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« on: April 26, 2009, 12:49:37 PM »

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Im starting to get a little scared over this swine flu epedimic going on. Its allready confirmed in Kansas ans Texas and evedentually running rampant in mexico. They are saying its a world wide pandamonium and serious world threat. Anyone else got any news on this crap?
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Re: Swine Flu
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2009, 03:58:16 PM »
I been following that, and yes, very concerned. I'm going to see what CDC is saying (or not saying).

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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2009, 04:08:33 PM »
I think they are actually advising people to buy painter's masks. Scary stuff.
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2009, 04:20:12 PM »
The CDC and WHO are investigating. There have been 21 cases in the U.S.  A lot going on. They have to decide if a new strain is developing. This is when it becomes dangerous. There is a long media release on the CDC site (questions and answers). Best thing to protect you is stay away from large crowds and avoid sick people. Someone sneezing, coughing, and fever. They should stay home, but they won't. 

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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2009, 04:45:14 PM »
yea you usually get sicker going to the drs office!

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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2009, 05:25:40 PM »
The CDC and WHO are investigating. There have been 21 cases in the U.S.  A lot going on. They have to decide if a new strain is developing. This is when it becomes dangerous. There is a long media release on the CDC site (questions and answers). Best thing to protect you is stay away from large crowds and avoid sick people. Someone sneezing, coughing, and fever. They should stay home, but they won't. 
What I have been reading is that it's a mix of swine flu, bird flu and human flu.  Man these bugs can mutate!
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2009, 06:31:44 PM »
I know, and if that Avian virus (H5N1) learns to spread human-to-human, there will be millions die. I wonder the consquences of the combination with Human, Swine and Avian?  I hope this won't be the pathway for Avian to become human transmitted.

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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2009, 06:38:36 PM »
Extremely scary.
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Re: Swine Flu
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2009, 06:44:38 AM »
ATLANTA – As reports of a unique form of swine flu erupt around the world, the inevitable question arises: Is this the big one?
Is this the next big global flu epidemic that public health experts have long anticipated and worried about? Is this the novel virus that will kill millions around the world, as pandemics did in 1918, 1957 and 1968?
The short answer is it's too soon to tell.
"What makes this so difficult is we may be somewhere between an important but yet still uneventful public health occurrence here — with something that could literally die out over the next couple of weeks and never show up again — or this could be the opening act of a full-fledged influenza pandemic," said Michael Osterholm, a prominent expert on global flu outbreaks with the University of Minnesota.
"We have no clue right now where we are between those two extremes. That's the problem," he said.                 Health officials want to take every step to prevent an outbreak from spiraling into mass casualties. Predicting influenza is a dicey endeavor, with the U.S. government famously guessing wrong in 1976
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2009, 02:41:29 PM »
I read something else that is somewhat disturbing.  The cases are limited to humans only.  i.e. no sick swine.  Much different than the avian flu thing.  The "mixture" of the other virus's into this strain was also called into question.  Why are there segments of other strains attached?

Don't know, not trying to stir a pot or unnecessary fear.  Makes a person wonder though.
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2009, 05:34:43 PM »
I hate to accuse BUT- It wouldnt surprise me at all if the government wasnt involved SOMEHOW. Purposely or inadvertantly trying to control population growth or something similiar to that. The United States Government is well known for sneaky crap. JMO
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2009, 11:10:00 AM »
MEXICO CITY – World health officials raised a global alert to an unprecedented level as swine flu was blamed for more deaths in Mexico and the epidemic crossed new borders, with the first cases confirmed Tuesday in the Middle East and the Asia-Pacific regions.
With the swine flu having already spread to at least six other countries, authorities around the globe are like firefighters battling a blaze without knowing how far it extends.
"At this time, containment is not a feasible option," said Keiji Fukuda, assistant director-general of the World Health Organization, which raised its alert level on Monday.
New Zealand reported Tuesday that 11 people who recently returned from Mexico contracted the virus. Tests conducted at a World Health Organization laboratory in Australia had confirmed three cases of swine flu among 11 members of the group who were showing symptoms, New Zealand Health Minister Tony Ryall said.
Officials decided that was evidence enough to assume the whole group was infected, he said.
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Re: Swine Flu
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2009, 03:32:41 PM »
I hate to accuse BUT- It wouldnt surprise me at all if the government wasnt involved SOMEHOW. Purposely or inadvertantly trying to control population growth or something similiar to that. The United States Government is well known for sneaky crap. JMO
LOL I'll bet J.B. just got back from Mexico.  LOL
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2009, 06:55:04 PM »
A little more brain fodder (how quickly we forget the obvious):

