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Re: Radar Traps in St. Robert?
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2011, 08:57:27 PM »

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Drove by there today, cars backing out from the front of businesses do not have to back into the road to back out.. There is plenty of room behind them. Now beyond the businesses there are 4 or 5 spots that perhaps employees park in and they would have to back up into the road to get out. Was told at the Hub that they are there almost everyday hiding where the old motorcycle building is. The stop sign coming out of the hub is at the back side of the parking spots, perhaps if a van or large truck was there you couldn't see over it, but it didn't look like an issue to me. The people at the Hub say they are getting complains about the harrasment of their customers and think it is hurting their business.

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Re: Radar Traps in St. Robert?
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2011, 01:26:41 AM »
I had to go to the bus station today and they were sitting there.  They were not hiding though, they were in plain site.  Just beware that they are out there.  Must have found a gold mine there.
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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2011, 03:34:41 AM »
I had to go to the bus station today and they were sitting there.  They were not hiding though, they were in plain site.  Just beware that they are out there.  Must have found a gold mine there.

The police officers don't benefit from giving tickets..... just obey the law and you have nothing to worry about. :-) I'm speaking to myself too..... I'm terrible at noticing speed changes... I swear my vehicle only goes one speed... stop and "go" hah
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Re: Radar Traps in St. Robert?
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2011, 03:49:49 AM »
The police officers don't benefit from giving tickets..... just obey the law and you have nothing to worry about. :-) I'm speaking to myself too..... I'm terrible at noticing speed changes... I swear my vehicle only goes one speed... stop and "go" hah
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Re: Radar Traps in St. Robert?
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2011, 12:32:51 PM »
This is an interesting thread and got me thinking.   How much time do the police spend on traffic enforcement?
I went to the Attorney General’s Site and pulled numbers off there.  For 2010,
Dixon, a population of 1535, made 30 traffic stops and wrote 10 tickets (33% of the stops resulted in tickets) or 1.9% of their population was stopped.
Richland, a population of 1775, made 715 traffic stops and wrote 162 tickets (22% of the stops resulted in tickets) or 40% of their population was stopped.
St Robert, a population of 3422, made 3745 stops and wrote 1381 tickets (37% of the stops resulted in tickets) or 109% of their population was stopped.
Waynesville, a population of 3796, made 3287 stops and wrote 1456 tickets (44% of the stops resulted in tickets) or 86% of the population was stopped.
Sheriff’s Office, a population of 44522, made 526 stops and wrote 78 tickets (14% of the stops resulted in tickets) or 1.1% of the population was stopped.
I know that the stops were not of the population exclusively, and I know the population numbers are disputed, but this is from the uniform crime and traffic stop reports on the attorney general webiste.
So what does this mean?  Well to me, a voter, who is not one of the people who got a ticket, it means based on population, in St Robert you are more likely to get stopped and more likely to get a ticket in Waynesville.
I just thought I would add this to the discussion.

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Re: Radar Traps in St. Robert?
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2011, 01:58:28 PM »
St Robert, a population of 3422, made 3745 stops and wrote 1381 tickets (37% of the stops resulted in tickets) or 109% of their population was stopped.

what these numbers dont tell you is how many were repeate offenders.  i hear people all the time talking about how they got pulled over..."again"...It could be closer to 70% of the population that just cant seem to learn thier lesson

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Re: Radar Traps in St. Robert?
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2011, 02:14:37 PM »
St Robert, a population of 3422, made 3745 stops and wrote 1381 tickets (37% of the stops resulted in tickets) or 109% of their population was stopped.
Waynesville, a population of 3796, made 3287 stops and wrote 1456 tickets (44% of the stops resulted in tickets) or 86% of the population was stopped.


Yep all that and people still out there driving like idiots.... Running red lights, blowing stop signs, exceeding speed limits and lets not even talk about drunks and dopers.....

I am glad that Waynesville and St Bob are doing what they are paid to do... KEEP it up men and womwn in blue....

