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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #61 on: November 06, 2009, 05:34:30 AM »
Are you saying Digital doesn't believe everything he writes? He's doing all this to stir the pot? Say it ain't so!!

Shhhhhhh!!! don't tell everybody but DN preaches at a Baptist church when he leaves town on the weekends and he Teaches a coarse on the evils of Satanism at SMS 2 days a week.
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #62 on: November 06, 2009, 05:49:03 AM »
Awww, ya miss me Maynard.... I said I'd be around here and there. Don't worry, I'll piss ya off again... that's what friends are for!  :poke:
Hey guess what? they closed down another abortion clinic here yesterday... theirs only one left and people will not hardly go there.
Pensacola has blown up and burnt down more clinic's than anywhere, they have shoot and killed 2 Doctors and one escort and made all the other Doctors quit in fear of their lives.
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #63 on: November 06, 2009, 01:09:24 PM »
On the Today show they just said he is in stable condition and on a ventilator. Also saying that the FBI had been suspicious of him for 6 months because he had been posting and blogging on the internet about terrorist plots and suicide bombings
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #64 on: November 06, 2009, 01:16:52 PM »
Ok weren't they saying yesterday there were 3 shooters? this morning they are saying just the 1.
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #65 on: November 06, 2009, 01:20:22 PM »
Hey guess what? they closed down another abortion clinic here yesterday... theirs only one left and people will not hardly go there.
Pensacola has blown up and burnt down more clinic's than anywhere, they have shoot and killed 2 Doctors and one escort and made all the other Doctors quit in fear of their lives.


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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #66 on: November 06, 2009, 01:21:01 PM »
Yeah, yesterday they were saying two or three shooters. I haven't heard anything about any others since.

I don't get why nothing was done before. The FBI was watching him and he was telling everyone he didn't want to go to war.
No red flags?
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #67 on: November 06, 2009, 01:35:37 PM »
This is all so mind boggling. And the fear the survivng soldiers have to deal with, when somone of that HIGH rank can do this. :( :( :( :(
Like they said last night, how many soldiers are going to be looking at their comrades with self doubt...fear.. There is going to be so many issues resulting from this. I just prayed hard last night.. Its just sad.
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #68 on: November 06, 2009, 01:41:17 PM »
The counts were 13 and 31 this am, and shooter still recovering, not talking yet.
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« Reply #69 on: November 06, 2009, 01:52:12 PM »
 
They took 2 into custody and after questioning, released them.  It was my impression last evening they were looking for another person though.  Too bad the guy didn't die on the operating table.  It was reported he gave away all his furniture and copies of the Koran before he went on this rampage.  Also they stated he had specific targets and those shot were, for the most part, not random.  BTW, did anyone notice he is a Muslim?  Guess he didn't want to fight his brothers in the middle east and this was his statement.  I didn't give any thought to the nationality of the assailant until they announced it last night.  But I am not surpirsed at all by the turn of events

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« Reply #70 on: November 06, 2009, 01:53:07 PM »
By JEFF CARLTON, Associated Press Writer Jeff Carlton, Associated Press Writer Ė 23 mins ago
FORT HOOD, Texas Ė Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire, the base commander said Friday.

Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that the suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for "God is great!" before the rampage Thursday, which left 30 people wounded, including the gunman.

An imam from a mosque Hasan regularly attended said Hasan, a lifelong Muslim, was a committed soldier, gave no sign of extremist beliefs and regularly wore his uniform at prayers.

Cone said Hasan was hospitalized in stable condition and that investigators hope to interrogate him as soon as possible. In the early chaos after the shootings, authorities believed they had killed him, only to discover later that he had survived.

Cone said Hasan was not known to be a threat or risk. He acknowledged that it was "counterintuitive" that a single shooter could kill and injure so many people. But he said the massacre occurred in "close quarters."

"With ricochet fire, he was able to injure that number of people," Cone said. Authorities are investigating whether Hasan's weapons were properly registered with the military.

The motive for the shooting wasn't clear, but Hasan was apparently set to deploy soon and had expressed some anger about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, said generals at Fort Hood told her that Hasan was about to deploy overseas.

