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Author Topic: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????  (Read 19708 times)

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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #60 on: July 29, 2008, 12:56:14 PM »

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Mr. Blissfull, your analysis makes the asumption that the E-3 is married - I assume because it gives them more money to consider - this also skews the analysis - one can assume the 'average' E-3 is 18,19, maybe 20 - and the vast majority of that age demographic is not going to be married.
 
However, going with your assumption, please do keep in mind, your police officer is not required to tear his family apart for 12,15, or 24 months at a time, come home long enough to 'almost' re-assimilate and then do it again.
 
It is a comparativley rare occurance when a police officer is killed in the line of duty - one canot say that for a Soldier - we are a nation at war, after all.  People are quick to state there is a 'war on crime' in our streets - I'll go with that (meaning I do not disagree) but the casualty rate is comparativley low, and after fighting that war for 8-10 hours the police officer pulls up to his dinner table and asks the family how their day was.
 
Police officers will do thier job for 8,10 hours and go home.  A Soldier will do their job when, where, and how told - they will not necesarily go home at the end of the day.  They will spend many a holidays staring at the top of a tent wondering where his family is, and what they are doing, and if they miss him as much as he misses them.
 
Soldiers do not have a union to look out for them and represent them.
 
Soldiers volunteer for all of the above - that is understood - what most seem to overlook is they are voluntering on the premiss that they will be entitled to certain pay and benefits - its part of the package, it is available to all yet so few (% of our population) choose to do it - if the pay is all that, why then does only 3-5% of the US population (including territories) choose to do it? 

These are apples and oranges, but I do tire of the comparisons. 
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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #61 on: July 29, 2008, 01:46:44 PM »
Well said SC!!  I get sick and tired of people comparing LE and other ES with the military members.  There IS NO comparrison, PERIOD!
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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #62 on: July 29, 2008, 01:52:29 PM »
Not to mention, this is all choices. The soldier chooses to be a soldier, maybe for patriotic purposes, or because of the benefits, for college or other. The police man chooses his profession. Same cop could have been a soldier. Should we get down on the Doctor who did 8 years of college and compare him against the high school drop out because his lifestyle is better than a drop outs, and complain that the Doctor is living too well. The drop out made that choice. We all make choices in our life, and we have to live with it. I chose the Army in 1977 because I saw no future in my life where I was at. For me it was the right choice. My best friend went on to school, and is living much better than me because he is a scientist. I don't compare or bitch that he gets more than me; I made that choice a long time ago. I decided to retire when I was on the E8 list and everyone told me I was primed to make Sergeant Major. I saw civilian job opportunities then that now don't exist. I retired, and now have a good Civil Service job. Those that decided to stay in now are sweating it out as the job market for positions like mine are not so easy to get now. Again, choices. So don't compare one person who serves in the service to another who serves the community and complain itís not fair. Everyone had a choice where they were going to end up, and if you are not happy with where you are, complain about making a bad choice.
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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #63 on: July 29, 2008, 01:53:57 PM »
As far as choices, it would be interesting to know:
1) How many of those police/deputies served 3-4 years in the military then chose to give up those benefits to pursue their dream of being in LE.
2) How many are retired from the military and their benefits and retirement make up the difference.
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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #64 on: July 29, 2008, 03:51:42 PM »
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To most of the last few posts.
 
Choices, anybody who complains about the military benefits go join the military and get a paid vacation to the middle east as one of your benefits.
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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #65 on: July 29, 2008, 05:50:21 PM »
my final .02 on the matter -
 
aren't there a lot of eateries here locally where the police and sheriff officers receive deeply discounted meals?
 
don't hear anyone complaining about that - and I 'spose I could whine that it's unfair a Soldier and their family pays more (going back to the original complaint) - but I understand certain perks and benies go with any job - and by God it's a great thing they can have a little change off their meal ticket...
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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #66 on: July 29, 2008, 06:42:18 PM »
     First off - I just called Lowe's St Robert and asked them -----  She told me that they ONLY offer a military discount on July 4th and Memorial Day.
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     My guess is that things cost more here because of the installation - but not because of your average soldier -- there are a lot of people employed on FLW that are contractors and are civilians, and are instructors, and you name it --- Rolla and Lebanon do not have this installation or employee base and so the store does not think the folks can pay as much.  I remember before we had a LOWE's we were price comparing for bathroom hardware (towel bars and such) between Rolla and Osage Beach -- and Rolla was a LOT cheaper.
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Thanks folks for saying most of what I wanted to say but . . .  - sometimes don't feel I can cuz if you get me started well . . .  :rant:   There is this voice in my head talking about "a 24 hour rule"  :)  Hi voice.

