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City Government Opinion / Re: What is TIF?
« on: May 14, 2008, 02:24:47 PM »

I know it makes it hard on the other businesses and does seem unfair, but again, we have to remain competitive with other locations. 

Is it possible for the Shriners to do something on the Fields property?

City Government Opinion / Re: What is TIF?
« on: May 14, 2008, 02:02:51 PM »
One more question.. Is the city funding the cost to set up this TIF or the CID? From my recollection these things cost up wards of $100,000.00 to do.

I agree that the developer gets an advantage under TIF, but he also is taking care of a blighted area that no one is going to fix without assistance.  Please keep in mind that Rolla, Lebanon, and the Lake area are waiting with the same type of proposals.  As such, if St. Robert does not stay competitive with those cities by offering incentives, we will lose the new development and that would hurt the exisiting businesses even more.  The Fields property as it exists now is hurting the city and all of the business on Missouri Ave because it is a blighted area.  It is the 1st thing folks see when they come off FLW.
The CID is not meant to help or hurt the Law Enforcement tax issue, we have been working this plan long before that debate came up.  Also, we were in this process when Waynesville came with the pool idea and we could not reveal where we were at that time because of this plan.  We are trying to put into place a mechanism that would allow us to have funding to do something everyone in the community seems to want.  You are right that a lot of things have to come together to make it work, but we are trying.
Again, if anyone wants to look at the plan or see what we are doing, please come by St. Robert City Hall and see me.  I am more than happy to show you.  I am glad that so many folks are interested in what we are doing.
Kevin Hillman, St. Robert City Attorney

City Government Opinion / Re: What is TIF?
« on: May 14, 2008, 01:50:57 PM »
A convention complex is needed, but it will be in direct competition with existing businesses who now offer buildings for large gatherings. These other businesses will not be getting a portion of the taxes back. I'd bet they thnk this is unfair to them. We Shriners are considering building larger facilities to host larger events on our property, do you think anyone would entertain a tax break for we locals?

I believe they are talking about building more of a convention complex rather than a public pool.  I would love to see all the cities and the county entities working together towards meeting the needs of the entire county population.

Maybe if the complex is built someone will then build some family entertainment complexes that would not only attract more visitors to our area but be something for our local families to enjoy.

City Government Opinion / Re: What is TIF?
« on: May 14, 2008, 01:37:18 PM »
It is only a half cent in the Walmart area. I see this as more ammuninition for the Law Enforcement supporters, proving St. Robert isn't as concerned about how much tax anyone has to pay when it comes to their personal growth. It makes it seem they only care about their needs, and none of the needs of the county areas where WE live.. WE the people who are doing our shopping in their city.

There ya additional 1% Sales Tax charged by whatever business(s) move in there.  Same as the St. Robert Blvd. area.....correct??  More ammuntion for LE Tax opponents.

City Government Opinion / Re: What is TIF?
« on: May 14, 2008, 01:23:04 PM »
If this developer is able to keep some of his tax money, and another developer isn't, how is that not unfair to the other developer? He or she is not getting a portion back to improve his or her property.. The local guy who has been developing his mall etc. for years, now has a competitor who is now better funded than he is. Saying he has to pay the same amount of taxes is true, but the new guys getting some of it back. That is unfair to the local guy who spent his life improving your city. I understand the cities position on this, but no one seems to look at that guy who has been here all his life. No matter how it is worded, one has an advantage over another. Business's should have an equal competitive playing field. I might add that the promise of an aquatic center does not an aquatic center make, this promise sounds to me like a veiled attempt to smooth over this plan.
Is the city now not concerned people will shop elsewhere when this areas sales tax is pushed to near 8.5 percent, like they were when the law Enforcement tax was brought up?
I'd like to make it clear that I am not saying I don't support the idea, I just like to make people think a little. There are two viewpoints to every subject.


Rick Lepard
I just wanted to clarify a couple of the comments on TIF financing.  You are right that TIF stands for tax increment financing.  It can generally be used only in a "blighted area."  I do not think there is any question that the Fields Hotel is considered blighted.  It does not abate the taxes for the new business coming into St. Robert in the redevelopment area.  The businesses still pay the same tax rate as all of the other businesses in town so there is no unfair advantage to the new business.  Instead, it funnels a portion of the newly generated property tax and sales tax back to the developer to reimburse him for clean-up costs and costs of the infastructure.  For example, if a property generates $100 in property tax before redevelopment and $1100 after redevelopment, that additional $1000 in new money is subject to TIF.  In the case of the proposed TIF in St. Robert, 75% would go back to the developer and 25% would be "passed through" to the city, county, schools etc.  In addition, 50% of the new sales tax would be subject to TIF as well.  In addition, there will be a CID or community improvement district added in this area.  This would levy an additional 1% sales tax in this area only and that money could be used to build an aquatic center if all goes well.  All of this is subject to what the developer is able to bring in.  If you have any questions about the TIF plan, please feel free to contact me.
Kevin Hillman, St. Robert City Attorney
573-451-2000 ext 1110 or

