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nobama is trying to start a civil war
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Re: nobama is trying to start a civil war
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2009, 12:53:29 AM »
I want to start a civil war against the city of Chicago. Will you enlist in my militia, Fish? The uniform of the day is piss on the cubs. Must provide own uniform. I am sure I can find supporting documentation.
I have it on good authority that the Hokey-Pokey really IS what it's all about.

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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2009, 01:05:23 AM »
my wife is from there,she likes the cubs. the war at home might be worse,LOL

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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2009, 01:15:23 AM »
Sorry for your state of affairs, alas. But I can get you the t-shirt.
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2009, 01:23:45 AM »
 where would I wear it?

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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2009, 01:24:54 AM »
ANYWHERE IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI!!!!Plus even the south side of Chicago, lol
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2009, 01:54:14 AM »
anywhere but home,but then I hide shirts she has been trying to get rid of and hasn't found. I could wear it under a shirt for that warm feeling? I can tolerate the cubs, but I hate the blackhawks!

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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2009, 04:12:36 AM »
All right, fish. Let's get on with this conversation. Why exactly do you think there will be a civil war? I have to hear this. It's bound to be good...humorous at least.
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2009, 10:11:42 AM »
link didn't work for me. It downloaded 1.94 of 1.95mb and then locked up.
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2009, 11:16:57 AM »
I might be wrong, but I think this is the same doc:

http://wnd.com/images/dhs-rightwing-extremism.pdf
"In order to be a leader of men, a man has to receive an education in his own country, among his own people, and to grow up in surroundings steeped with the traditions and psychology of his countrymen.  Not only did Western education not fulfill that condition, but it tended to wean a young man from the traditions and customs of his country."

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Re: nobama is trying to start a civil war
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2009, 11:30:01 AM »
how exactly have you come to the conclusion that this document is going to start a civil war?  i love the alarmist headline you use and then fail to offer any explanations....   did you even read the document?
 
 
 
 
 
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/14/extremism.report/index.html
 
 
 

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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2009, 12:43:02 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2009, 01:07:05 PM »
 No one was labeled anything in that report... It did not say "all veterans will join an extremist group".
 
Recruiting returning vets: “Rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat.”
 
 
The report speculated, based on data from previous economic hardships, that extremist groups will try to recruit people who fall in to these categories. It does not say that all those people would be willing to join, or that they should all be put on some sort of terrorist watch list because they fit the profile....
 
seriously...    tell the whole story, not just your unfounded fears about what might happen. it's very misleading to those who dont think for themselves as it is...
 
"left wing fear mongering" ....   lol   pay close attention to the following quote now...
 
"But conservative radio talk show host Roger Hedgecock was not persuaded. "If the Bush administration had done this to left-wing extremists, it would be all over the press as an obvious trampling of the First Amendment rights of folks and dissent," he told CNN.
In fact, the Obama administration in January did issue a warning about left-wing extremists. Both reports were initiated during the administration of former President George W. Bush. "
 
 
hmmmm?  left wing, eh?
 
 

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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2009, 01:13:49 PM »
Question:
 
  Am I the only one who even bothered to read the report? It was only ten pages... the font was pretty big too.... so it was really only like 4 pages...             
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2009, 01:23:25 PM »
It seems only we Conservatives are a threat. My God Hussein and his cabinet speak more highly of the iranians than they do of our Vets or Conservatives. They screw our brave veterans and embrace the illegals. There is something wrong with this picture.   There is no statistical data to prove ANY of this tripe.
Where is the mention of the gangs joining the military so they can come back and train their homies? They keep mentioning McVeigh.  First he is DEAD.  Second he was one of about 42 million coming back from the first sand box war.  They are simply preparing the already braindead with this so they can try to justify further infringements on our rights as citizens.

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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2009, 03:13:29 PM »
It seems only we Conservatives are a threat. My God Hussein and his cabinet speak more highly of the iranians than they do of our Vets or Conservatives. They screw our brave veterans and embrace the illegals. There is something wrong with this picture.   There is no statistical data to prove ANY of this tripe.
Where is the mention of the gangs joining the military so they can come back and train their homies? They keep mentioning McVeigh.  First he is DEAD.  Second he was one of about 42 million coming back from the first sand box war.  They are simply preparing the already braindead with this so they can try to justify further infringements on our rights as citizens.