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/panflu/news/jan1404hybrids.html
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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2009, 06:57:04 PM »
Its the flu folks, lets not get too carried away.
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2009, 07:55:51 PM »
Its the flu folks, lets not get too carried away.

True, and good point since the regular "season" (peripheral complications included)produces 30k deaths in the US alone.

The season however normally starts in East Asia and migrates toward the west over the winter.  This one is slightly different in many other ways.
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2009, 12:36:09 PM »
WASHINGTON – A 23-month-old Texas toddler became the first confirmed swine flu death outside of Mexico as authorities around the world struggled to contain a growing global health menace that has also swept Germany onto the roster of afflicted nations.
"Even though we've been expecting this, it is very, very sad," Dr. Richard Besser, acting chief of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said Wednesday of the infant's death. "As a pediatrician and a parent, my heart goes out to the family."
President Barack Obama said this morning that Americans should know the government is doing all it can to control virus. Obama also says schools should consider closing if the spread of the swine flu virus worsens.
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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2009, 02:25:52 PM »
On a lighter note, My family and I were at Walmart last night. As we passed a group of young men near the soft drink section, my 12 year old son asked me for a piggyback ride. I told him "Heck no, piggybacks are how the swine flu gets spread!" Those young men laughed out loud.
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2009, 02:26:28 PM »

Swine Flu—Cause for Concern?
The latest influenza outbreak has people in a panic. What should Christians think?
by A.P. Galling with Dr. Georgia Purdom, AiG–U.S.
April 28, 2009
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At a Glance

    * An outbreak of swine flu in humans has spread from Mexico to several other countries. More than 100 are believed to have died from the outbreak so far.
    * Swine flu is a Type A influenza virus, with symptoms similar to other forms of influenza. Doctors recommend the usual precautions (washing hands frequently, covering mouth during coughs and sneezes, and avoiding any contact with infected persons).
    * All forms of influenza present a real danger to people, and for that reason preparedness and precaution are important. However, there are several reasons not to panic.

See also maps of the outbreak.

Stories of “swine flu” have dominated news outlets this week, hearkening back to outbreaks of SARS and bird flu in years past. Are we in for a pandemic?

(Updated April 29 / 10 a.m. EDT) The 2009 outbreak of swine flu—technically swine influenza A (H1N1)—began with a single known case in the state of Veracruz, Mexico, on April 2. In the weeks since, swine flu has spread to several other countries and is suspected of killing more than 150 in Mexico and hospitalizing 1 in the United States.1 In Mexico, authorities have closed all schools while individuals across the country have donned surgical masks; more than 2,000 possible cases have been reported at Mexican hospitals.2 Police even kept people away from a sold-out soccer game in a bid to reduce the spread of infection.3

In the United States, Dr. Richard Besser, acting head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said that Americans should be prepared for the problem to become more severe, and that it could involve “possibly deaths.” U.S. officials declared a public health emergency after swine flu infected at least 40 individuals, with a concentration of 28 cases in New York City.4 Cases have also been reported in Canada, Spain, New Zealand, Scotland, France, Italy, and Israel.5

So what are we to think? What is swine flu, how dangerous is it, and is there cause for real concern—or is this just media hype?

