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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2008, 06:42:32 PM »
Yeah. Republicans are one to talk. How many one on ones has Palin done since Katie Couric? Maybe a couple with Fox. When was the last time she went in the lions den? She hasn't been on MSNBC yet. Has she talked to Brian Williams yet? How about without a baby sitter?
 
Why would they go back on and talk to her? Even if she had asked softball questions, they don't have time to go talk to small network people multiple times. Who is that lady? What station does she anchor for? How many people do you think watch her show? I am sure it isn't enough to care about going on her show a second time with just a few weeks left.
 
 
And how does that have to do with freedom of the press? I don't see your point.
 
 
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2008, 06:47:16 PM »
The point is, she quoted Marx and then asked Biden a hardball question.  He was expecting something he could get out of and instead asked if it was a joke.  He had no answer, because an answer would have been a bold faced lie.  She was correct in her assertion and the Obama camp cannot tolerate honesty on this particular subject.  It is also a glimmering of what could happen if hard questions are asked by the press IF he becomes President.

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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2008, 06:50:48 PM »
Yeah. Republicans are one to talk. How many one on ones has Palin done since Katie Couric? Maybe a couple with Fox. When was the last time she went in the lions den? She hasn't been on MSNBC yet. Has she talked to Brian Williams yet? How about without a baby sitter?
 
Why would they go back on and talk to her? Even if she had asked softball questions, they don't have time to go talk to small network people multiple times. Who is that lady? What station does she anchor for? How many people do you think watch her show? I am sure it isn't enough to care about going on her show a second time with just a few weeks left.
 
 
And how does that have to do with freedom of the press? I don't see your point.
Two questions..... has she REFUSED an interview, or has the McCain Campaign contacted the press and informed them that they will not have the opportunity for further interviews?
 
In all fairness, it was reported that McCain did cancel an interview on a cable network, when it was felt questions concerning Palin were unfair, when posed to someone on the McCain campaign.  I don't recall them sending notification that they will not have the opportunity for futher interviews!
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2008, 06:52:13 PM »
The point is, she quoted Marx and then asked Biden a hardball question.  He was expecting something he could get out of and instead asked if it was a joke.  He had no answer, because an answer would have been a bold faced lie.  She was correct in her assertion and the Obama camp cannot tolerate honesty on this particular subjectIt is also a glimmering of what could happen if hard questions are asked by the press IF he becomes President.
My thoughts exactly........
 
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2008, 07:38:32 PM »
"When you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody," Barack Obama explained to Joe Wurzelbacher in Ohio .
 
It looks like Obama may be following Karl Marx.....
 
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2008, 10:30:51 PM »
Freedom of the press?


And arguing socialism in today's age of golden bailouts paid for by taxpayers.

Its like the Bush administration never existed.
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2008, 11:08:42 PM »
Freedom of the press?


And arguing socialism in today's age of golden bailouts paid for by taxpayers.

Its like the Bush administration never existed.
I may be wrong, and please correct me if I am, but didn't Obama vote "yea" on H.R. 1424?  Did Obama offer another solution? 
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2008, 12:21:36 AM »
The democratic congress (the majority) voted to pass it.  So let's talk about socialism.  Yeah W signed it too.  Seems Obama and Obiden are pushing the agenda even more and they resent it when they are called on it for what it is.  I am sure they will continue to do so if they get into office.  No hard questions allowed.  Especially those requiring an answer they don't want to give.

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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2008, 09:50:42 AM »
The socialism question was aimed at Obama's tax plan? You say it is socialist, but you don't provide how. Alaska taxing the oil companies to give a check to Alaskans every year is socialism. Obama's tax plan isn't socialism. All he is proposing is that we raise the taxes on the wealthy, and lower taxes for everyone else. How is this socialism?
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2008, 12:41:03 PM »
Ok, let me provide HOW.  His intent is to raise taxes on EVERYBODY and then "spread the wealth" to those who earn NOTHING.  Goes back to Karl Marx I believe.

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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2008, 02:49:30 PM »
When and where did he say he wants to give the money to people who don't earn it?
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2008, 02:55:06 PM »
If you earn 12.00 per hour and I earn 8.00 per hour, they take 1.00 from you and give to me....did I earn that 1.00?

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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2008, 03:02:04 PM »
No and I want my dollar back Dave. ###$%%^&
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2008, 03:08:53 PM »
If you earn 12.00 per hour and I earn 8.00 per hour, they take 1.00 from you and give to me....did I earn that 1.00?

Dave

It isn't like that at all. It is just changing the tax code to allow people who aren't wealthy to pay less taxes. Sure the way they do that is by making the wealthy people pay more taxes, but that isn't redistributing the wealth. That is just taking less money from people who can't afford it.
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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2008, 03:13:47 PM »

It isn't like that at all. It is just changing the tax code to allow people who aren't wealthy to pay less taxes. Sure the way they do that is by making the wealthy people pay more taxes, but that isn't redistributing the wealth. That is just taking less money from people who can't afford it.

Well, you said that the wealthy will pay more taxes and those making less are going to not pay as much.  But he said that people will be getting a rebate under his plan, meaning gettings something back.  I think my very simple example is what they are doing.  As a matter of fact, people not paying taxes at all are going to be getting money from his plan.  He has had many opportunities to deny that and never has.
 
