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Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« on: February 28, 2012, 04:46:00 PM »

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Wonder how they figure the "folks in Missouri" are 100% for this?
 
MOUNTAIN GROVE, Mo.     A Wyoming-based company has been considering building a horse meat processing plant in southwest Missouri, where some residents welcome the possibility of new jobs but others are concerned about possible stigma.  Unified Equine has been conducting a feasibility study on a plan to build the plant east of Mountain Grove near the Wright-Texas county line. Wyoming state legislator Sue Wallis created the company last November after Congress approved a bill allowing the U.S. Department of Agriculture to begin inspections again for horse meat plants.  Wallis told KY3-TV she is confident the plant will open perhaps by the end of the year and that it would initially bring 40 to 55 jobs to the area, with possible expansion to more than 100.  "We wanted a state that was supportive of our efforts, and the folks in Missouri are 100 percent on board with what we're trying to do and how we're trying to do it," Wallis said.  The plant would slaughter and process about 200 horses a day in one shift, or up to 400 a day if there were two shifts of workers, and then distribute the horse meat to ethnic and specialty markets in the U.S. and abroad, Wallis said.  Supporters say in addition to bringing jobs to the area, the plant would put suffering or neglected horses out of their misery. Critics say they can't stomach the idea of horses being processed for meat.
Mountain Grove resident Danita McCraig said the plant would encourage people to move away.
"Everywhere you go, everybody's talking about it, the slaughter plant coming in," McCraig said. "It's sad they picked Mountain Grove to do something like that in, because basically, we have a good little town here, and I'm not originally from here. I'm a transplant, but I still have pride in the town, and I don't want it abused."
Nathan Kelly, owner of Wright County Livestock Auction, said horses often go for only about $50 at the monthly auction. He believes a meat market would increase their value and lead to fewer horses living neglected and malnourished.
"If you have an owner who can't give an animal away, can't afford to feed it, if they're working for $10 or $12 an hour, they can barely afford to feed their own family, much less their horse, so they're going to take care of their family first," Kelly said.
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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2012, 05:44:24 PM »
I don't mind what people in other countries eat. What is the difference between a horse and a cow sans the "cute factor"? This will spur the ecconomy and also limit animal abuse. Now instead of n unwanted horse being neglected the farmer can sell at a decent price. It is not as if they will be slaughtering prized animals....
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2012, 05:49:57 PM »
Really? 200-400 horses will be slaughtered each DAY?
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2012, 06:51:59 PM »
Would you rather they starve to death in a field or be eaten alive because they are too sick to fight off coyotes? They got rid of the slaughter plants in the US and now horses are pretty much worthless. No, it's not a pretty picture but what about other slaughter houses of other meats? I've see horses in poor conditions all over the place....that's not a pretty picture either. People define humanity in different ways.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2012, 07:17:58 PM »
To tell you the truth, there are people who would take horses as pets if they knew where they were.  Or what is it, do they put a $500 pricetag on a worthless, neglected, starving horse?  Or just load them up and sell them to a slaughterhouse?  Why not ask people who would take them first?  But that's not what these a-holes want.  It's like the burros in Texas.  Open season to go out and shoot as many as you can.  But not put out an ad for people to come get one or two to keep as pets.  The Amish use horses for work and take care of them.  Why not offer the horses to them?  Well, regardless....Missouri "folk" are not 100% for it, so bon appetite to you.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2012, 09:21:06 PM »
The Human Society is always looking for people to take in animals to foster. Maybe all these people should contact them and get on their list.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2012, 09:27:45 PM »
To tell you the truth, there are people who would take horses as pets if they knew where they were.  Or what is it, do they put a $500 pricetag on a worthless, neglected, starving horse?  Or just load them up and sell them to a slaughterhouse?  Why not ask people who would take them first?  But that's not what these a-holes want.  It's like the burros in Texas.  Open season to go out and shoot as many as you can.  But not put out an ad for people to come get one or two to keep as pets.  The Amish use horses for work and take care of them.  Why not offer the horses to them?  Well, regardless....Missouri "folk" are not 100% for it, so bon appetite to you.
To follow your logic then,  why not offer cattle, pigs, chicken, turkeys, fish, etc etc; and offer them to people instead of to processing plants.  Yes Amish and Menonites use horses, for work and travel, but they dont have more than what they need.  Have you ever eaten horse meat? I have it taste good, why not process and sell to consumers.

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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2012, 09:40:10 PM »
my neighbor adopted a horse that was found tied to a tree, starving and no water. how many have not been found before it is too late? a slaughter house would prevent a lot of this from happening.

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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2012, 09:49:44 PM »
There are people who just let them go, this is dangerous to drivers and the horses. There are places that adopt these horses and that is wonderful. But there are just too many of them now that can't be cared for.
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2012, 09:57:05 PM »
To follow your logic then,  why not offer cattle, pigs, chicken, turkeys, fish, etc etc; and offer them to people instead of to processing plants.  Yes Amish and Menonites use horses, for work and travel, but they dont have more than what they need.  Have you ever eaten horse meat? I have it taste good, why not process and sell to consumers.
I don't know if any of you are old enough to remember, But when McDonalds started out there hamburgers had at least 20% horse meat AND THEY WERE THE BEST EVER.
Then the hamburger police bitched so much the changed.
But not for the better... there beef came from old milk cows who had past there prime, Texas prarrie steers and other junk beef.
BRING BACK THE HORSE BURGERS THEY WERE GREAT!!
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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2012, 10:06:19 PM »
BLM will add a lot horses to the mix.