Lee said Hasan had hoped Obama would pull troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq and got into frequent arguments with others in the military who supported the wars.

Officials are not ruling out the possibility that some of the casualties may have been victims of "friendly fire," that in the mayhem and confusion at the shooting scene some of the responding military officials may have shot some of the victims.

The gunfire broke out around 1:30 p.m. at the Soldier Readiness Center, where soldiers who are about to be deployed or who are returning undergo medical screening. Nearby, some soldiers were readying to head into a graduation ceremony for troops and families who had recently earned degrees.

Pastor Greg Schannep had just parked his car along the side of the theater and was about to head into the ceremony when a man in uniform approached him.

"Sir, they are opening fire over there!" the man told him. At first, he thought it was a training exercise ó then heard three volleys and saw people running. As the man who warned him about the shots ran away, he could see the man's back was bloodied from a wound.

Schannep said police and medical and other emergency personnel were on the scene in an instant, telling people to get inside the theater. The post went into lockdown while a search began for a suspect and emergency workers began trying to treat the wounded. Some soldiers rushed to treat their injured colleagues by ripping their uniforms into makeshift bandages to treat their wounds.

Video from the scene showed police patrolling the area with handguns and rifles, ducking behind buildings for cover. Sirens could be heard wailing while a woman's voice on a public-address system urged people to take cover. Schools on the base went into lockdown, and family members trying to find out what was happening inside found cell phone lines jammed or busy.

"I was confused and just shocked," said Spc. Jerry Richard, 27, who works at the center but was not on duty during the shooting. "Overseas you are ready for it. But here you can't even defend yourself."

The wounded were dispersed among hospitals in central Texas, Cone said. Their identities and the identities of the dead were not immediately released.

The bodies of the victims would be taken to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware for autopsies and forensic tests, said a U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss matters that were under investigation.

There also will be a ceremony at the air base to honor the dead.

Jamie and Scotty Casteel stood outside the emergency room at the hospital in Temple waiting for news of their son-in-law Matthew Cooke, who was among the injured.

"He's been shot in the abdomen and that's all we know," Jamie Casteel told The Associated Press. She said Cooke, from New York state, had been home from Iraq for about a year.

Amber Bahr, 19, was shot in the stomach but was in stable condition, said her mother, Lisa Pfund of Random Lake, Wis.

"We know nothing, just that she was shot in the belly," Pfund said. She couldn't provide more details and only spoke with emergency personnel.

Nathan A. Hewitt, 26, of Lafayette, Ind., was shot in the hip and calf, his uncles Elmo Robledo and Rex Deaton told the Journal & Courier.

Ashley Saucedo told WOOD-TV in Michigan that her husband was shot in the arm, but she couldn't discuss specifics. Saucedo said she and the couple's two children weren't permitted to leave their home at Fort Hood during the shootings.

For six years before reporting for duty at Fort Hood in July, Hasan worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center pursuing a career in psychiatry, as an intern, a resident and, last year, a fellow in disaster and preventive psychiatry. The 39-year-old Army major received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001.

But his record wasn't sterling. At Walter Reed, he received a poor performance evaluation, according to an official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly. And while he was an intern, Hasan had some "difficulties" that required counseling and extra supervision, said Dr. Thomas Grieger, who was the training director at the time.

Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md., said "I got the impression that he was a committed soldier." He said Hasan attended prayers regularly at the mosque in Silver Spring, Md., and was a lifelong Muslim. He spoke often with Hasan about Hasan's desire for a wife.

In an interview with The Washington Post, Hasan's aunt, Noel Hasan of Falls Church, Va., said he had been harassed about being a Muslim in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, and he wanted out of the Army.

"Some people can take it and some people cannot," she said. "He had listened to all of that and he wanted out of the military."

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

Investigators had not determined for certain whether Hasan was the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case.

The FBI, local police and other agencies searched Hasan's apartment Thursday night after evacuating the complex in Killeen, said city spokeswoman Hilary Shine. She referred questions about what was found to the FBI. The FBI in Dallas referred questions to a spokesman who was not immediately available early Friday morning.

