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Is the U.S. no longer a Super Power?
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While there has been growing concern that the United States is slowly losing ground as the world's dominant Superpower, Robert Kagan, author of the new book, The World America Made, believes it's all in our head.
"I think that the basic measures of power indicate that the United States really is just as strong as it's ever been," says Kagan, "People have talked themselves into this notion that we no longer have the capacity to play the role we've been playing."
But as the United States begins to pull troops out of Afghanistan, after already pulling out of Iraq, there are questions as to whether America has the resources to assert its power in future conflicts, including the brewing situation with Iran.
"I don't think it's a question of whether we can afford it," says Kagan "we certainly have that capability,"
Kagan doesn't deny that countries like China, whose international power is clearly growing, are a threat to America. Rather, his point is that the threat is nothing new. "We tend to sort of fantasize about the past, a past when the United States was allegedly able to do whatever it wants whenever it wanted to, and that past never existed."
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Re: Is the U.S. no longer a Super Power?
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2012, 08:54:32 AM »
America Has been tore down by poor decisions of our leaders to declare war on countries not really involved in 9-11. Sure some of the folks involved lived in those regions, but the reasons we were there were bogus. Osama Bin Ladin was found, supposedly, in pakistan.....not afganistan. and no weapons of mass destruction were ever found in Iraq, so the reasons we were in those countries were bullshit. So we have lost clout in the world. 8 years of a retard guided by retards following 4 years of "Change" have driven this country to its knees financially , morally and popularly. we have few friends in the united nations these days and we look like baffoons in the world . Now our Smart leaders are reducing the military down to nothing again. I feel like all the dumb kids in school are now running things. And judging by the attitude of my own children regardless of what I try to teach them.and other kids these days...we are screwed.
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Re: Is the U.S. no longer a Super Power?
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2012, 09:08:46 AM »
I feel like we are riding a dead horse. In my heart I KNOW whats gonna happen. As soon as we pull out the savages and bastards are gonna take over again overthrowing their government and many lives will be lost a torture and murder and rape and rampage killings will take place again. We didnt do shit.Only way to actually stop all this crap is drop the big one and turn the entire region into glass.
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Re: Is the U.S. no longer a Super Power?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2012, 01:18:08 AM »
the US will remain a super power despite nobama. what some are overlooking is the american people. we are resilient. 9/11 didn't defeat us and nobama continues to be the #1 gun salesman. nobama's scam are coming apart. even his plan to cut back 80% of our nukes won't go. it would take time to iversee something the next president could overturn, if it was passed to begin with. I am optimistic the US will prevail despite nobama.

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Re: Is the U.S. no longer a Super Power?
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2012, 08:43:12 AM »
Not any more. people are sheep following the trends and popular ideas. No one stands up for anything now. you have occupy wallstreet...thats it. Im thinking if it werent for rednecks we would have no national guard.....and Im not talking about the military group known to help out when needed.....Im talking about the average gun owning American willing to throw down to support his country

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Re: Is the U.S. no longer a Super Power?
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 05:29:07 AM »
I do not think Bush was a retard. He did what a president was to do in a time of crises. Everyone knows the world thought Iraq had WMD and Hussane said so. His bad. We got allot of folks that want to sit on their thumbs while Iran gets WMD. There are folks that want to hurt you and your kids bad, and don't care what the cost is. Do you really want to bet on someone that just wants to say I am sorry, or someone that will say you better not or you will pay before you get the chance. We need a Iron fist president right now. Folks we are going to look like Greece soon if something isn't done soon. Bet on it!
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Re: Is the U.S. no longer a Super Power?
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 02:10:00 PM »
too many people affraid of their own shadows.  but hey thats how they get people to join and fight for the cause. the only threat to us in the middle east is the oil we cant have. all the people of the rest of the world wants is for us to mind our own business. we cant because we are so self rightous and proud to be american that we can not see the truth.

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Re: Is the U.S. no longer a Super Power?
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2012, 05:19:21 PM »
where would the world be if not for the US? we are not better than anyone else, but many countries would not have the freedoms they have if it were not for the US. what happened when saddam invaded kuwait? what happened in grenada? I suppose we should have just minded our own business in wwll,korea? saddam had wmd. 500 tons of yellow cake uranium was moved to canada. we should have left obl alone? nobama has damaged our standing in the world, but who do countries call on when they need help?
W did what needed to be done. he should have just turned the other cheek after 9/11?
the oil in the middle east would  not be  a threat to our way of life if nobama and other elected officials would allow the keystone pipeline and more drilling in anwr. we also have the saudi equivalent in coal but nobama wants to bankrupt the coal companies. almost half of our electricity comes from coal. we need to expand or use our vast amount of natural gas. we can be far more independent in our power resources but nobama will not allow it. despite his apology tour, there are many countries that do look at us for help and protection, despite the words of those that hate their own country.

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Re: Is the U.S. no longer a Super Power?
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2012, 09:40:06 PM »
I do remember some years back we played with the idea of natural gas vehicles. I remember buses for mass transportation using natural gas doing testing. I read somewhere the United States is the Saudi Arabia equivilent of natural gas. Such a mass quanity it couls last for 100`s of years or more. Then all of a sudden you dont hear much about it anymore? Was it dangerous? In accidents did vehicles explode?Too costly to conform autos? I sure would like to know cause this oil crap depending on middle east oil sucks.
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Re: Is the U.S. no longer a Super Power?
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2012, 12:30:14 AM »
Natural gas shouldn't be any more hazardous than the propane many vehicles use now.

I'd like to see how this works out http://www.canadianbusiness.com/article/70601--company-pitches-coal-to-gasoline-plan-to-lawmakers

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Re: Is the U.S. no longer a Super Power?
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2012, 12:45:12 PM »
If Bill Clinton did such a bad job,then I wonder why he is up for the Nobel Prize?
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Re: Is the U.S. no longer a Super Power?
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2012, 12:56:06 PM »
key stone is a joke its tar sand oil it cost more to make oil that way then we are paying for gas now. the oil from keystone wouldnt be sold here anyway. the problem with natural gas is it takes more to make the same as gasoline and its not much cheapier. shale oil, tar sand and natural gas are all very expensive to harvest.  people are so worried about the right they cant see whats to come. coal is a very destuctive energy source and we have a limited supply. oh and fish i am pretty sure our standing in the world went bad before obama. it didnt take a genius to figure out iraq had nothing to do with 911 and had no wmd.

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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2012, 02:10:15 PM »
I am totally against the keystone pipeline. horrible ecological damages and pollutants that would devastate land and rivers and wildlife and drinking waters. Too dangerous in my opinion. Scientists and engineers need to get real busy and figure another way to fuel automobiles before its too late
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