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Author Topic: JUNE 22-STATE SENATOR BLAMES CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR EXCESSIVE FLOODING  (Read 1356 times)

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JUNE 22-STATE SENATOR BLAMES CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR EXCESSIVE FLOODING


   

AS FLOODWATERS RISE ALONG THE MISSOURI RIVER ACROSS THE REGION, SAVANNAH'S STATE SENATOR WANTS TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND HOW THEY CONTROL THE BIG MUDDY.
REPUBLICAN BRAD LAGER SAID HE WANTS TO SEE A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION INTO THE CORPS AND ITS RIVER MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, AFTER RECORD WATER RELEASES FROM UPSTREAM RESERVOIRS HAVE SEVERELY SWOLLEN THE MISSOURI'S BANKS IN NUMEROUS STATES.
LAGER SAYS THE MASTER MANUAL THAT DICTATES HOW THE RIVER IS MANAGED IS BEING USED BY THE CORPS TO SHIELD ITSELF FROM ACCUSATIONS OF WRONGDOING....

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HE SAYS IT MIGHT BE EASY TO PLACE BLAME ON GOVERNMENT AND CORPS LEADERS, BUT ADDS THAT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT SHOULD WORK TO ENSURE FLOODING LIKE THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN....

   right-click to download mp3 "this insanity stopped." :24

SAVANNAH STATE SENATOR BRAD LAGER SAYS HE IS DISAPPOINTED WITH WHAT HE FEELS IS A LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT IN THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. THE CORPS IS ADVISING LOCAL LEADERS AND COMMUNITIES ALONG THE MISSOURI RIVER THAT FLOODING DUE TO RESERVOIR RELEASES WILL LIKELY CONTINUE ALL SUMMER LONG IN SOME PLACES.

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Yeah...its a Corps conspiracy.....wtf?
 
Maybe Lager should try blaming God, or Mother Nature....oh heck...That lil El Nino guy......
 
I like the part where all levels of govt should work to ensure it doesnt happen again - maybe they can leave their offices and become human sham-wows when it starts to drizzle.....
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While I havenít talked to Sen. Lager, I suspect he is talking about the Corp doing thinks like blowing levies that flood some peopleís homes and land to protect others and their release of water to protect recreational interests in the upper waterways which results in additional flooding in the lower part of Missouri (which was already maxed on water).  IMO, recreational interests (which have always come first it seems) should be secondary to peopleís homes and the part of the nation which is a huge supplier of food in Missouri.

I may be wrong but I am betting that is what he is talking about.
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My sister lives in the bootheel and from what she says, neighbors are saddened but - its part of the risk to save others - poor Elk gonna get hoof rot.....its either blow some levies or lose metro areas...sometimes you have to do whats good for the masses.I personally dont thing the Corps of Engrs arent "hiding" behind their SOPs. They work so very hard to maintain recreational, conservation and agri areas - when they flood them they know they are washing away their hard work....IMO its not the them against us. However, I do think its typical government theology - grant a body powers to oversee and maintain - then blame the crap out of them when not every citizen is happy - revamp them so 8 other subcommittees can tell the original body how to do their job.  Its like having the USDA & FDA and Head of Education approving Armed Forces actions - sure, tell the Army their meat is good and the Motrin they dispense is good - but you cant let them plan operations.
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(Wait im still grumpy)
 
Levels of government should step in to ensure homes & lives are protected - a prime example, Cordova, Alabama a couple of months ago- some little town in the south that got wiped out by a tornado - the mayor refuses to allow his pride and joy to become over ran with FEMA trailers and become a trailer park - has banned them - so residents have 2 choices, leave their hometown, or continue to live in tents in what used to be their front yard - there is a situation where multilevel govt agencies need to step in.....you can even find that headline in UK media - but you dont see any headline from Senators saying...we wont allow this in smalltown America.
 
Just search "mayor refuses to allow FEMA trailers"
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For those that might not know (from Susie's comment), Sen. Lager has not given them any authority, that is the feds, he is just a Missouri State Senator asking the feds who have done that to have their policy looked at.  That said, when I was on the Missouri Farm Bureau Board of Directors, we were begging for changes in the master plan about 18 years ago, did no good then, won't now.  Recreation/tourist interests almost always win over agriculture when it comes to water releases.

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I learn something new everyday and every post.......and always appreciate your insight and knowledge of facts Sir....And I regret slamming Sen Lager personally...
 
It jsut gets me going sometimes when Government's first thought to problem solving is to call in MORE government to fix things.....when I think if they went to the local coffee shop and ask the little people for solutions - they could learn alot more than someone brought in to sit on a committee who has no subject matter expertise.  Its a catch 22, in general, regarding subject matter experts - lil farmer doesnt have the monies to leave the homestead standing still and go campaign and run for election, he/she may win the votes of neighbors, but not the populous areas across the state....but the lawyer and doctor do...so they win. So then you have some doc sitting on a committee to oversee levee control - well, thats great if the Mississippi if stocked with typhoid....but in reality...we need some engineering knowledge, ag knowledge and weather forecasting outcome knowledge advising. Seems like when there is a call for multi agencies to work together, you end up with the TSA or some irrelevant (to the task at hand) agency with their hands in the mix. And, like Rep Day eluded to, you can gather info and facts from the lil man, and take it to an agency and often that knowledge falls upon deaf ears.
 
If they talk to the rice producers of the bootheel, and hell, even the duck hunters (who bring in major monies to the towns in the south) they have some very creative and realistic solutions to water management/flood mngt of tributaries. But somehow it would turn into a 2nd Amendment agenda or an ag agenda and the ideas would never go anywhere.  The same could be found in Davenport and every farm between here and there.
 
I know everything is about the almighty dollar.....and I know someday the maintenance and creation of rec areas will stop.....but, on a personal note....I appreciate those rec areas today and always have- because this summer we are doing the one tank of gas, throw some soda and bologna in the cooler and doing weekend trips - because we cant afford the out-of -state (FL, Wisconsin Dells) vacations year. Rural America(Agriculture) is dying...and the urban folks have to go spend their money somewhere.
 
IMO:The Army Corps of Engrs and FEMA have the two worst jobs...(protect lands/infrastructure and life).....they are against an intangible force - mother nature...they can plan and prepare....but sometimes they can only do what they can do. The Engrs are in a tight spot - save the ag industry or appease the recreational boaters/users.....on scale - farmers purchase more fuel and equipment in a six month period than the metro guy spends on his  speed yaught....but, the metro area voters have the numbers in elections and spending cash.....
 
I come from a long line of dairy, beef and grain producers....so I understand the pain...
 
The good news is - it has stopped raining - so im off of here and back to work outside...woohooo!
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All part of the master plan.  Conspiracy.  Get rid of the rural areas and population so the dems have a greater voting base.  LOL.  Sarcasm off.

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LOL matrsnot
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