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ATV PERMITS
« on: January 03, 2011, 02:30:08 PM »

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Would like to know when the County will be able to issue LEGAL  permits for ATV owners to ride on county Roads ?? Have understood that these latest ones are technically not legal as the county commissioners need to enact an Ordinance regulating  the operation of ATV's in the County .... and ones being issued now are by "resolution" which means, from what I have been told...the rider may still be subject to citation by law enforcement for illegal operation of the ATV.
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Re: ATV PERMITS
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2011, 10:06:39 PM »
Would like to know when the County will be able to issue LEGAL  permits for ATV owners to ride on county Roads ?? Have understood that these latest ones are technically not legal as the county commissioners need to enact an Ordinance regulating  the operation of ATV's in the County .... and ones being issued now are by "resolution" which means, from what I have been told...the rider may still be subject to citation by law enforcement for illegal operation of the ATV.


       Most ATV road action is completely illegal. The term special uses is for handicap, parades, and so forth. RSMO below.
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All-terrain vehicles, prohibited on highways, rivers or streams of this state, exceptions, operational requirements--special permits--prohibited uses--penalty.
304.013. 1. No person shall operate an all-terrain vehicle, as defined in section 301.010, upon the highways of this state, except as follows:

(1) All-terrain vehicles owned and operated by a governmental entity for official use;

(2) All-terrain vehicles operated for agricultural purposes or industrial on-premises purposes between the official sunrise and sunset on the day of operation;

(3) All-terrain vehicles operated by handicapped persons for short distances occasionally only on the state's secondary roads when operated between the hours of sunrise and sunset;

(4) Governing bodies of cities may issue special permits to licensed drivers for special uses of all-terrain vehicles on highways within the city limits. Fees of fifteen dollars may be collected and retained by cities for such permits;

(5) Governing bodies of counties may issue special permits to licensed drivers for special uses of all-terrain vehicles on county roads within the county. Fees of fifteen dollars may be collected and retained by the counties for such permits.

2. No person shall operate an off-road vehicle within any stream or river in this state, except that off-road vehicles may be operated within waterways which flow within the boundaries of land which an off-road vehicle operator owns, or for agricultural purposes within the boundaries of land which an off-road vehicle operator owns or has permission to be upon, or for the purpose of fording such stream or river of this state at such road crossings as are customary or part of the highway system. All law enforcement officials or peace officers of this state and its political subdivisions or department of conservation agents or department of natural resources park rangers shall enforce the provisions of this subsection within the geographic area of their jurisdiction.

3. A person operating an all-terrain vehicle on a highway pursuant to an exception covered in this section shall have a valid operator's or chauffeur's license, except that a handicapped person operating such vehicle pursuant to subdivision (3) of subsection 1 of this section, but shall not be required to have passed an examination for the operation of a motorcycle, and the vehicle shall be operated at speeds of less than thirty miles per hour. When operated on a highway, an all-terrain vehicle shall have a bicycle safety flag, which extends not less than seven feet above the ground, attached to the rear of the vehicle. The bicycle safety flag shall be triangular in shape with an area of not less than thirty square inches and shall be day-glow in color.

4. No persons shall operate an all-terrain vehicle:

(1) In any careless way so as to endanger the person or property of another;

(2) While under the influence of alcohol or any controlled substance;

(3) Without a securely fastened safety helmet on the head of an individual who operates an all-terrain vehicle or who is being towed or otherwise propelled by an all-terrain vehicle, unless the individual is at least eighteen years of age.

5. No operator of an all-terrain vehicle shall carry a passenger, except for agricultural purposes. The provisions of this subsection shall not apply to any all-terrain vehicle in which the seat of such vehicle is designed to carry more than one person.

6. A violation of this section shall be a class C misdemeanor. In addition to other legal remedies, the attorney general or county prosecuting attorney may institute a civil action in a court of competent jurisdiction for injunctive relief to prevent such violation or future violations and for the assessment of a civil penalty not to exceed one thousand dollars per day of violation.

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Re: ATV PERMITS
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2011, 10:37:31 PM »
According to number 5 the county can issuse a permit. It would seem that if the county issued a person a permit then the LE should them alone. It should be up the county what is a special permit, not LE.  If this is not the case then the county should quit ripping people off.

