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SS Makes it Official no COLA this year.
« on: October 15, 2009, 03:16:25 PM »

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Re: SS Makes it Official no COLA this year.
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2009, 03:53:51 PM »
And is anyone surprised?  The first ones penalized are those on fixed incomes.  Wait until they finish the rape of medicare for our aged.

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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2009, 04:25:15 PM »
Yeah, damn Nixon, still screwing seniors after all these years, and dying before we could lynch him.
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2009, 05:27:15 PM »
Nixon didn't cut Medicare.  Obama, the great one did that along with his ass kissing congress

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Re: SS Makes it Official no COLA this year.
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2009, 06:56:09 PM »
If the law states that Colas are pegged to inflation, which is negative this year, so there is no Cola. How is this the president’s fault? If congress doesn’t like it let them change the law. I would also guess that means that the military and federal employees wont be getting one either or shouldn’t. I have a question off subject. How do I start a post on here?

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Re: SS Makes it Official no COLA this year.
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2009, 07:01:24 PM »
Go to forum, find the section you want to post in, then when you open that section there is a place on the top right hand side that says new topic.
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Re: SS Makes it Official no COLA this year.
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2009, 07:36:39 PM »
The employees of the University in Rolla didn't get a cost of living raise this year and are told they won't get one next year

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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2009, 08:30:41 PM »
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Re: SS Makes it Official no COLA this year.
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2009, 10:51:09 AM »
The military has been approved for one.  Don't know about civil service though.  Medicare is NOT tied to inflation and they intend to rape that.  And I would point out that regardless of what the government may try to tell us, the cost of living has gone up.  Ask those on a fixed income.

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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2009, 07:20:25 PM »
... And I would point out that regardless of what the government may try to tell us, the cost of living has gone up.  Ask those on a fixed income.

I'll 2nd that!  Explain to me how I can get a pay raise, but bring home less money (net) because my medical insurance costs went up. I go out less, eat out less, cut out "extras" and have a harder time paying my bills today than I have in several years... 
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Re: SS Makes it Official no COLA this year.
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2009, 08:22:56 PM »
Didn't a female move in with you?
 
 
I'll 2nd that!  Explain to me how I can get a pay raise, but bring home less money (net) because my medical insurance costs went up. I go out less, eat out less, cut out "extras" and have a harder time paying my bills today than I have in several years...

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Re: SS Makes it Official no COLA this year.
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2009, 11:13:13 PM »
Ok i get a bit frustrated with the term "fixed income".  MOST everyone is on a fixed income. I don't know about you but I get paid a flat hourly fee that I have no way of changing, my husband gets paid an hourly rate.  I don't get paid for holidays, vacation, or sick leave, if I don't work I don't get paid. Neither of us get overtime pay. We can't just demand more money. In fact, I've not had a cost of living increase in 5 years. Those of you who do, even a small amount should be happy. Most of us are all on a fixed income....  and the rates for everything are going up, it effects all of us.  I can't get blood from a turnip.....  Unless you are charge of your income and can adjust how little or much you make, you are on a fixed income.

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Re: SS Makes it Official no COLA this year.
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2009, 11:50:31 PM »
When used in the terms we do in Jeff City, "fixed income" is meaning someone, normally disabled or elderly, who do not have the ability to earn more money than is sent to them in either a Social Security Check, retirement check or assistance from the government.

As a middle age person, I have the ability to get a second job, look for a better paying job, do odd jobs, etc... to earn more money if I want to or feel I must do so.  There have been many times in my life I have worked 2 jobs, which means I was not locked into a fixed income, I had the ability to get a second one.

I understand what you are saying, but just wanted to throw in why the term is used in the way if usually is and who they are talking about.

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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2009, 11:57:03 PM »
I term fixed income as those dependent on social security.  And they had better not be out there working or the govt will take away from what little they get.  These people contributed to it all their lives.  The way we take care of the aged is terrible in this country and the administration currently in power has made it worse. 

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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2009, 12:20:46 AM »
I term fixed income as those dependent on social security.  And they had better not be out there working or the govt will take away from what little they get.  These people contributed to it all their lives.  The way we take care of the aged is terrible in this country and the administration currently in power has made it worse. 

And this from the person who hates socialism and wants to end social security.
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2009, 01:31:30 AM »
I term fixed income as those dependent on social security.  And they had better not be out there working or the govt will take away from what little they get.  These people contributed to it all their lives.  The way we take care of the aged is terrible in this country and the administration currently in power has made it worse.

I don't think you can prove this current administration has made anything with insurance worse.  It has been a mess for a long time.  Unfair statement..

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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2009, 06:17:26 PM »
Didn't a female move in with you?
 
 

Yup.  And when she did we got rid of her 2 houses and car payment...  less payments & still have less disposable income...  but cost of living is staying the same or going down... apparently they haven't raised the cafeteria prices in D.C. so those guys think everything is ok...
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Re: SS Makes it Official no COLA this year.
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2009, 06:48:55 PM »
Happens every year with my retirement.  I get a raise and my insurance goes up.  Oh well, at least they gave me enough to keep up.  Can't be sure that will still happen.
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2009, 11:10:27 PM »
Nixon didn't cut Medicare.  Obama, the great one did that along with his ass kissing congress

I dared to hope that you'd actually use your brain.

Guess that was hoping for too much.