City Government Opinion / Re: What is TIF?
« on: May 13, 2008, 04:25:26 PM »
Agree.. When The Lowe family wanted to build their new factory here, this communities business people got together and pledged the money to buy their land. I know this because I pledged money. These things can happen here too.. Our cities and county government do not have a plan like this in place though.. Lowe's new boat company still went to Lebanon. I assure you this community, and it's leaders will step up if the need be. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the local government to buy land in the hopes of it attracting factories, there are too many vairiables as to the need of the individual companies. We have one other really huge problem and that is the fact that atleast in our larger cities we have little or no flat land left.. Fort Leonard Wood took our largest ridge ..
I agree, I hate to see locally owned businesses go out of business.  But, I do enjoy some of the new businesses that are coming in.  For instance, I hope Meeks continues to have enough business to keep them operational but I do enjoy Lowe's.  Whatever they have to do to get that eyesore away from the front gate needs to be done.  The Fields family has had 15 years to do something with the property and didn't, now someone may be able to make it not only a nice looking place but a facility that we really need in this community.  I also saw in that article that Lebanon "gives" property to  some businesses that want to build there.  That's a great idea.  Give the the property but make them pay sales tax after they are in business.

Breaking News / Re: IS IT TRUE
« on: May 13, 2008, 03:49:02 PM »
It is the democratic system, that if you were innocent of a crime is in place to protect you. Regardless of the evidence they fall under this category.
I was just informed that the kid that robbed Blacks on Hwy 7 was released from jail....along with his dad tony trotter. Is this true? If so, thats a bunch of bullXXXX.

City Government Opinion / Re: What is TIF?
« on: May 13, 2008, 03:42:36 PM »
Tax Incremental Financing is the term I think. It means one person doesn't have to pay the sales tax, where as another in direct competition with the new entity doesn't get to keep theirs. Some people look at this as unfair, others see it as necessary for growth. Ask Mallows Mallows or Jim's market if they think it was fair to run a business in this community for a life time, and see outsiders come in and get to keep their sales taxes, therefore running the locals out of business.
I am not siding with either side, but offering point, and counterpoint.
I do, however, feel that if you offer it to the new guy or gal it should then be offered to his or her competitors.
I just read the paper where something about TIF may make it possible to build a pool in the old Fields hotel area just outside the gate.  I'm happy about the pool, I just am not sure what TIF is.  I think it has something to do with getting rid of something not bringing in revenue and building something that will and you can get assistance to build the new thing because it is an improvement.  I may be way off the mark here, somebody "splain" please.  Oh yeah, use language I can understand.

Decision '08 / Re: an obama achievement?
« on: May 12, 2008, 08:30:38 PM »
That's a little scary there..
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He has been to all 57 States with one more to go - though his staff would not allow him to go to Alaska or Hawaii

Sneak Peek Sheriff's View / Re: Sneak Peek Sheriff's View
« on: May 12, 2008, 01:31:23 AM »
Yes sir..
Rick I do not know what the problem is but I will send you a copy of this in the morning. Would you please post it and see if we can get this more readable. Thanks.

Tell us your favorite Joke / Bear fights man.
« on: May 10, 2008, 06:11:41 AM »
[youtube=425,350] I1dkZZhAd1k[/youtube] Bear fights man.

Crime Stopper / Re: Skateboarders
« on: May 10, 2008, 01:04:20 AM »
As soon as we started carrying skate boards we had a serious shoplifting problem. Then again, there is good and bad in any group..

Pulaski Enquirer / Re: summer time
« on: May 07, 2008, 03:20:14 PM »

"Us"? How do you know it sounds good to her? lol

Pulaski Enquirer / Re: summer time
« on: May 07, 2008, 03:11:08 PM »
Sounds good to us. LOL

BBQ before kids are in bed...skinny dipping after kids are asleep  ;)

Pulaski Enquirer / Re: summer time
« on: May 07, 2008, 02:49:31 PM »
After putting the kids to bed, it is a little late to be bbqing any how.

I thought we've already concluded that you don't have enough meat? LOL

Pulaski Enquirer / Re: summer time
« on: May 07, 2008, 02:23:36 PM »
Interesting.. I can bring the meat for the bbq...

Like BBQing. (just not my friends, lol) Fishing, floating, anything outdoors. We have a pool now, so can't wait to open that up. Mmmmm late night skinny dipping after the kids are sleeping  ;)

Pulaski Enquirer / Re: summer time
« on: May 07, 2008, 02:12:35 PM »
Fortunately it's not big enough to reach the river either.

who said anything about your hose? use the slip and slide...

Pulaski Enquirer / Re: summer time
« on: May 07, 2008, 02:10:30 PM »
My hose ain't that long..

Thanks for that image Rick! lol ~ Do you land in the river?

Pulaski Enquirer / Re: summer time
« on: May 07, 2008, 02:06:10 PM »
I like to get out the hose, and use the slip n slide.

what is your favorite summer time thing to do? Nothing R rated please... (you know who i'm talking about!)...
mine is fishing and riding the dune buggy~ taking long walks, and just being outdoors!