     I don't begrudge anyone any discount/benefit that they receive for a group they are a part of - whether it is for employees, "ladies day", children of fallen (firefighter, police, etc) college scholarship, free car washes to cars painted in the local university colors, whatever it is --   It is up to the business or fund raising organizations to do this and if they wish to say thank you - great.  If they wish to use the discount to encourage these groups of people to shop at their establishment and compete - that's fine too.   
      I think it is wonderful that the emergency services folks get rush service and perhaps free food while on duty (or not) --- And if I have to wait for their meal to be made before mine -- so be it --- they never know when that pager is going to go off or when that scheduled meal time (if there is one) is going to be cut short by a shooting or car accident or whatever.  I've even been places and watched these folks eat out of to go boxes so they could run when the beeper went off.     
     Does it make me mad?  No they give up a lot while on shift and off to keep my family safe here in this community.  And it is the businesses choice.     
     Am I complaining?  No!  If a business chooses to take a hit on the bottom line to offer a group a discount - let them do it.  A lot of times it is used to edge out the competition as well.
     If someone gets a discount or rush services - Attorneys on the square, Doctors near a hospital, soldiers near post, Emergency Personnel whatever the group while they are on duty -- Where are they going to shop/eat/do business when off the clock or after they retire?  Chances are if the product is the same quality --- with the one that treats them while on the clock. 
      If a fast food restaurant gives their senior parents a discount or free coffee - they may go there even when the parents are not along just to say thank you ---
     So that discount can actually generate higher sales.  It can be a good business decision.
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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #67 on: July 30, 2008, 02:44:25 AM »
i really dont complain about alot of the prices in st bobs because i usually leave my complaints for some towns that only have 1 grocery store and charge an arm and a leg because they have no compatition. i went to richland the other day and bought a small bag of best choice great northern beans and they cost me 5.45! never again will i shop there.
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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #68 on: July 30, 2008, 03:36:36 PM »
Good try Kathy, trying to get them back on topic but it didn't work.  C'mon guys make a new thread.
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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #69 on: July 30, 2008, 03:42:53 PM »
I did.  It's in the military opinion.
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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #70 on: July 30, 2008, 03:44:03 PM »
thanks coyote, ok now back to why SR residents get ripped off!
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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #71 on: July 30, 2008, 03:45:04 PM »
I was just reading the Gascosage paper and it has a list of all the rebates they give for water heaters, etc.

Also, they have a CFL program, take in a canned good and receive 2 compact fluorescent light bulbs - 10 per month per member.

Good deals!
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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #72 on: July 30, 2008, 03:48:46 PM »
"Yes Mom"  ;)--- things sure did drift from last night --- I moved the "new" topic over to "Military Benefits, different than when you joined?"  Please look for them there.
thanks coyote, ok now back to why SR residents get ripped off!
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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2008, 05:28:16 PM »
I know 1 business in St. Roberts that does not rip people off, As a matter of fact this place has the best prices I have found around and has products that really do last and that would be....Lepards Shoe. I have a 13 year old son that is really rough with shoes and the shoes we got there has lasted and lasted. 
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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #74 on: July 31, 2008, 01:06:58 AM »
i really dont complain about alot of the prices in st bobs because i usually leave my complaints for some towns that only have 1 grocery store and charge an arm and a leg because they have no compatition. i went to richland the other day and bought a small bag of best choice great northern beans and they cost me 5.45! never again will i shop there.


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Re: Why are St Robert Residents ripped off by local businesses????
« Reply #76 on: July 31, 2008, 01:11:57 AM »
Oh didn't see this, thanks..

I know 1 business in St. Roberts that does not rip people off, As a matter of fact this place has the best prices I have found around and has products that really do last and that would be....Lepards Shoe. I have a 13 year old son that is really rough with shoes and the shoes we got there has lasted and lasted.