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The Facts...
« on: December 13, 2011, 03:04:47 PM »


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Looks Like Roy Blunt Voted Yes......
Fact Sheet: New Law Allowing for Indefinite Military Detention for Americans Without Charge or Trial
- S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act passed by a 93 -7 vote in the U.S. Senate on November 30 and now headed
toward becoming law unless vetoed by the president, allows for American citizens to be taken into military custody without
charge or trial, for life, for the first time in American history. The new law is intended to designate the entire world, including
the U.S., as the "battlefield" in the war on terror. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said in a speech on the Senate floor: “1031, the
statement of authority to detain, does apply to American citizens and it designates the world as the battlefield, including the
- The Christian Science Monitor reports: ""Legislation passed by the Senate this week and headed for the House – and a
possible presidential veto – could allow the US military to detain American citizens indefinitely.”
("Guantánamo for US
citizens? Senate bill raises questions," Christian Science Monitor, Dec. 3, 2011)
- The law would permanently and unconstitutionally deprive Americans of their Sixth Amendment right to a jury trial,
guaranteed in the Bill of Rights of the U.S. Constitution.
- Once in military detention there is no recourse for proving innocence. None of the protections, due process, or 230 years of
criminal law and legal processes apply. The military operates under a chain of command answerable only to the Secretary of
Defense and the president. After Obama, all presidents will inherit these powers.
- The Washington Post has confirmed a secret list of Americans to be assassinated, reporting on Jan. 26, 2010: "The military's
Joint Special Operations Command maintains a target list that includes several Americans...U.S. officials have said that the
government is prepared to kill U.S. citizens who are believed to be involved in terrorist activities that threaten Americans."
There is no way to determine who is on the list, as it is "classified."
("U.S. military teams, intelligence deeply involved in aiding
Yemen on strikes," Washington Post, by Dana Priest, Jan. 27, 2010)
- The law's primary sponsors are Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI).
(Chris Anders, Senior Legislative
Counsel for ACLU, Washington office, "Senators Demand the Military Lock Up of American Citizens in a “Battlefield” They
Define as Being Right Outside Your Window," Nov. 23, 2011, )
- The only U.S. senators who voted against the law, "7 Patriots" are: Jeff Merkley [D], Tom Harkin [D], Ron Wyden [D],
Thomas Coburn, [R], Mike Lee [R], Rand Paul [R], and Bernie Sanders .
- The Oath of Office of the U.S. senator, required by the Constitution before assuming duties, as well as any American military
officer, is: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all
enemies, foreign and domestic…” The Oath makes no mention of defending territory, the president, or anything other than the
Constitution. The Founders intended that defense of the Constitution come before all else. Thomas Jefferson said: "I consider
trial by jury as the only anchor ever yet imagined by man, by which a government can be held to the principles of its
constitution." By violating their Oath to protect and defend the United States Constitution, these senators have made
themselves "domestic enemies" of the Constitution.
- Case law has until now been ambiguous on the government's ability to designate American citizens as "enemy combatants"
for life. The authority of the executive branch to invoke wartime powers in order to hold American citizen Jose Padilla as an
enemy combatant in 2001 was upheld by Judge J. Michael Luttig in the Fourth Circuit, but Padilla was released to a civilian
trial before the decision could be reviewed by the U.S. Supreme Court. The McCain-Levin law for the first time clearly
attempts to permanently override every citizen's right to a jury trial; under the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
(Wikipedia, "Jose Padilla")
- 18 states have public official recall laws. A few, like Rhode Island, specifically exclude federal officials, although this can be
changed by the state legislature, and recall laws can be passed by any state. Although not written into the Constitution, the
power to recall federal officials is grounded in the Tenth Amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the
Constitution nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
- Opposition to what amounts to a blatant betrayal of the Oath of Office has united Americans from different parts of the
political spectrum as never before.
For more information see: “We Are All Really Bradley Manning Now: Senate Passes Military Detention for American

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Re: The Facts...
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 03:29:20 PM »
I would contact his office with questions on his vote.
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2011, 03:46:40 PM »
Mr. Day, were you aware that this was being voted on?   

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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2011, 04:50:49 PM »
No I wasn't, I have been working on stuff at the state level.  I can't keep up with what my job is and everything they do at the federal level.

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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2011, 05:48:27 PM »
Thank you I will take your advise and go to the federal level.  Thank you for your timely response.