Update, April 29: A 23-month-old Texas girl was the first victim of swine flu in the U.S. The child was from Mexico and had recently been there, reports BBC News.6 There are now at least 63 confirmed cases of swine flu in the U.S., 13 in Canada, 13 in Europe, 3 in New Zealand, and 2 in Israel.
Overview: What Is Swine Flu?
Influenza virus

Although swine flu does live in pigs, the variant of H1N1 responsible for the current outbreak has bird, pig, and human components.7 (Credit: Guido Gerding via Wikimedia Commons)

Swine flu, a type of influenza, is a Type A flu virus, meaning it can infect not only people, but also a variety of animals.8 The symptoms of swine flu are those of other types of influenza, and include fever, body ache, extreme fatigue, sore throat, dry cough, and lack of appetite. Some also report having a runny nose, sore throat, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea.9 Symptoms show up within a few days after the initial infection. Individuals may be contagious both before and after they show symptoms, and some infected individuals may never show symptoms8

Human infection is usually a result of a human having direct contact with an infected pig. The human may then transfer the infection to another person—or even back to a pig.10

One reason for alarm over swine flu is the speed of international travel, which can transmit the flu (through infected humans) literally around the world in a day.8
History

Swine flu was first isolated in pigs in 1930. In 1976, a swine flu outbreak in the U.S. led to vaccinations of some 40 million people before the vaccinations were halted amid controversy.11

In 1998, an outbreak of swine flu in the U.S. state of Wisconsin led to multiple human infections. MSNBC reports that “[a]bout one case of swine flu in humans is reported to the CDC every one to two years, but from December 2005 through February 2009, 12 cases were reported to the agency. According to WebMD.com, 11 of those people had direct or indirect contact with infected pigs.”10 Additionally, scientists have been urging more swine flu vigilance for the past several years.12
Prevention

Since swine flu is a type of influenza, the best preventative measures are no surprise: frequent hand-washing (with soap- or alcohol-based sanitizers); avoiding contact with sick people; and possibly wearing a face mask. Despite some countries’ immediate restrictions on pork imports, swine flu cannot be contracted through eating pork products as long as they are properly cooked.13

A key difference that has become apparent between swine flu and more common types of influenza is that swine flu has killed several young, otherwise healthy individuals. (Most types of flu are more dangerous for young children and the elderly.)14
Influenza virus

An illustration of the influenza virus. (Credit: NIAID)

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control reports that, according to laboratory testing, the swine flu virus is susceptible to the prescription antiviral drugs oseltamivir (tamiflu) and zanamivir (relenza), two of the four antiviral drugs in the U.S. licensed for flu treatment. (Swine flu is resistant to the other two drugs.15) The drugs are effective against the new strain when taken early. There is currently no vaccine for H1N1 swine flu.16
What’s a virus?

A virus is a non-living sub-microscopic infectious entity that essentially “takes over” living cells in order to reproduce. The virus that causes swine flu is similar to viruses that cause human flu and the symptoms are similar. Information compiled by several U.S. government agencies states that on average 30 to 50 percent of commercial U.S. swine are infected with swine flu.17 However, the death rate in infected swine is low.18 Typically, swine flu does not infect humans but occasionally it mutates and then is capable of infecting humans. Contact with pigs is usually necessary to “catch” swine flu but sometimes it mutates further and is transmissible from human to human (this appears to have occurred in the most recent outbreak).
An evolution connection?
Disease and a loving God

Many people wonder how an all-powerful, loving God could create a world in which there are things like viruses, diseases, epidemics, and death. But the Bible teaches us that God created the world “very good” (Genesis 1:31), and only after Adam and Eve disobeyed God did death enter the world (Genesis 3:19, 22). All of God’s creation still suffers from the effects of sin (Romans 8:20–22). But God sent His Son as a “last Adam” to redeem our souls (1 Corinthians 15:45), and thus those in whom Jesus lives have hope for the day when death will be swallowed up in victory (1 Corinthians 15:54) and when there will be “no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain” (Revelation 21:4).