You are just looking for any excuse to shoot fellow Americans.
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2009, 03:17:40 PM »
You are full of crap.  Read my post and tell me where I threatened anything of the kind.  I am only showing the fear mongering left trying to set up propaganda so they can form their idea of utopia.

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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2009, 04:19:26 PM »
The part I found the most disturbing is the 2nd portion of the definition of extremism:

(U) Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.

Anti-government being the key word.  i.e. if you don't agree and chose to do so openly, you could be labeled a right wing extremist.  I have issues with both abortion and immigration laws, but have no intention to impose my issues in a violent manner - still yet, perception is at the advantage of the government and I am at a disadvantage until proven otherwise.

Yes, I read the whole document - twice now.
"In order to be a leader of men, a man has to receive an education in his own country, among his own people, and to grow up in surroundings steeped with the traditions and psychology of his countrymen.  Not only did Western education not fulfill that condition, but it tended to wean a young man from the traditions and customs of his country."

King Abdulaziz ibn Saud...circa 1930
Cited by Ronald Lacey in "The Kingdom:  Arabia and the House of Saud"

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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2009, 04:41:11 PM »
Documents like this get leaked as this one did.  All this does is further divide us as a country, not to the extent of a civil war, but could delay progress and hope, but will certainly bring change to this nation of cowards.
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2009, 05:37:45 PM »
Danos, many of us are united. 

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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2009, 06:17:46 PM »
Danos, many of us are united. 

Yes we are.
"In order to be a leader of men, a man has to receive an education in his own country, among his own people, and to grow up in surroundings steeped with the traditions and psychology of his countrymen.  Not only did Western education not fulfill that condition, but it tended to wean a young man from the traditions and customs of his country."

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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2009, 01:53:56 AM »
you betcha!!

napolitano says she stands by the report.
 this came out after the miac report. coincidence? no wonder people are buying up guns and ammunition.

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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2009, 04:45:17 AM »
Danos, many of us are united.

United in what? Why weren't freethinker and I invited? You guys "planning" something?
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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2009, 01:00:07 PM »
We are united in our thoughts.  No planning is needed or required.  We are not up to anything.  Please see where the DHS secretary "apologized" to the troops.  Really backhanded at best and not really an apology at all.  The information will remain out there as disseminated.  She and her underlings are truly traitors.

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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2009, 04:02:52 PM »
We are united in our thoughts.  No planning is needed or required.  We are not up to anything.  Please see where the DHS secretary "apologized" to the troops.  Really backhanded at best and not really an apology at all.  The information will remain out there as disseminated.  She and her underlings are truly traitors.

No, she was right, and your reaction proves it.
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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2009, 08:58:24 PM »
Proves what Winston?  That there are patriots out there disapproving of the increasingly large government?  That there are many who actually think for themselves and didn't drink the kool aid?  That they are just looking for a way to create paranoia among the masses so they can divide this country instead of keeping it united?  That there are still people believing in and supporting the Constitution as written and intended and don't support those bastardizing the document?  Think Patriot Act under Bush.  Think Patriot Act under Obama....He didn't do anything to get rid of the kind of power it could give him.  Think of Northern Command under Bush and Think Obama training them to overtake the American Citizens when they object to unlawful activity by the Govt.  Remember the govt sanctioned murders at Waco and Ruby Ridge too.  More democratic justice.  Go back in your hole and hide. 

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« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2009, 09:11:51 PM »
That was really good.
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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2009, 09:29:02 PM »
Bravo MN - well said.
"In order to be a leader of men, a man has to receive an education in his own country, among his own people, and to grow up in surroundings steeped with the traditions and psychology of his countrymen.  Not only did Western education not fulfill that condition, but it tended to wean a young man from the traditions and customs of his country."

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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2009, 12:23:55 AM »
Yes, hear hear.  Bravo.  Good job.

You'll be able to have your own flag and everything soon!

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« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2009, 12:26:40 AM »
I dont' have to wrap the flag around me and declare myself a patriot.  A true patriot wraps himself around the flag to protect it.  Like it or not, there are still a few of us left.