Now, if you support that, hey that is as you know your right.  I just disagree with that way of handing money out.
 
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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2008, 03:31:38 PM »

Well, you said that the wealthy will pay more taxes and those making less are going to not pay as much.  But he said that people will be getting a rebate under his plan, meaning gettings something back.  I think my very simple example is what they are doing.  As a matter of fact, people not paying taxes at all are going to be getting money from his plan.  He has had many opportunities to deny that and never has.
 
Now, if you support that, hey that is as you know your right.  I just disagree with that way of handing money out.
 
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I'll settle it... how about if everyone just sends me $1.00 each week from their pay checks! 
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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2008, 03:33:11 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2008, 03:40:28 PM »
Ok.  about 40% of the people pay no income tax.  So lowering the tax rate would have not effect. What they said was that these people would get a tax credit and therefore a refund check.  I'm not sure how much clearer they can make it.   Its been on the news several times.

Daves simple example is exactly what they say they are going to do.

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Obama Bombshell Redistribution of Wealth Audio Uncovered
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Wow, I think it gives his agenda......
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Wow, I think it gives his agenda......
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2008, 03:59:23 PM »
Ok.  about 40% of the people pay no income tax.  So lowering the tax rate would have not effect. What they said was that these people would get a tax credit and therefore a refund check.  I'm not sure how much clearer they can make it.   Its been on the news several times.

Daves simple example is exactly what they say the are going to do.

His tax plan specifically says workers and working couples.
 
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"There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God almighty Himself hates with you, too. Where's evil? It's that large part of every man that wants to hate without limit, that wants to hate with God on its side." - Kurt Vonnegut

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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2008, 04:17:07 PM »
Yes and just because you work does not mean you pay income tax.  From last years tax If you are married you get a $10,700 deduction and if you make less than $117,300 you get a another $6,800 deduction.  So just these two smiple deductions are $17,500 right off the top before you start to calculate income tax.  Remember this is income tax and excludes FICA , workmans comp,  medicare etc.

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I did a test of share the wealth…..

Yesterday on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read “Vote Obama, I need the money.” I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08″ tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference–just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved the money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

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I did a test of share the wealth…..

Yesterday on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read “Vote Obama, I need the money.” I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08″ tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference–just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved the money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

If you’re a Democrat, vote your heart. If you’re a thinking person…well, you know. Vote for the lesser of the two evils.
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I did a test of share the wealth…..

Yesterday on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read “Vote Obama, I need the money.” I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08″ tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference–just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved the money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

If you’re a Democrat, vote your heart. If you’re a thinking person…well, you know. Vote for the lesser of the two evils.

I went to a restaurant in Alaska.  There were 20 people in there.
 
I told them the story of how you screwed over the hard working waitress to make a political point.
 
They loved how Palin increased the taxes on the oil companies and re-distributed all that wealth to each and every Alaskan citizen, how their yearly government payout increased from about $2000 a year to $3200 a year under Palin's tax and redistribution of wealth.
 
They all chipped in $10 to send to the waitress.
 
They figure, while the Republicans are trying to scare people with their horror stories of what Obama might do, they are living proof of the socialism that Palin enacted as governor of Alaska. 

Then we went to some whacko seccessionist meeting where a picture of Todd Palin hung above a sign calling for the seccession of Alaska and the retention of ALL oil profits.
 
I knew then that Alasksa is one whacky state.
 
They all benefit from the socialist redistribution of taxing the wealthy yet have a governor travelling the country accusing Obama of being a redistributer of wealth, a socialist, as if it is something she has fought against.
 
She increased the taxes on oil companies and paid that money, in cash, directly to the citizens of Alaska.
 
And Obama, who hasn't done anything like that yet, is the great socialism/marxist evil.
 
Right.
 
Makes perfect sense in retard world.
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« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2008, 08:43:47 PM »
You did all of that in less than an hour?  Dude - you simply ARE amazing.

And no, Obama hasn't done anything like that.....YET.  It's the yet and probability factors that he WILL that bother me.

Same old drum beating - secessionist, oil wealth, etc.  Nothing new.  No hope, no change.

Again, you do not make a good case for your Chosen One.

BTW, you can call me or imply anything you want about me (retard world).  Again, your approach in these issues do not speak well of the camp:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Name-calling
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King Abdulaziz ibn Saud...circa 1930
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« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2008, 08:46:43 PM »
Why?  WHY?  Why do you all seem the need to post these things and me read them right after taking a sip of soda? ???  My nose just can't handle this burn!!!  lmao  BTW, I am a Democrat and I am voting with my heart.... for my Country, John McCain!

LOL - sorry.  And, I wish it was original - I plagarized it....just thought it too funny not to.  On the funny note, it is intriguing to see the other side jump on it.  To the point of personal attack once again.   :poke:   :th_thkarate: :th_thbeer1-1: :th_thicon_super:
"In order to be a leader of men, a man has to receive an education in his own country, among his own people, and to grow up in surroundings steeped with the traditions and psychology of his countrymen.  Not only did Western education not fulfill that condition, but it tended to wean a young man from the traditions and customs of his country."

King Abdulaziz ibn Saud...circa 1930
Cited by Ronald Lacey in "The Kingdom:  Arabia and the House of Saud"