(For a complete answer, read Why Does God’s Creation Include Death & Suffering? and see Get Answers: Death & Suffering. To learn how you can enjoy eternal life through God’s only Son, read the Good News!)

At first, the swine flu outbreak may seem to have little or nothing to do with biblical Christianity in particular. However, any time groups of people are dying from what appears to be nature (i.e., in this case, a virus), we receive questions about how a loving God could allow such tragedy (read the answer in the sidebar, right).

Additionally, news media commonly report that viruses such as influenza types are constantly “evolving” and thus thwarting medical treatments.19 The public perception likely mirrors the thoughts of one commenter on a LiveScience article who wrote, “It should also be said that this flu, although relatively a mild influenza as of now, can possibly evolve into a deadlier strain. . . . An extremely virulent and evolving strain could be devastating.”

Flu viruses in general do “evolve” but not in the molecules-to-man sense. Rather they mutate and these changes allow them to infect multiple hosts (pigs and humans) and/or change their mode of transmission (pig to human changes to human to human). These mutations do not add information (as required for molecules-to-man evolution) but rather alter the current information for host specificity and mode of transmission. For more information on viruses from a creationist perspective see:

    * Genetic Variance of Influenza Type A Avian Virus and its Evolutionary Implications
    * Why Did God Make Viruses?
    * Were Retroviruses Created Good?

Is there Cause for Concern or Fear?
“What You Can Do to Stay Healthy” (CDC Tips)

There are everyday actions people can take to stay healthy.

    * Cover your nose and mouth with a tissue when you cough or sneeze. Throw the tissue in the trash after you use it.
    * Wash your hands often with soap and water, especially after you cough or sneeze. Alcohol-based hands cleaners are also effective.
    * Avoid touching your eyes, nose or mouth. Germs spread that way.

Try to avoid close contact with sick people.

    * Influenza is thought to spread mainly person-to-person through coughing or sneezing of infected people.
    * If you get sick, CDC recommends that you stay home from work or school and limit contact with others to keep from infecting them.

For reliable, up-to-date information, visit the Centers for Disease Control Swine Influenza (Flu) page.
Best practices

Our first line of defense against swine flu is simple and easy to do: “Basic cleanliness that your mom taught you,” remarked Ken Ham when he was addressing the AiG staff on this issue. Wash your hands frequently with soap or alcohol-based hand sanitizer; cover your mouth with a tissue when you cough or sneeze, and dispose of the tissue immediately; and avoid touching your eyes, nose, or mouth with unclean hands. If you are sick and your symptoms are mild, stay home from school or work; however, head to the doctor’s or to a hospital if your symptoms get worse or if you have trouble breathing.20 Those ill especially should avoid travel.19 See the full list of CDC guidelines (right) for more.
Why the concern?

If defense against the flu is so routine, why all the media coverage and official concern?

    * The historical record. The 1918 “Spanish” flu pandemic killed between 50 and 100 million people, and the 1968 “Hong Kong” flu killed about 1 million.21 Considering that, everyone from world leaders to local health officials would prefer to err on the side of caution. Furthermore, there is a great deal of uncertainty about where the outbreak could head next. Swine flu is “something that could literally die out over the next couple of weeks and never show up again—or this could be the opening act of a full-fledged influenza pandemic. We have no clue right now where we are between those two extremes,” explained flu expert Michael Osterholm of the University of Minnesota.22
    * Because swine flu is not common in humans, individuals do not generally have any immunity to it, thus making it spread more quickly than common human types of influenza would.
    * There are lingering questions about why young, otherwise healthy people are dying from swine flu. Usually most influenza deaths are in the very young and elderly.23

No room for fear

“News of a new swine flu in humans seemed to spread faster worldwide than the virus itself in recent days,” quipped LiveScience senior editor Robin Lloyd.24 Despite the media hype and cause for reasonable concern, panic is unjustified for several reasons:

