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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #120 on: November 07, 2009, 01:59:14 AM »

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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #121 on: November 07, 2009, 02:23:25 AM »
What the heck is wrong with our leadership?

"We don't know all the answers yet and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts," Obama said."

Jumping to conclusions, hhhmmmmm, you mean something like "the police acted stupidly" when your friend was breaking in his home ??? Guess it all depends on the conclusion jumped to..........

This has got to be the worst President of my lifetime. I saw him on his first press conference after the shooting happened and the first couple of minutes he was bragging on the darn conference he was at and someone that attended. He must just despise the military and what they represent. I need a drink...............
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #122 on: November 07, 2009, 03:16:47 AM »
There is no "jumping" to conclusions.... fact: Major Hasan, Muslim, didn't want to fight against his fellow Muslims, shot and killed his fellow soldiers, wounding many others, counseled soldiers who suffered from PTSD due to service in Iraq or Afghanistan, argued with fellow soldiers over their support of the war, yelled “Allah Akhbar” BEFORE shooting his fellow soldiers......nope, not jumping to anything...fact IS fact.

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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #123 on: November 07, 2009, 03:54:50 AM »
There is no "jumping" to conclusions.... fact: Major Hasan, Muslim, didn't want to fight against his fellow Muslims, shot and killed his fellow soldiers, wounding many others, counseled soldiers who suffered from PTSD due to service in Iraq or Afghanistan, argued with fellow soldiers over their support of the war, yelled “Allah Akhbar” BEFORE shooting his fellow soldiers......nope, not jumping to anything...fact IS fact.


I told you there was a lot that we agreed on! 

Another thought about this..... how about being a soldier coming home from war after attempts on your life by Muslim "extremists" and being counseled by um .... a Muslim extremist.
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #124 on: November 07, 2009, 06:03:07 AM »
I told you there was a lot that we agreed on! 

Another thought about this..... how about being a soldier coming home from war after attempts on your life by Muslim "extremists" and being counseled by um .... a Muslim extremist.
Go one step further.... suffering from PTSD, having a Muslim extremist counseling you, AND writing reports that you have to rely on for disability!  Wonder how the military, or VA are going to use his reports?  Did he put down in their medical records what was really going on, or his extremist views of those that were in conflict with "his Muslim brothers"?  How many of my comrades are going to be denied benefits and help, because a Muslim extremist felt they were in the "wrong", and gave them erroneous diagnosis just so they couldn't make a claim?
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #125 on: November 07, 2009, 07:05:43 AM »
Go one step further.... suffering from PTSD, having a Muslim extremist counseling you, AND writing reports that you have to rely on for disability!  Wonder how the military, or VA are going to use his reports?  Did he put down in their medical records what was really going on, or his extremist views of those that were in conflict with "his Muslim brothers"?  How many of my comrades are going to be denied benefits and help, because a Muslim extremist felt they were in the "wrong", and gave them erroneous diagnosis just so they couldn't make a claim?

Good points!  I don't have the exact quotes but I do remember reading that he had to be "counseled" about his rapport with his patients at Walter Reed.
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #126 on: November 07, 2009, 01:35:26 PM »
I heard news reporters on tv referring him to the "alleged" shooter.  When you see someone doing the deed are they still alleged.  Call him what he is a murderer.
 
Also a spokesperson for the muslim religion was on tv this morning telling how he had been harrassed by fellow soldiers for being muslim.  So that will be his defense.  Someone called him a name so he killed 13 people and shot 30+ more.  Sounds like a good defense to me. ???
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« Reply #127 on: November 07, 2009, 03:04:38 PM »
Let's see....I was the only Jew in my unit for a long time, had to work on the holiest day of the Jewish calendar, had NO on Post Rabbi, heard all the "Jew jokes", then got out and because of a prejudice Doctor (I have the actual medical report (from that Doctor) that noted, numerous times, I was a "Jewish" female, which had NOTHING to do with my gallbladder!) I suffered with a bad gallbladder from Sept. 1977 until May 2000 (yep, almost 23 years, because he felt I was a "nervous Jewish female" and thus faking it!).... I didn't kill one single person, including that a$$hole Doctor!

Now, Muslim shrink, possibly teased about his religion, and he killed and wounded dozens.  Yep, sounds like he has one hell of a case for his defense!  IF, by any chance, he uses such a defense and our military allows him to get a shorten sentence, or puts him in a mental hospital, then there is no doubt that this Country has lost it's b@lls!
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« Reply #128 on: November 07, 2009, 04:55:18 PM »
I saw the interview with the soldier who said he was harrassed and there was alot more to it. He said the military was good about taking care of the problems and that he would welcome more background checks into Mulims in the Military. He felt the Muslim religion was bieng hijacked by extremists . He was not defending what happened or the man who did it,

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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #129 on: November 07, 2009, 06:08:32 PM »
I saw the interview with the soldier who said he was harrassed and there was alot more to it. He said the military was good about taking care of the problems and that he would welcome more background checks into Mulims in the Military. He felt the Muslim religion was bieng hijacked by extremists . He was not defending what happened or the man who did it,
"A lot of us work very hard for this country, to make America a better place," said Muqtedar Khan, a progressive Muslim scholar who has just given Congressional testimony on U.S. foreign policy in Afghanistan before Thursday's attack. "And this one nut like Maj. Hasan comes along and in one crazy episode of a few seconds he undermines these years and years of hard work we are doing to make American Muslims part of the mainstream in the community."
This quote is right on target.
 
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #130 on: November 07, 2009, 08:38:42 PM »
I saw the interview with the soldier who said he was harrassed and there was alot more to it. He said the military was good about taking care of the problems and that he would welcome more background checks into Mulims in the Military. He felt the Muslim religion was bieng hijacked by extremists . He was not defending what happened or the man who did it,

The interview I saw was a muslim woman and it said she was a spokesperson for some muslim group.  It was not a soldier.
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