds its operations, similar to what several other departments in the courthouse have for most or all of their operations, is a good tactical move because it would force the sheriff's department to manage its own budget and effectively remove the budget from the control of the county commission."
 
At least two departments have their own independent funding source outside the control of the county commission -- the circuit clerk/recorder of deeds and the assessor's office. They get nearly all of their money from fees and other sources that are completely independent of the general revenue sales tax that funds most of the rest of courthouse operations and from the property tax that funds the road and bridge department. The result is that Circuit Clerk Rachelle Beasley and Assessor Roger Harrison can pretty much run their offices the way they see fit, subject only to the state laws that apply to everybody and not to the additional constraints caused by county financial issues. I'd have to check my notes, but I think Harrison said during his campaign that because of prudent financial management on his end, he's been able to build up a large balance in his department and hasn't gone to the county commission for money from general revenue for many years.

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Local News / Re: Commission debates generator
« on: November 13, 2008, 05:09:36 AM »
JT sued you Gary.. You are a very forgiving person..

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Local News / Re: Commission debates generator
« on: November 13, 2008, 04:50:15 AM »
It is my opinion that this county put the cart before the horse in the past. The first tax that should have been passed was economic development years ago. Building an infrastructure that would support development on the county that would in turn generate the money needed to run the departments without sales taxes. To me the defintion of Economic Development isn't to hire a person, it's to actaully do something to improve the economic climate.. For example adding an outer road from McDonalds in Waynesville Connecting to highway 17 in Buckhorn etc..
 
Darrell which departments in the court house run independently on their own taxes? I am not aware..
 
I also think the tax should be in addition to his existing budget.. The thought that the Commissioners would get more money to use at their discretion would kill the chances of a tax if not worded correctly..
 
 

Two different questions; two unrelated answers.
 
First, Gary Carmack needs to speak for himself on the issue of disbanding the sheriff's dispatchers. That's an important issue for the sheriff, as evidenced by the fact that one of the few things J.B. King and J.T. Roberts both agree on was the need to keep sheriff's dispatchers. I can't speak for J.T. Roberts, but a key part of J.B. King's position on this, as he's said to me in prior interviews, is that he will not leave his sole jailer alone in the jail with two dozen inmates and nobody else in the building, and he believes that since there have to be two people in the building for safety reasons, the second one might as well be a dispatcher. Of course, there are other reasons he cites for keeping dispatchers, but that one seems the most important to me -- unless, of course, the county gets the money to have two jail guards on duty at all times.
 
Second, I'm not trying to "handle" Gary since I don't see my role as actively campaigning for a law enforcement sales tax. As I think you know, when the former Daily Guide editor asked me to write an editorial aggressively advocating for the law enforcement sales tax, I said I didn't think that a published editorial on that subject would help get a law enforcement sales tax passed, and would probably only annoy opponents of the sales tax.
 
I don't feel the same issues apply since I'm no longer a Daily Guide employee, so I feel more comfortable saying publicly today that if I had written that editorial, the gist would have been this:
 
It's obvious the sheriff's department needs more money or it's going to fall apart. I've covered government issues for nearly two decades now, I am very much predisposed against virtually all new taxes because I'm used to seeing tremendous amounts of government waste, and I've only once before in my life seen a county that needed money for the sheriff's department more desperately than Pulaski County.
 
How to get that money is a political question, and a law enforcement sales tax isn't the only option. It just seems to be the only one out there right now that stands a chance of working because is the only method discussed so far that has a realistic chance of raising the necessary money.
 
I do believe that the concept of providing the sheriff's department a completely independent funding source that fully funds its operations, similar to what several other departments in the courthouse have for most or all of their operations, is a good tactical move because it would force the sheriff's department to manage its own budget and effectively remove the budget from the control of the county commission. That's the rationale behind a half-cent sales tax rather than a smaller amount -- a half-cent sales tax would completely eliminate the need of the sheriff's department to get money from general revenue. And an added benefit is that the county commission could say to the sheriff something like this: "You got the voters to give you your tax, now stay out of our hair and stop bothering us for more money. It's now between you and the voters, not between you and us commissioners."
 
That's about as close as I'm ever going to come to advocating for **ANY** position on the mechanics of government (as opposed to economic policy, national defense policy, or social or moral issues). I believe elected and appointed officials are usually more effective than the media in knowing how to handle day-to-day practicalities of governing, and it's their role to do so, not ours.
 