    * Of the 20 cases of swine flu reported in the U.S. up to April 26, only one required a “brief” hospitalization. By Monday, April 27, half of all cases in the U.S. were connected to a single New York City school.25 Furthermore, the World Health Organization has not recommended any travel or trade restrictions.26
    * MSNBC reports that “[t]he number of confirmed swine flu cases in the U.S. has climbed to 42, but that is still a tiny fraction of all influenza, which typically causes an estimated 226,000 hospitalizations and 36,000 deaths in the nation every year.”27
    * The virus has been much more deadly in Mexico, perhaps because many cases have gone unreported and thus untreated, falsely making the mortality rate appear to be much higher. Mexico’s public health system is also more overextended than more developed countries’.28
    * The number of new cases of swine flu reported by Mexico’s largest government hospitals has been dropping since April 25.19

Besides, in every situation, we should remember the words of Christ in Matthew 6:25–27:

    Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?

While a Christian can show reasonable concern over current events and undertake necessary and proper actions to counteract and prepare for the “worst-case scenario,” there is no room for panic in the Christian heart. Instead, be vigilant (as always!), pay attention to reports from the CDC for updates, and keep the affected in your prayers.
For more information:

    * Associated Press: What you need to know about swine flu
    * ScienceInsider: Recently in Swine Flu Category

Google Maps showing the H1N1/swine flu outbreak in 2009 (click maps for latest information):
Swine flu 2009 Swine Flu Outbreak Map

Wikipedia Maps showing swine flu spread worldwide and in North America (Black: confirmed deaths from swine flu. Red: confirmed infections by swine flu. Orange: suspected infections by swine flu.):
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MSNBC also has an online map tracking the outbreak.
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Re: Swine Flu
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2009, 05:56:23 PM »
Wow Mark..could you summerize that for me?
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Re: Swine Flu
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2009, 08:39:14 PM »
  Don't worry,  Be happy.

Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?
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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2009, 08:48:12 PM »
very true mark

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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2009, 12:39:12 PM »
From Egypt's order that all 300,000 pigs in the country be slaughtered to travel bans and putting the kibosh on kissing, the world is taking drastic — and some say debatable — measures to combat swine flu.
Egypt ordered the pig slaughter even though there hasn't been a single case of swine flu there and no evidence that pigs have spread the disease. Britain, with only five cases, is trying to buy 32 million masks. And in the United States, President Barack Obama said more of the country's 132,000 schools may have to be shuttered.
At airports from Japan to South Korea to Greece and Turkey, thermal cameras were trained on airline passengers to see if any were feverish. And Lebanon discouraged traditional Arab peck-on-the-cheek greetings, even though no one has come down with the virus there.
All this and more, even though world health experts say many of these measures may not stop the disease from spreading. On Wednesday, the World Health Organization raised its pandemic alert to the second-highest level, meaning it believes a global outbreak of the disease is imminent.
"Scientifically speaking, the main thing is that every virus behaves differently," said Joerg Hacker, president of the Robert Koch Institute, Germany's top public health authority. "At the moment, the main issue is to get to know this virus, how it works."
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Re: Swine Flu
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2009, 12:46:53 PM »
They have a suspected case of swine flu in North Platte, Mo.
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« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2009, 01:52:24 PM »
not North Platte .......... it's Platte City, between KC and St Joe.

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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2009, 01:59:35 PM »
not North Platte .......... it's Platte City, between KC and St Joe.

Sorry about the misinformation... I heard it on the news on my way out the door this morning.
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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2009, 02:07:24 PM »
Ok, I read Platte County but no specific city.  I lodged in Platte City last week.  Feel fine but am now wondering if there is anything to worry about.
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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2009, 04:11:26 PM »
I move they change the name  "Swine Flu" to "Congressional Flu".  It's soooooo insensitive using swine as a scape goat to describe this illness...............................

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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2009, 06:13:04 PM »
This is how the swine flu got started!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n6pmK-31sA
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