So every year you've gotten a little bump in your Social Security check due to inflation. Maybe you've come to consider it an annual raise from Uncle Sam.

Well, this January, you might not get one.

And a chain e-mail making the rounds tells you to blame Democrats in Congress.

"For the first time in history, the Democratic Congress will not allow an increase in the Social Security COLA (cost of living adjustment)," the e-mail states.

There are actually two versions of this e-mail floating around. One pins the blame generically on "Congress," while the other says "the Democratic Congress." The second version seems to have gotten more traction on the Web, so we focused on the latter version.

Up until 1975, it took an act of Congress to adjust Social Security payments for inflation. But a law enacted in 1972 — and signed by President Richard Nixon, a Republican — created a formula to automatically calculate the COLA every year. The Social Security cost of living adjustment was tied to the Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W).

The government compares that index in the third quarter (July, August and September) of the current year to the third quarter of the previous year. Every year since the formula was put into effect (1975), it has resulted in a cost-of-living increase. High oil prices last summer contributed in large part to a sizable COLA increase in January of 5.8 percent, the highest increase in more than 25 years.
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This year, the CPI-W is expected to decrease. That's due in part to lower consumer prices and low inflation from the recession. But mostly, it's tied to oil prices, which fell markedly from last summer's highs. As a result, a Social Security Trustees report last fall forecast no COLA next year. And the Congressional Budget Office recently projected that the formula will fail to yield a COLA in 2010 or 2011.

The law does not allow COLA to be adjusted downward, so the effect is that Social Security payments would remain stagnant next year. This all has consequences for Medicare as well. For the three-quarters of seniors who have premiums for Part B of Medicare withheld from their Social Security checks, the COLA freeze will also mean a freeze in Part B premiums. That's because of a "hold-harmless" provision in the law. But millions of seniors exempt from the provision — some wealthy people, people new to the program and those who don't have Part B premiums withheld from their Social Security payments — could actually see smaller Social Security checks.

"It has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans," said Mark Hinkle, a spokesman for Social Security. "It's been the law since 1975, and it's based strictly on the numbers."

Congress could vote to increase Social Security payments even though the COLA formula doesn't call for it. And, in fact, several pieces of legislation have been offered with that very goal.

One is the Emergency Senior Citizens Relief Act, introduced in the Senate by Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and in the House by Peter DeFazio, D-Ore. It would provide a one-time payment of $250 to Social Security recipients next year.

Another is the Emergency COLA Bill, introduced earlier this week by Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C. It would provide a COLA for 2010 equal to the average of the COLA over the past 10 years — roughly 3 percent.

Obviously, these bills are coming from both sides of the aisle.

If this e-mail had merely gotten some facts wrong, we'd be comfortable rating it False. But given that it targets senior citizens on an important pocketbook issue with an incorrect allegation that has no basis in fact, we have to go one more notch and set the meter ablaze. Pants on Fire.
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Re: SS Makes it Official no COLA this year.
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2009, 02:33:32 PM »
What the, can't you make an argument without insulting someones intelligence.  Just because someone uses their brain and comes up with a different conclusion than you do, does not mean they aren't using their brain.  C'mon now, you can do better than that.
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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2009, 02:34:51 PM »
What the, can't you make an argument without insulting someones intelligence.  Just because someone uses their brain and comes up with a different conclusion than you do, does not mean they aren't using their brain.  C'mon now, you can do better than that.

I can, but I choose not to.

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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2009, 03:34:34 PM »
He is incapable of doing so.  He also quotes emails, which are not the source of this discussion.  IAW, I refuse to argue with people whose incompetnece and assininity is beyond hope.

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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2009, 03:55:25 PM »
How can they project no COLA for 2011 if the obama plans are passed the inflation effect will result in a huge increase for then.


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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2009, 07:14:08 PM »
He is incapable of doing so.  He also quotes emails, which are not the source of this discussion.  IAW, I refuse to argue with people whose incompetnece and assininity is beyond hope.

From someone who spends his entire life believing every BS e-mail that comes into his mailbox, then runs around like a scared little girl screaming how the Obama administration is destroying the country, without ever once taking a moment to check the veracity of the garbage he repeats, that is a compliment.

You may not like how I say what I say, but you can't deny that you repeat lie after lie, even after being smacked down time after time with proof of your lies, while I speak the truth.

Got any bomber plans to sell China?

Hey look, Obama isn't giving anyone a SS COLA increase!






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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2009, 11:14:49 PM »
Talk all the smack you want.  It is the only way you get to say anything on this board.  While I have posted some things without checking their veracity, I certainly don't go out of my way to put people, including you, down.  This is a typical liberal ploy to take away from the discussion when they have no facts to back them up. 

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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2009, 05:00:42 PM »
Aww... Did someone hurt your feelings?  LOL

Talk all the smack you want.  It is the only way you get to say anything on this board.  While I have posted some things without checking their veracity, I certainly don't go out of my way to put people, including you, down.  This is a typical liberal ploy to take away from the discussion when they have no facts to back them up. 

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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2009, 05:01:33 PM »
Its peeling off like a pasted on decal lie.



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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2009, 05:24:33 PM »
nope,just a proven nobama strategy.

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« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2009, 03:58:14 AM »


Hey, you can't post the TRUTH here!!! What were you thinking, Fish?!?!?!
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