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will this work in the US?
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  MEXICO CITY (AP) - Mexico decriminalized small amounts of marijuana, cocaine and heroin on Friday—a move that prosecutors say makes sense even in the midst of the government's grueling battle against drug traffickers.  Prosecutors said the new law sets clear limits that keep Mexico's corruption-prone police from extorting casual users and offers addicts free treatment to keep growing domestic drug use in check.  This is not legalization, this is regulating the issue and giving citizens greater legal certainty," said Bernardo Espino del Castillo of the attorney general's office.  The new law sets out maximum "personal use" amounts for drugs, also including LSD and methamphetamine. People detained with those quantities no longer face criminal prosecution.  Espino del Castillo says, in practice, small users almost never did face charges anyway. Under the previous law, the possession of any amount of drugs was punishable by stiff jail sentences, but there was leeway for addicts caught with smaller amounts.  "We couldn't charge somebody who was in possession of a dose of a drug, there was no way ... because the person would claim they were an addict," he said.  Despite the provisions, police sometimes hauled in suspects and demanded bribes, threatening long jail sentences if people did not pay.  "The bad thing was that it was left up to the discretion of the detective, and it could open the door to corruption or extortion," Espino del Castillo said.  Anyone caught with drug amounts under the new personal-use limit will be encouraged to seek treatment, and for those caught a third time treatment is mandatory.  The maximum amount of marijuana for "personal use" under the new law is 5 grams—the equivalent of about four joints. The limit is a half gram for cocaine, the equivalent of about 4 "lines." For other drugs, the limits are 50 milligrams of heroin, 40 milligrams for methamphetamine and 0.015 milligrams for LSD.  Mexico has emphasized the need to differentiate drug addicts and casual users from the violent traffickers whose turf battles have contributed to the deaths of more than 11,000 people since President Felipe Calderon took office in late 2006.  But one expert saw potential for conflict under the new law.  Javier Oliva, a political scientist at Mexico's National Autonomous University, said the new law posed "a serious contradiction" for the Calderon administration.  "If they decriminalize drugs it could lead the army, which has been given the task of combating this, to say 'What are we doing'?" he said.  Officials said the legal changes could help the government focus more on big-time traffickers.  Espino del Castillo said since Calderon took office, there have been over 15,000 police searches related to small-scale drug dealing or possession, with 95,000 people detained—but only 12 to 15 percent of whom were ever charged with anything.

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Re: will this work in the US?
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2009, 12:50:13 AM »
Drugs like that have no place being legal in America.

I hear people time and time again saying that pot should be legalized. 

I disagree.

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Re: will this work in the US?
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2009, 12:58:02 AM »
I agree with DN.

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Re: will this work in the US?
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2009, 01:52:53 AM »
Its usually the people who smoke pot who want it legalized.

Sorry, but I don't want to be on the road with someone who's high and cannot perform proper motor functions.  Not to mention any other countless activities that might put myself and others at risk.

Drugs like that have no place being legal in America.

I hear people time and time again saying that pot should be legalized. 

I disagree.

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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2009, 01:52:46 PM »
I don't believe any of them should be legalized either. how could it be regulated? It would also increase the moral decay we have already.

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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2009, 11:07:30 PM »
If they could come out with a test to give someone like they have with alcohol... sure... legalize pot.  However, until that time... I don't want smashed on the road somewhere and the person get off scott free and turn around and do it to someone else somewhere else because there was no way to prove the person was high on something that effected his driving.

Not to mention the effects it might have on younger people if it was made readily available... people think there is a problem with teens smoking cigarettes NOW... just wait, if pot were legalized... test scores would decay even further... we have it bad enough already with the under funding our schools are facing...

I don't believe any of them should be legalized either. how could it be regulated? It would also increase the moral decay we have already.