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Right to Bear Arms
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PHOENIX About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president.
Gun-rights advocates say they're exercising their constitutional right to bear arms and protest, while those who argue for more gun control say it could be a disaster waiting to happen.
Phoenix police said the gun-toters at Monday's event, including the man carrying an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle slung over his shoulder, didn't need permits. No crimes were committed, and no one was arrested.
The man with the rifle declined to be identified but told The Arizona Republic that he was carrying the assault weapon because he could. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms," he said.
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Re: Right to Bear Arms
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2009, 08:36:49 AM »
I'm gonna wander around outside of a church somewhere with an AR-15 now.

Maybe I will wander around downtown Waynesville with an AR-15 when people are voting the next time we have some sort of ballet casting event...

I wonder how quick I would be arrested if I did that.

Maybe I'll wander around with a gun at Christmas on the Square this year.  Ya know... just in case.

I wonder if these weapons were loaded in Phoenix...

I'll assume they were... even though it will probably end up being the spin on this that was conviently left out. 

Some things are just stupid to do though.  This would be one of them.  Its not very responsible to get together in a group and wander around populated areas with weapons trying to incite unrest.

I'm all for gun rights... but I'm also all about gun responsibility... and it doesn't seem very responsible to me to be out in public playing with your AR-15 to try and prove a point.

Are we going to start acting like Islamic extremists now and start firing our guns off into the air at parties now too?  LOL.  I half expected that to happen in Phoenix.

The way the guy with the AR-15 was dressed reminded me of Malcolm X.  LOL.  I wonder if he was going for that...



PHOENIX About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president.
Gun-rights advocates say they're exercising their constitutional right to bear arms and protest, while those who argue for more gun control say it could be a disaster waiting to happen.
Phoenix police said the gun-toters at Monday's event, including the man carrying an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle slung over his shoulder, didn't need permits. No crimes were committed, and no one was arrested.
The man with the rifle declined to be identified but told The Arizona Republic that he was carrying the assault weapon because he could. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms," he said.

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Re: Right to Bear Arms
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2009, 10:05:02 AM »
I'm gonna wander around outside of a church somewhere with an AR-15 now.

Maybe I will wander around downtown Waynesville with an AR-15 when people are voting the next time we have some sort of ballet casting event...

I wonder how quick I would be arrested if I did that.

Maybe I'll wander around with a gun at Christmas on the Square this year.  Ya know... just in case.

I wonder if these weapons were loaded in Phoenix...

I'll assume they were... even though it will probably end up being the spin on this that was conviently left out. 

Some things are just stupid to do though.  This would be one of them.  Its not very responsible to get together in a group and wander around populated areas with weapons trying to incite unrest.

I'm all for gun rights... but I'm also all about gun responsibility... and it doesn't seem very responsible to me to be out in public playing with your AR-15 to try and prove a point.

Are we going to start acting like Islamic extremists now and start firing our guns off into the air at parties now too?  LOL.  I half expected that to happen in Phoenix.

The way the guy with the AR-15 was dressed reminded me of Malcolm X.  LOL.  I wonder if he was going for that...



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Re: Right to Bear Arms
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2009, 12:28:23 PM »
Why are people so intimidated by the sight of an EBR or any other gun?  Nothing to get alarmed about in my estimation.  As far as carrying in the open downtown, you should check local ordinances before you do.  Even if legal, the police will most likely try to charge yo uwith disturbing the peace or some other offense since they can't charge you with a weapons offense.  The people in the article were not in the area where the president was.  He was inside and even the SS stated these people constituted no threat to him.  While I would not open carry at such an event, to each his own.

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Re: Right to Bear Arms
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2009, 12:52:19 PM »
Are you gonna knock a few of my teeth out as well Mark?

I'm just giving you a simillar scenario Rambo.  Calm down before your blood pressure gets too high.

These people are speaking out against Obama and the current administration... AND they're walking around with firearms... hmmm.  I wonder why someone should be worried...

I would be a bit worried about ANYONE wandering around with a weapon like an AR-15... thats a little bit over-kill don't you think?

Remember some of the people who HAVE guns... they're no exactly sane...

Which reminds me... did you ever get your guns back Mark?  I don't remember if you ever said anything about it again or not...


There isn't anything wrong with owning guns.  I'm all for it.  Though as I said... use some common sense.