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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #71 on: November 06, 2009, 01:55:06 PM »
"Cone says Hasan was not known to be a threat or risk."

It was know to the FBI. I'd say they will have some answering to do.
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« Reply #72 on: November 06, 2009, 02:33:10 PM »
Have you seen the pictires of him in his Arab clothing, getting coffee yesterday morning?
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« Reply #73 on: November 06, 2009, 02:42:06 PM »
The counts were 13 and 31 this am, and shooter still recovering, not talking yet.

Yeah, it appears he will get out of the militarty now. Just not like he wanted to... Since he is muslim, can we try him like a muslim.. Stand him up and let these recovering shoulders open fire? :poke:
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« Reply #74 on: November 06, 2009, 03:57:08 PM »
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« Reply #75 on: November 06, 2009, 04:11:50 PM »
Iím glad he lived so we can have another shot at killing him. This will make it rough on the other soldiers that are Muslim. And you know what I donít care. Iím sick of being politically correct about this. I know I have stated that I know Muslims that are good people, and they probably are. Iím sure people thought this guy was to. If I was in military I would be keeping a close eye on those around me that I knew were Muslim.
This is not the first time this has happened. Doesnít want to fight his brothers they werenít his brothers what about the men and women he served with. He was American and I hope they also find guilty of treason. The next war in this country wonít be about politics it will be about religion. I donít care about a personís race, nationality or religion as long as they have a live and let live attitude. However, if this ever escalates either by planning among an in  the Muslim community or simply by copycat killers this could get out of hand. Doesnít even have to be Muslims could be good ole boys decide to go out kill themselves some Muslims. Nothing starts a good war like fight over religion. Label me a bigot or racist I donít care because Iím not, but If the day came that I had to personally fight over religion I know which side I would be on.
If the majority of Muslims do not feel the same way that these radical Muslims then it time for them to take stand for their religion and find a way to do away with these bastards. Hell they kill their own people and do a better job at it then the Military does.

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« Reply #76 on: November 06, 2009, 04:24:32 PM »
By JEFF CARLTON, Associated Press Writer Jeff Carlton, Associated Press Writer – 23 mins ago
FORT HOOD, Texas – Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire, the base commander said Friday.

Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that the suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for "God is great!" before the rampage Thursday, which left 30 people wounded, including the gunman.

Here's an interview with the general about this U.S. Army officer making the Allahu Akbar quote.

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« Reply #77 on: November 06, 2009, 04:31:00 PM »
He wil lleave the military in only one way.  Death.

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« Reply #78 on: November 06, 2009, 04:41:03 PM »
A very important caution here...
 
Anyone who knows me knows what I think about Islam as a religion. But I'm hearing things that go beyond what we can or should say.
 
There is such a thing as an ex-Muslim. There is such as thing as a non-practicing Muslim. And there is such as thing as a professing Muslim who is only minimially observant of Islamic practices and one who does not agree with key doctrines of Islam. If you doubt that, think of the large number of ex-Catholics, baptized Catholics who rarely if ever go to Mass, professing Catholics who go to Mass on Christmas and Easter, and professing Catholics who **DO** practice their religion but are in complete disagreement with the Pope on major issues such as abortion. Would any of us say, "once a Catholic, always a Catholic?"
 
We simply cannot say that we can never trust a person because "once a Muslim, always a Muslim." Yes, I'm very much aware that terrorists have advised their followers to stay away from radical mosques where they could be observed and to deliberately do things like eat pork and otherwise try to convince people they are not Muslim.
 
However, Islam is not like evangelical Christianity in the sense that "God has no grandchildren." Islam really is a religion that you're born into (Judaism is the same way, BTW, and so are some other faiths). That means there are huge numbers of people who call themselves Muslim but are not in any serious sense of the word practicing Muslims.
 