Reporters may have opinions, but barring some special expertise in the reporter's background, we're generalists and the full-time paid administrators are specialists who are more likely to be right than we are about the fine points and details of governance. Most of the time, it's our job to report what they do, not to tell them what they should be doing. There are very few exceptions to that rule, and I think the need of the sheriff's department has become so critical that this is one of those exceptions.
 
Regards,
Darrell Todd Maurina

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Local News / Re: Commission debates generator
« on: November 13, 2008, 04:33:13 AM »
The 911 center and ambulances could run on less too, but they aren't in JB's situation, he actually has way less.. So ummmm, compare apples to apples please..
 
 

 
JB, you can tell these folks all of that, but you and I both know several cars respond to many of the calls. You and I have talked about them responding to unnecessary ambulance calls. You said you was going to correct it. We established a policy. You guys often respond to calls in SR when they have plenty of officers.
 

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Local News / Re: Commission debates generator
« on: November 13, 2008, 04:12:29 AM »
Jb runs the sheriff department excluding the jail on less than the 911 center gets for answering phones.. Is that a fact?
 
Gary would argue that they need every dime, yet argues that JB should function on less.. You do the math and you decide..

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Local News / Re: Commission debates generator
« on: November 13, 2008, 03:49:46 AM »
I read somewhere the word tactfull. I have yet to comprehend it completely, and have real issues responding tactfully to tacky remarks, it brings out my worst. I am glad you have pointed out that his words could use some design changes.. I understand his point about JB and I get that he doesn't think JB is running a tight ship. I don't think he gets that we get that.. I am not arguing with his opinion of JB, I don't work with JB so I don't know how JB runs his ship.. Gary seems mad that we don't agree with him.. How can we when we don't know the whole story? He complains that JB complains over and over about the same subject, yet he does the same thing.. I may not be right about everything, but I sure as hell think I am.. LOL
 
 

I can't speak for Gary Carmack and interpret the specifc words you ask about. I simply don't know. But I can explain what I meant by what I said.
 
Strong language, invective, and severe attacks have a place. There are times such language is understandable; there are times it is acceptable. There are times when it's a good idea, and there are even times when strong language is required.
 
There are also times when strong language is counterproductive because it does more harm than good. There are times when strong language makes unnecessary enemies. And there are times when people who have a legitimate reason to be angry vent their anger at a target who is only tangentially involved.
 
My point is that Gary Carmack is the wrong target for strong language. There are three reasons for that.
 
First, he is making rational and logical arguments -- ones with which I sometimes disagree -- and he deserves to be answered in kind. Prove him wrong by facts, not attacks. There is an important difference. (And by the way, I think he is wrong and have privately told him so already on some of the key points being discussed here publicly.)
 
Second, Gary has no vote in getting a law enforcement tax passed, and he hasn't made an effort to actively fight passage of a law enforcement sales tax. Save your ammunition for people who are actually trying to hurt your cause, and don't make unnecessary enemies.
 
Third, if you spend more time listening to Gary, I think you'll find he could be convinced of the benefits of a law enforcement sales tax. He thinks it won't pass if put before the voters today. With the current economy and the recent failure of several fire district taxes, that's a very legitmate concern. (Personally, I hope he's wrong.)
 
But fearing a tax won't pass is not the same as saying he totally opposes ever putting it before the voters. Gary has supported two taxes that provided independent funding sources for the 911 Board and for the Ambulance Board. Handle Gary right, and he could be a cheerleader for the idea of giving the sheriff's department the tools it needs to do its job and removing its funding from the control of the commissioners. Handle him wrong, and you've made a powerful enemy who might decide to actively fight a law enforcement sales tax instead of just express his opinion that it's likely to fail in the current economic climate.
 
Regards,
Darrell Todd Maurina

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Local News / Re: Commission debates generator
« on: November 13, 2008, 03:24:08 AM »
Lets all go party on a county road, no cops out tonight, and maybe we can catch Full Time Farnham driving the roads..
 
 
 
 
:popcorn1: (((**&^^%
I'll bring the beer!

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Local News / Re: Commission debates generator
« on: November 13, 2008, 03:12:29 AM »
Gary e-mailed me and said "Delete it for me Rick. I never meant that."
 
This was after I e-mailed him expressing my objection to his insinuation I tell lies in this board....
 
I see no need to remove it as it just disrupts the flow of the board.. Besides, you all poped the popcorn, you might as well get to see the show..