Please come to my church and try that!

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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2009, 09:06:03 PM »
I stand divided, while Im all for displaying my RTKBA, I wouldnt do it near an event with the president...thats just waiting for negative spin to the leftist media. Im glad nobody has went bezerk yet... but with more anger and upset building, its an unfortunate risk.  Its the whole one bad apple thing.  Obaba and his crew know that LOTS of people own guns.  With recent sales of guns and ll things related, that is hard to miss.  That alone is a clear message.

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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2009, 10:21:10 PM »
 People think he's a gun grabber and their standing up for their rights. I personally have no need for an assault rifle nor would I take any gun near the president. And yes I finally got my gun and CCW back!
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2009, 11:11:46 PM »
Glad to hear it Mark.

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Re: Right to Bear Arms
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2009, 12:05:58 AM »

These people are speaking out against Obama and the current administration... AND they're walking around with firearms... hmmm.  I wonder why someone should be worried...


I know you've stated that you are pro gun ownership but your statement above brought this thought to mind: The reason our forefathers thought citizen gun ownership was so important (enough to make it the 2nd amendment) was because they knew the tendency of government to become too big, too powerful and eventually too intrusive.  The 2nd amendment was the founders way of creating a "checks and balances" system to secure and maintain a government "of the people, by the people, for the people" (Lincoln's words, not mine!) and avoid the always impending crisis of tyranny.

I personally think we are currently seeing a reformation and revival (if you will) of many of the ideals our nation's founders were so adamant about.  The idea that we should always be leery of government and their motives is a great one that should be emphasized more than it currently is.  One of the things that personally turns me off about government and politicians (sorry Dave, I know I'm being stereotypical) is this "trust me" attitude.  We are all fallible and shouldn't be surprised when others aren't as convinced of our motives as we are!

The framers of our Constitution had one specific goal and that was liberty.  We, as a nation, have let our freedoms go by the wayside, one by one, until now losing personal freedoms is not only accepted but expected.

I know I've written a book here and could continue rambling but thought I would leave with this quote of one of the great patriots of our nation's history.
Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.   Patrick Henry [/]
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Re: Right to Bear Arms
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2009, 01:32:38 AM »
keep rambling seeg!!

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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2009, 01:45:03 AM »
keep rambling seeg!!

When no one answers you just keep right on talking.  You love to see yourself in print.

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Re: Right to Bear Arms
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2009, 02:21:19 AM »
I'm gonna wander around outside of a church somewhere with an AR-15 now.

Maybe I will wander around downtown Waynesville with an AR-15 when people are voting the next time we have some sort of ballet casting event...

I wonder how quick I would be arrested if I did that.

Maybe I'll wander around with a gun at Christmas on the Square this year.  Ya know... just in case.

I wonder if these weapons were loaded in Phoenix...

I'll assume they were... even though it will probably end up being the spin on this that was conviently left out. 

Some things are just stupid to do though.  This would be one of them.  Its not very responsible to get together in a group and wander around populated areas with weapons trying to incite unrest.

I'm all for gun rights... but I'm also all about gun responsibility... and it doesn't seem very responsible to me to be out in public playing with your AR-15 to try and prove a point.

Are we going to start acting like Islamic extremists now and start firing our guns off into the air at parties now too?  LOL.  I half expected that to happen in Phoenix.

The way the guy with the AR-15 was dressed reminded me of Malcolm X.  LOL.  I wonder if he was going for that...
   

Carrying an AR-15 or anything openly in public defies common sense thinking.  We have pretty liberal gun laws in Missouri and all it takes is a hand full of yahoos to ruin it.  My philosophy is not to draw attention to myself.  I carry a 1911 openly but only in uniform, period.  Other than that, you'll never see a firearm on my person even though it's there most of the time....................
 
Note:  I'm in agreement with you Digital.

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Re: Right to Bear Arms
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2009, 02:23:32 AM »
 I carry my 38 like that guy that took his into the jail (under my belly fat) LOL
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2009, 02:00:44 PM »
Seeg, I agree with the principles you noted.  While I do carry and you won't see it, and I do support open carry, carrying a rifle in a crowd is not what I would do to support the principles you noted.  Yes the government is way too big and getting more intrusive each day.  Vote all incumbents in the federal congress out of office is the second step to stopping the insanity.