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starting my garden...again
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I thought after moving to MO that it would be okay to start a garden early April.  :jester: Well my dear hubby told me no planting till may! So I'm waiting it out a little. He Got me the topsy turvy for tomatoes and strawberries.  I can't wait to use them this year!

So being new to the area can any experienced gardeners give me a little advice on good ways to make a nice vegetable garden? We tried tilling in march but we are going to end up taking the dirt out all together (its bulky and rocky) and my hubby thinks we should lay down weed cloth and then garden soil. It sounds like a plan but would it work?
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Re: starting my garden...again
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2009, 11:28:51 PM »
I prefer raised garden beds or container gardening in this area.  Most of the area has poor top soil and lots of rocks and clay.  Even if you haul in good soil with out something to contain it you will lose much of it in a couple of years.

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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 11:33:52 PM »
And if you haul in dirt, you will probably need to mix some sand in with it. Depending on where exactly you live and where you get your dirt.
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Re: starting my garden...again
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2009, 02:18:05 AM »
I thought after moving to MO that it would be okay to start a garden early April.  :jester: Well my dear hubby told me no planting till may! So I'm waiting it out a little. He Got me the topsy turvy for tomatoes and strawberries.  I can't wait to use them this year!

So being new to the area can any experienced gardeners give me a little advice on good ways to make a nice vegetable garden? We tried tilling in march but we are going to end up taking the dirt out all together (its bulky and rocky) and my hubby thinks we should lay down weed cloth and then garden soil. It sounds like a plan but would it work?
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Re: starting my garden...again
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2009, 02:39:05 PM »
Adding peet moss will also help keep your soil more manageable

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Re: starting my garden...again
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2009, 05:29:14 PM »
Missouri is a challenge for anyone wanting a garden.  I use to do intensive raised bed gardening.  Make your beds 4' wide.. that way you can reach 2' in on each side without straining.  My beds were either 8 or 16' long, and a minimum of 2' deep.  Believe it or not, if you have a paper shredder, utilize the paper from the shredder in your garden.  The paper will decompose, but in the meantime it will help as a weed barrier (not a great one but does cut down a bit, unless you use full sheets), allows water through, and helps maintain moisture.

I always used graph paper to plan out my garden.  You can plant slower growing vegetable together with faster growing ones, utilizing one section of space for two vegetables. Just be careful that you use companion planting.  Don't forget to plant your herbs along with your veggies!  I loved to plant using fencing (coated so not to burn the plants) for cucumbers, peas, tomatoes, beans, cantaloupes, watermelon, etc.  If, you can get some manure, and start a compost pile, you will be a very happy camper!!!!

If you like growing your own potatoes, you can save a lot of space, and your back if you use trash can liners... as the tubers grow, just keep adding more soil.  When you are ready to harvest, just start pouring out the soil into a fresh bag!

PS: one thing I forgot to mention... get a plastic container (not large, about the size of a can of soup), cut it on both ends and place them around your beds... if you know anyone with cows or horses, collect the manure, put some in the containers... you can either pour water over it, or allow the rain water to produce "manure tea" to fertilize your crops!!!  I use to have a pet pig and I did that years ago, worked great!
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Re: starting my garden...again
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2009, 05:50:57 PM »
Kari who would have guessed you are practically a farmer.  :)  Wish I could do some gardening, I'm just too lazy.  :-[  I would like to try the topsy turvy things so Jen I am interested in hearing how they work.
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Re: starting my garden...again
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2009, 07:07:04 PM »
Kari who would have guessed you are practically a farmer.  :)  Wish I could do some gardening, I'm just too lazy.  :-[  I would like to try the topsy turvy things so Jen I am interested in hearing how they work.
Igahman!!!  You forgot, I lived in Lancaster County, Pa for quite a while.... Believe it or not, I had one h3ll of a garden when I lived in Philly!!!  I had a postage stamp yard at MY first home in Philly.  When I started working the ground, the neighbors all laughed at me.... then harvest time came, and the following year I had most all the neighbors out digging their yards! lmao 

Though I was born and raised in Philly, my family always grew fruits and veggies, so I was raised "farming".  My Mother was quite an equestrian, so my brothers and I had to learn that also!  I took horticulture courses while in college, so that also helped.  Yep, I planned, tilled, planted, harvested, canned, took care of the horses, other critters, to include my children, cleaned, cooked, did laundry, made house repairs, repaired my own vehicles, etc..... I WAS FRIGGIN CRAZY! Ugh ^^^%%%
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2009, 09:22:49 PM »
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Re: starting my garden...again
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2009, 01:25:31 AM »
Kari Thanks for all the info! I do have a section of my front yard that is squared off by cement that i'm using for the veggie and fruit garden. Do you think if we pulled that dirt out a few feet deep and laid down some weed cloth it would work too? we planned on putting all new soil, peet moss and or garden soil down.

Now about the manure tea, I don't know anyone around here with live stock. Do you think i can just buy the bag a manure and make it that way?
Thank you again, i enjoy hearing people that passionate about this kinda thing. I'm pretty young and getting all the info I can now should help years to come :karma:
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Re: starting my garden...again
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2009, 02:23:40 AM »
LOL....thanks Maynard.....but Kari got it covered.  Have you ever read Square Foot Gardening by Mel Bartholomew??

Beds are definately the way to go. As everyone described or invent your own.  Compost is the best thing for soil.  It builds soil fertility plus adds natural microbes that fight diseases. 

Good luck and keep us aprised of you garden ventures!

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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2009, 05:11:20 PM »
Those topsy turvy planters dry out quick and get very heavy.  I have not heard of a lot of people who like them. If you want to pick the brains of super duper gardeners go to davesgarden.com  I just signed up not that long ago and it is now my fav site.  I have learned so much and I already thought I knew enough!
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