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Just move to Florida......... we will take care of it  :wink1a:   ;D

I'm jealous..... where's my invite?
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I'm jealous..... where's my invite?
Okie's family...........But we have an abundance of rich widow's that will be happy to take you in ;D
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Okie's family...........But we have an abundance of rich widow's that will be happy to take you in ;D
After all the emails I rec'v from you I thought we were family!  And believe it or not, my gigolo days are behind me!
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After all the emails I rec'v from you I thought we were family!  And believe it or not, my gigolo days are behind me!
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Dang that's to bad....... how did you break your gigolo?
have you looked into a transplant :th_thwhistling:
with modern medical tech. they can fix or replace just about anything :wink1a:   :wink1a:   ;D
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Let's think about this Saddam Hussein was convicted and found guilty by a Military Tribunal.
Then we rent him a home in Vegas and signed him up for SSI and he lived happily after right.
Oh wait no we didn't we hung the bastard by the neck until hr was DEAD,DEAD......DEAD
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So what you are saying is that a military tribunal would have hung the Uighurs instead of releasing them, and that would have been the appropriate thing to do?
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Okie, I am on vacation this week.  Preacher the inappropriate thing to do with ksm and the others is to give them a forum whereby they can invoke even more of their beliefs in a civilian trial.  The military tribunal is set up to make it a bit more private as far as the downstream news media is concerned.  What concerns me is these people committed an act of war and they are being treated as regular criminals and being given rights just like US citizens.  Not a real nice thing to do when they are the enemy and Holder will do his "best" to convict as the evidence is disallowed over one technicality or another.  They are the ENEMY.  One self confessed without any torture.  Will they disallow that because some soldier failed to read him his rights?  He has one right.  The right to remain silent.  Hopefully forever.

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The possibility of it being well publicized because it is a civil suit will be better than if it were a military affair.

This is not an endorsement of President Obama's plan, but I do not understand this argument. I have covered courts-martial repeatedly in the past. It would be extremely difficult to conduct military tribunals in the United States without the same open-court rules as provided by UCMJ for courts-martial proceedings.

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Preach where have you been.  Seems like a long time since I've seen your postings.  Welcome back.
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One self confessed without any torture.  Will they disallow that because some soldier failed to read him his rights?  He has one right.  The right to remain silent.  Hopefully forever.

He confessed to 9/11 prior to being tortured. Only the evidence found after torture would be considered inadmissable. Regardless, I think he should have to face his day in court for the crimes committed against the city of New York, state of New York, and the United States of America. They should try him specifically for his involvement in 9/11 and nothing else. And if for some reason he isn't found guilty, the military could still hold and try him for being an enemy combatant.
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 And if for some reason he isn't found guilty, the military could still hold and try him for being an enemy combatant.

Really?  I didn't know that.  I guess double jeopardy doesn't apply here?
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Really?  I didn't know that.  I guess double jeopardy doesn't apply here?

It doesn't fall under double jeopardy. Him being the mastermind of 9/11 is the crime the federal government could prosecute him on. While being an enemy combatant is a completely different situation altogether. They could find him innocent of the atrocities of 9/11, yet he is still a known leader in al Qaeda.
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Why should double jeopardy apply?  It doesn't for any of us.  If the state tres you for a crime and finds you innocent then the fed gets a crack at you for the same crime under another name/statute.  Besides, he is not an American citizen and the Constitution need not apply to him.

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Iím glad they are trying him in the US. He should be. There is no way in hell he going to get off. Matrsnot how do you for a fact that Obama will not allow them to be executed. When they tried Moussaoui the 20th highjacker the republicans were all for being done in NY saying that it show what the legal system in the US is all about. The ex mayor back then talked about he wanted done here. Now that the Dems are doing the same thing suddenly it is a bad idea. More Political BS. Nothing is going to happen he is not going to get off. Other presidents have bowed. It is no worse then Bush kissing the Saudi king and holding his hand. Everyone say they want what is best for America but what they mean what they want is best. This is such a non issue driving by the media. It is time for people to put aside their political parties, these in my opinion are the worst thing for America. While Iím on it I also think that there shouldnít be Dems or Reps on certain jobs at the local level such as sheriff or commissioners.