That means we simply cannot assume that everybody who has ever been a Muslim in name is a potential terrorist. We need to treat people as individuals. And under our Constitution, if somebody claims to be a professing Muslim and still supports the United States Army, we can't keep them from enlisting. Even though I sincerely believe that it is not possible to be a good Muslim and a good American, it is very possible to be a good American and a bad Muslim.
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« Reply #79 on: November 06, 2009, 05:12:11 PM »
Darrell I agree with the statement that there are ex-Muslims and it possible to be a good American and a bad Muslim. So as a good American it time that they start informing on the radical Muslims. They try to recruit those that are not practicing or hard core Muslims, turn them in. It time to for them to stand up and do the right thing.
I stand by the comment if I was in the Military I would keep my eyes on the Muslim American soldier. Is it racist, yeah I guess it sort of is? But so is saying that you canít be a good Muslim and a good American. I would bet there are those
 in the Muslim community that would take offense to that remark and find it racist. But I agree with you .Iím not saying go out kill them or beat them. But I know personally I would have a hard time not keeping eye on them. I guess Iím just not that enlighten.

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« Reply #80 on: November 06, 2009, 05:14:34 PM »
From what i have read, it seems like some of the casualties could be a result of "Friendly Fire" and "Confusion". Very sad deal to all the families involved.

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« Reply #81 on: November 06, 2009, 05:36:57 PM »
it isn't racist to keep an eye on a muslim soldier. it is a defensive measure.


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« Reply #82 on: November 06, 2009, 05:38:33 PM »
gov perry already said he will make sure hasan is executed, if he makes it to trial.

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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #83 on: November 06, 2009, 06:06:46 PM »

 
 
I know you are just "pushing buttons" but no it's not cool.  I'm glad they are out of business but I don't want to see anybody get hurt.
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #84 on: November 06, 2009, 06:23:16 PM »
You think the shooter was ever stationed here?
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #85 on: November 06, 2009, 06:27:33 PM »
I doubt it.  Someone would have said something by now.
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« Reply #86 on: November 06, 2009, 06:27:44 PM »
I understood your post...I was referring to Hasan
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #87 on: November 06, 2009, 06:32:04 PM »
A very important caution here...
 
Anyone who knows me knows what I think about Islam as a religion. But I'm hearing things that go beyond what we can or should say.
 
There is such a thing as an ex-Muslim. There is such as thing as a non-practicing Muslim. And there is such as thing as a professing Muslim who is only minimially observant of Islamic practices and one who does not agree with key doctrines of Islam. If you doubt that, think of the large number of ex-Catholics, baptized Catholics who rarely if ever go to Mass, professing Catholics who go to Mass on Christmas and Easter, and professing Catholics who **DO** practice their religion but are in complete disagreement with the Pope on major issues such as abortion. Would any of us say, "once a Catholic, always a Catholic?"
 
We simply cannot say that we can never trust a person because "once a Muslim, always a Muslim." Yes, I'm very much aware that terrorists have advised their followers to stay away from radical mosques where they could be observed and to deliberately do things like eat pork and otherwise try to convince people they are not Muslim.
 
However, Islam is not like evangelical Christianity in the sense that "God has no grandchildren." Islam really is a religion that you're born into (Judaism is the same way, BTW, and so are some other faiths). That means there are huge numbers of people who call themselves Muslim but are not in any serious sense of the word practicing Muslims.
 
That means we simply cannot assume that everybody who has ever been a Muslim in name is a potential terrorist. We need to treat people as individuals. And under our Constitution, if somebody claims to be a professing Muslim and still supports the United States Army, we can't keep them from enlisting. Even though I sincerely believe that it is not possible to be a good Muslim and a good American, it is very possible to be a good American and a bad Muslim.
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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #88 on: November 06, 2009, 06:34:41 PM »
She did an outstanding job.  Under pressure and taking a wound herself and the loss of fine motor skills in the situation, and she still put four into the SOB. Too bad they weren't .45's insteadd of the weaker 9mm

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Re: Mass shooting at Ft. Hood
« Reply #89 on: November 06, 2009, 07:08:17 PM »
Even his own family is calling him despicable.. I don't have an ounce of remorse for him. Call me anything you want to call me.. but I see soldiers everyday being trained to fight for us.. For their own to turn on them..is unimaginable.. I don't see any justice unless its a slow torture...before death. Like I said before.. he had the opportunity to take his on life and spare 43 other victims. HE chose to be a coward.
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