Restaurant Opinion / Re: Stefano's
« on: May 06, 2008, 06:26:58 PM »
Their Mozzarella Bread Sticks are to die for.. Highly Recommend.

Don't down play your role as the leader of your area of the county. We are proud to have you on our board. You are the voice of reason for the Big Piney area.  Believe me, politicians are scared of the uproar you could create, if need be.

Keep up the good work..

I am really not anyone important.  I am a disabled Grandmother.  I can't drive after dark, and I hate cold weather so I "hibernate" for the winter.  I am able to present my side of an issue in a logical manner, without getting overly emotional when I do it.  I also try to understand all sides of any problem. 

Sports Opinion / Re: Kentucky Derby
« on: May 05, 2008, 01:49:36 AM »
Was he the owner of Birdland? If so, I heard he died from health reasons...
JT, did you know Willie Porter from Birdland?  I wonder what ever happened to him.

So you were found guilty then?
I can tell you what NOT to do:

#1 calling the police is the 1st mistake.
If you have a problem and you call the police then you have 2 problems.
JB Im sorry but my ass still burns after what your crappy dept, diid to me at my own house.
I tried to do everything right and legal by the book and ya`ll put me in jail for NO REASON and I have like 30 people who will testify that what Im saying is true.
YOUR dept lied to me and said some bs law here in Missouri states that if a woman spends the night at your house she is a resident. THATS CRAP! Im not a dummy anymore dude.
And this bullshit of if you drink a beer on my own property and have a loaded gun in your house somewhere(under a bed ,behind a door,in an attic) Im guilty of MSMO!)whatevewr and I go to jail with a felony charge? Mr Im sorry but I dont buy it anymore Im NOT a goofy hillbilly idiot and damn sure aint gonna vote for you and will do whatever it takes to get you unseated. YOU should have stepped into MY situation and dropped the BS charge because if Im guilty then Judge Longs guilty , and everyone in Pulaski County should have to do what ya`ll did to me and Ill never forget this crap! Im out multi thousands for nothing and have a pissant record of drinking a beer while a loaded gun is in my OWN home tucked away after ya`ll went in illegally and searched for it and found it. It caused me so much stress I had a heart attack in your jail and what do you know all of a sudden POOF! Released on my own recog with a $10,000 lean against my property. No sir Im voting for someone that dont piss on people in Pulaski County

Lighter News / Re: Leopard Cubs born in Switzerland
« on: May 02, 2008, 02:25:49 PM »
Might be me, might be her, might be my other name on here, might be any admin..
Ah, I was wondering who that "hidden" person was!

Lighter News / Re: Leopard Cubs born in Switzerland
« on: May 02, 2008, 01:53:31 PM »
Meow.. She's hidden. A sneaky administrator.
Oh, alright, I'll say it.  You're cute and fuzzy too.  But I'm leaving the cuddly part to Desert Sky.  I probably should have left the cute part to her as well, but haven't seen her on lately, and know men hate to be neglected.

Lighter News / Re: Leopard Cubs born in Switzerland
« on: May 02, 2008, 05:08:02 AM »
I was checking out the cubs to see if they resembled me though.
LOL, Rick.  Not saying a word.

Lighter News / Re: Leopard Cubs born in Switzerland
« on: May 02, 2008, 03:10:53 AM »
I didn't do it..
Leonie, ReutersWed Apr 30, 9:42 AM ET Prev 9 of 36 Next Leonie, a female leopard, holds up her seven-weeks-old cub at "Toni's Zoo" in Rothenburg near Lucerne April 30, 2008. The leopard cubs were born in the Zoo on March 13, 2008.[color=#6e6d6d size]REUTERS/Michael Buholzer [/color]

« on: May 01, 2008, 05:03:23 PM »
News Release
Shooting Incident
Pulaski County Sheriff J. B. King
May 1, 2008     0340H

At approximately 9:19pm on April 30, 2008, the Pulaski County Sheriff’s Department was notified of a shooting incident at 24261 Thames Lane in Pulaski County. The residence is located just outside of the City of St. Robert.

Upon arrival at the scene Deputies contacted a number of people who told them a black male subject had been shot. The subject was being driven to the Ft. Wood Hospital in a private vehicle. Member of the Pulaski County detective unit were called out and sent to the Ft. Wood Hospital were they verified that one person had been shot. The victim was then transferred to a Springfield Missouri hospital. His condition is thought to be serious.

At this time the information on this event is limited and the investigation will continue.

Pulaski Enquirer / Re: Tax Refund Dreams
« on: April 30, 2008, 03:04:01 AM »
Shrine.. LOL..
Like I said last year, if you want to keep the Circus coming to town, then get out and support it. The circus did well last year, and that's why they are back again.

Uh OH what kind of circus? :)

Pulaski Enquirer / Re: Tax Refund Dreams
« on: April 30, 2008, 02:39:05 AM »
Shrine Circus is this Weekend at The Shrine Club In Buckhorn.
my dream would be for my whole family to go someplace and be able to enjoy the day and not worry if we could afford it, like silver dollar city