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Re: ATV PERMITS
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2011, 01:08:29 AM »
I believe in most cases LE leaves the LEGAL ATV rider alone....those with the permit sticker, flag, warning triangle, et al. It's the ones who go out acting like fools ( speeding, intoxicated, hazardous riding )  that are more likely to get a citation. However, if the county is going to issue permits and take the ATV owner's $ 15.00, then there should be a clear ordinance to that effect ...and not a vague " special permits" wording that can be interpreted any which way one feels like it on a particular day.
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Re: ATV PERMITS
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2011, 04:36:24 PM »
Mine sits in the garrage.  A complete waste of 7K.  Occasionally I take it to St Joe but the drive prohibits most of the time.  As popular as the sport is, its amazing that there isnt a  place near by to ride.  Sure I could spend the money for a BLM permit it, but why?... Riding is limmited only to some fire roads. 

FLW closed their large riding area and recently opened a small tract of land pay per use. 

I pay taxes owning the bike, but there is no point in registering it since it cant be used in public places. 
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2011, 09:34:00 PM »
Where are these Fort Leonard Wood trails?

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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2011, 01:30:29 AM »
It was a five or fifteen acre tract near the sportsmans center. Total joke if I may add. Pay to take safety course and was pay per use.
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2011, 12:02:30 PM »
I am assuming that it is closed now.  not that I would go anyways.  The army is really good at ruining good things.  It would be an awesome place to ride if they would open all the back area up.

Did you ever find a place around here to ride?

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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2011, 04:38:50 PM »
You mean the roads are closed on FLW to riding? LOL I might refer to a "story" when a "rider" was chased on FLW near Deckers Ridge.  There was no way in hell they were going to catch him.  I would bet that they werent even familiar with all the roads and powerlines in that area.  Try catching someone that can do 90mph on a dirt road and knows the area better than most..."he" grew up around here.

Not advocating it....its against the law.

You should contact the US forestry office in Rolla about a Permit to use in the NF off Z hwy/J hwy.  You are limited to numbered forrest roads only and not allowed on trails marked closed. 

Stay away from the Big Piney as you will get a ticket for eroding the banks - not as bad as actually crossing the river, but they sit and watch for ya. 

If you have the time, St Joe state park is awesome (sand, woods trails, swimming lake and camping).  There is a place in Ava, Chadwick I think, that is really rocky, Finger Lakes north of Columbia - mostly mud.  Drive to Oklahoma, Little Sahara if you want sand dunes.  If you are up for a hell of a challenge, there are trals at Flat Nasty near Salem MO. (http://flatnasty.net/)

Otherwise us folks that want to be legal locally are screwed. 

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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2011, 07:19:48 PM »
I've been to flat nasy.  ( I ride a dirt bike by the way).  And I was a huge challenge!  That parks not designed for bikes, but the people and the atmosphere there are really nice.  I'm sure I'll go back again.  I plan on going to St. Joes and Chadwick a lot this season.  Still really sucks that there is nowhere to ride around here.  I county would make a ton of money if they would open up some land.
 
A few of my buddies have told me about some trails around the devils elbow area.  It's probably not legal, but if law enforcement doesn't car, I don't either. 

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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2011, 07:35:26 PM »
The tree cops (conservation agents) will get ya.  Again, check with the US forrest service about the actual regulations with that area.  There were a bunch of trails over there, but most are closed now. 

Try this as well
http://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/trails/missouri_list.htm
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2011, 10:50:57 PM »
I'll just stick with somewhere that I know for sure is legal.  Do you still have your ATV.  We should carpool to St. Joes.

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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2011, 12:43:23 AM »
I know people that recently got caught riding in the Devils Elbow area. That gravel road across from the Elbow Inn leads you to them, anyway they got fined $125. It use to be open

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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2011, 05:52:59 AM »
You can thank a bunch of young kids for the current efforts of the "tree cops" these kids were underage and drinking and tearing up Mark Twain National Forrest land on trails that were clearly posted "NO motorized vehicles"  They threatened campers and families fishing, chased some people on horse back etc.  The whole thing was really sad.  I really wish something had been done to the kids parents. 


Once again the actions of a few ruin it for many.  I was thinking I saw a sign somewhere last week about a place to ride.   Hummmm Not remembering.  When and if I see it again I will post the information.  I am thinking Lake or Lebanon/Stoutland.    It looked cool with jumps and such. 

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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2011, 03:31:26 AM »
I have read in the Missour Conservation about how the ATVs have really tore up some streams and farm lands. Now we are going to let them drive on county roads. Wow. Hope they have good insurance, and all the safety gear required to operate a motorcycle. You are so right they need a place to play, but it's not on the county roads. I had one of them little mopeds pull out right in front of me by macd's in St Roberts and just smile. Her helmet was so big on her I doubt she could even see well. With gas getting higher I hate to say it but I bet we will see more and more of them.
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