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Re: Radar Traps in St. Robert?
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2011, 02:25:29 PM »
The police officers don't benefit from giving tickets..... just obey the law and you have nothing to worry about. :-) I'm speaking to myself too..... I'm terrible at noticing speed changes... I swear my vehicle only goes one speed... stop and "go" hah


I'm aware the police "officers" don't get anything from the tickets, but I believe the city does.
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Re: Radar Traps in St. Robert?
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2011, 02:34:39 PM »
I agree, they are only doing their job and I'm glad they are.  I have never gotten a speeding ticket, EVER!!!  I did get one for talking on my cell phone on post, but in my defense I just started working there and didn't see the BIG SIGN at the front gate.  LOL 

I just wish they would come to my neighborhood.  It is a prime spot to issue speeding and failure to stop tickets.  Also, drivin on the City Route, which is 45, you would think we were driving the Indy 500.  I know some of those people who pass me are going 60 at least.  They should sit there between 4 and 5 in the evening and 6:30 and 7:30 in the morning.  They could designate the money they get in fines to build a large storm shelter.  It could be paid for in less than a year if they could ticket everyone who is speeding.
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Re: Radar Traps in St. Robert?
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2011, 02:50:04 PM »
The day I received my ticket I came to a complete stop on VFW for at least 15 seconds (in sight of the officer) because another vehicle was blocking the road and facing the wrong way on the road for at least the 15 seconds I was stopped waiting for it to move. No telling how long it set their before I came to a stop.  I don't believe I was the one creating a traffic hazard. I thought the roads were for driving on not parking and blocking the street.  The officer wasn't giving that individual any assistance.  I came to a safe stop and waited for the real hazard to move out of the way so I could get by.  If my speed was truly unsafe for that area I wouldn't have been able to stop leaving the vehicle blocking the road three car lengths of space between us.  I simply gently applied my breaks and stopped. I was taught when I first started driving that you don't stop or block roads that you drive on them and get your tail end of the road before you get hit. I was surprised that he pulled me over and when he said it was for speeding I didn't believe it I had to drive back down the road later that day to validate the speed limit posted. I couldn't believe approxiately 90% of the road is 25 and that small section of the road was posted 15 when the school zones near Freedom is posted 25.       

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Re: Radar Traps in St. Robert?
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2011, 04:19:29 PM »
-sitting in parking lot of subway St Robert
-sitting on gravel area near wher rick got his his ticket
-sitting by main post gate
-sitting by propane tank at pauls
-sitting by wall at end of municipal center parking lot
-sitting in the roadside park in st robert

listen to the scanner on a friday night.  St bob police turn into the revenue collectors.  People pulled over for every little thing. 

My wife was pulled over near the main gate.  The officer couldnt tell her how fast she was going but said she was speeding.  Other cars were passing her and she is very concious of her speed because of the type of car is a cop magnet.  He refused to show her the speed on the radar, then said he visually estimated her speed then wrote her a warning.  It was a BS stop.

People like her get pulled over but the (insert explicative here) driving the red Kia Forte that lives in Country Oaks and works on post.  (looks like http://autos.yahoo.com/kia/forte-koup/2011/sx/)  Lives in country oaks, so he travels East Lawn and drives to post.  When on MO avenue he weaves in and out of trafic and at least 60mph at times.  THAT person needs a talking to. 
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Re: Radar Traps in St. Robert?
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2011, 01:28:36 PM »
 
 
"""Sheriff’s Office, a population of 44522, made 526 stops and wrote 78 tickets (14% of the stops resulted in tickets) or 1.1% of the population was stopped."""""
 
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Re: Radar Traps in St. Robert?
« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2011, 03:07:33 PM »
Cops, most people don't like them ..till you need one

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Re: Radar Traps in St. Robert?
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2011, 02:49:43 AM »
Cops, most people don't like them ..till you need one

I like them, even when I don't need them. ;-) I was really gonna try and keep it zipped but those who know me... well know better. :-) haha

I appreciate the job they do as I see it every day of my life. I see anxiety and fear waiting on blood results after being spit on by people with hepatitis and other communicable diseases.  I see hurt and heartache when a decision has to be made to remove a child from a bad home.  I see the birthday parties missed, and holidays with a missing love one at the table.  I see children's faces disappointed because daddy couldn't make the soccer game, dance recital or family movie night because some body decided they were gonna break the law and the job doesn't end just because the clock says the shift is over.  It's a profession of honor and integrity, one they chose to have out of love of helping others. 

When I see the badge I see sacrifice of ones own self for the worth and value of others.

They work very hard and I wish people could see what I see on a daily basis, perhaps, maybe people would reconsider the inconvenience of an occasional traffic stop.
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« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2011, 03:03:29 AM »
I like them, even when I don't need them. ;-) I was really gonna try and keep it zipped but those who know me... well know better. :-) haha

I appreciate the job they do as I see it every day of my life. I see anxiety and fear waiting on blood results after being spit on by people with hepatitis and other communicable diseases.  I see hurt and heartache when a decision has to be made to remove a child from a bad home.  I see the birthday parties missed, and holidays with a missing love one at the table.  I see children's faces disappointed because daddy couldn't make the soccer game, dance recital or family movie night because some body decided they were gonna break the law and the job doesn't end just because the clock says the shift is over.  It's a profession of honor and integrity, one they chose to have out of love of helping others. 

When I see the badge I see sacrifice of ones own self for the worth and value of others.

They work very hard and I wish people could see what I see on a daily basis, perhaps, maybe people would reconsider the inconvenience of an occasional traffic stop.
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« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2011, 03:33:33 AM »
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« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2011, 03:58:06 AM »
I have nothing against Police. I know they do a job above and beyond what is ecpected at times. But sometime they are made to do Jobs above and beyond Common sense that the City makes them do. Like write tickets in obscure areas no one pays much attention to for revenue. The road were talking about Is 90 percent 25 Miles an hour. Theres about 800 to 1000 feet thats 15 and its the widest and least needed to have a lower speed limit. Someone said it was because the daycare was there. Well I went and looked and the speed limit changes just past the daycare where it wouldnt benifit the daycare in any way. So Its a definite speed trap. I had pictures and was going to fight my ticket BUT.....the Court date on my ticket had a August 5th date but looked very much like August 8th So I missed my courtdate and HAD to pay the fine to avoid a warrant. 84 Dollar Ticket .
She pulled 2 over right after me so 240 bucks in less than a half hour...Assuming they were doing  25 to 30......Multiply that by 30 days....Its a goldmine.
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« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2011, 04:30:42 PM »
maybe this should be looked in to by the Pulaski County Daily and brought up at a council meeting?

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Re: Radar Traps in St. Robert?
« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2011, 05:05:47 PM »
Speaking of needing a talking to.  Can someone please pull over the guy in the green camaro with black racing stripes, before I get fed up and accidently put a pit manuever on him and put him out of commision for a month or two.  Ive literally seen this guy going 100 on Missouri ave on numerous occasions.

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« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2011, 06:06:45 PM »
I can attest to that.....MO Ave looked like the grand Prix this morning.  The Police were set up on Old Rt 66....I guess that meant, take a right on to Mo Ave and step on the gas....


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« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2011, 07:39:51 PM »
There are alot of dingbats Id love to teach a lesson to.  Every time I drive "the car" someone tries to race me.  I sit patiently in the lane until they look like a complete A$$ screaming out of the intersections.  What they dont realize is that they will be the first to get hit by cross traffic
 
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« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2011, 12:52:43 AM »
Forgot to post the picture of a St. Robert cop taking a joy ride at 40 miles per hour on the back of a patrol car by Kentucky fried Chicken. Here it is.. Wonder what the fine for that would be??

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« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2011, 01:28:40 AM »
Forgot to post the picture of a St. Robert cop taking a joy ride at 40 miles per hour on the back of a patrol car by Kentucky fried Chicken. Here it is.. Wonder what the fine for that would be??

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« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2011, 02:49:30 AM »
Heard on the radio, not sure where it took place, i think on the east coast somewhere.  That a man got a ticket and went in and fought the ticket and won.  But still had to pay 80+ dollars non refundable for filing fees etc..since he made a living and could pay those fees.. but if he had been homeless or low income he wouldnt have had to pay.  Took it to supreme court of the state and lost.