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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2012, 10:09:28 PM »
To tell you the truth, there are people who would take horses as pets if they knew where they were.  Or what is it, do they put a $500 pricetag on a worthless, neglected, starving horse?  Or just load them up and sell them to a slaughterhouse?  Why not ask people who would take them first?  But that's not what these a-holes want.  It's like the burros in Texas.  Open season to go out and shoot as many as you can.  But not put out an ad for people to come get one or two to keep as pets.  The Amish use horses for work and take care of them.  Why not offer the horses to them?  Well, regardless....Missouri "folk" are not 100% for it, so bon appetite to you.

do you have any idea what it cost to feed a horse? and it is even more when you dont have good grazing land.sounds like you would like to have one? lots of people are giving them away everyday because they cant afford to feed them. the problem is nobody wants an non papered horse. if you would like one for a pet i am sure we can find you one.the amish raise their own horses and breed them for the work they do they dont want these horses either. i think it is a good idea, i know many farmers down that way and i am sure they are pushin for it. now i havent tried horse meat but i am not againt it just dont tell my horse that!

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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2012, 10:30:29 PM »
A lot of them are racehorses owned by millionaires, but aren't winning anymore.  This is from wikipedia:

According to a study commissioned by USDA/APHIS when horses were still being slaughtered in the U.S., 92% of American horses being slaughtered at US plants studied were in good health. Rarely are these horses are sick and injured, as those horses have trouble withstanding the long, crowded transportation conditions to slaughter plants. Most horses bound for slaughter are brought to the slaughterhouses by contract buyers, also known as kill buyers, who drive around the country buying horses at auction.  About 90% of the horsemeat is exported for human consumption overseas, where it sells for approximately the same price as veal. The rest goes to zoos.
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« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2012, 01:02:20 AM »
 I would rather eat a healthy horse than a sick one.

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« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2012, 01:24:19 AM »
before i get in trouble im prefacing this with i know sick one probably get thru the process.  But your meat processing plants of other animals dont take sick animals either for human consumption, so why would you think they would for horses.  They might be underfed and unwanted, but i dont believe they are going to process diseased ridden horse.  Of course you will find some that would but the majority wont

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« Reply #15 on: February 29, 2012, 01:26:45 AM »
Id be willing to bet if you was starving to death and your kids were hungry and nothing was left but Trigger the horse. You`d eat that horse in a second.Ive never tasted horse meat but it cant be alot different than cow,goat,sheep,llama.tiger. If it helps the economy then Im for it.
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« Reply #16 on: February 29, 2012, 02:37:48 AM »
I'd try it.  I bet it bar b ques up good!

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« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2012, 03:37:35 AM »
If a Wyoming politician thinks its such a good idea why is she trying to put a plant many miles away from her voting demographic.   Post this story in a wyoming web site and see what people think about taking jobs out of state....or does she want her followers knowing she is slaughtering horses for meat?
 
 
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« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2012, 04:38:15 AM »
If a Wyoming politician thinks its such a good idea why is she trying to put a plant many miles away from her voting demographic.   Post this story in a wyoming web site and see what people think about taking jobs out of state....or does she want her followers knowing she is slaughtering horses for meat?

Good idea, go for it. See what you find out.
 
 
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« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2012, 04:52:10 AM »
Free Horse= $$$$ In bording and feed. I love horses. I think they are beautiful and are historicaly tied to the advancement of man through the ages. But the same can be said of cattle, deer, and a beavey of other creatures that we as Americans are accustomed to eating. Horses are far from endangered, are considered property, and are culturly accepted as a food product over seas.... As a citizen in a country in which our ecconomy is laging, where my neighbor needs a job, nearly any ecconomic boost is most accepted.
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« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2012, 04:54:08 AM »
From what I have read they are planing one in Wy and Ws as well.
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« Reply #21 on: February 29, 2012, 01:28:42 PM »
Horses are NOT bred for their meat.
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« Reply #22 on: February 29, 2012, 01:31:36 PM »
YET!
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« Reply #23 on: February 29, 2012, 01:37:22 PM »
Horses are considered companion animals.  They work, they race, they rodeo, they entertain, etc.  So when someone tires of them ot they don't win races enough, they get sent to a slaughter house and the owner gets that "feel good" lump in their throat that they have fed a  family in some other country or zoo animals somewhere in the U.S.  I have NEVER seen an ad for free horses to someone who would want one or for $50-$200 for that matter with an explanation of why.  Got an answer for that?
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« Reply #24 on: February 29, 2012, 02:04:47 PM »
IF you`re talking to me, I dont really like getting into debates. I express my opinions as all do and whatever happens happens. Id eat a horse if it tasted good. And if it was cheaper than beef the better yet. People eat dogs and fish and squirrels and some native tribes eat each other! I think you will see horse factories very soon whether you agree or disagree with it.
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« Reply #25 on: February 29, 2012, 02:07:58 PM »
Horses are considered companion animals.  They work, they race, they rodeo, they entertain, etc.  So when someone tires of them ot they don't win races enough, they get sent to a slaughter house and the owner gets that "feel good" lump in their throat that they have fed a  family in some other country or zoo animals somewhere in the U.S.  I have NEVER seen an ad for free horses to someone who would want one or for $50-$200 for that matter with an explanation of why.  Got an answer for that?


You need to go to a livestock auction...

The reason they are coming to Missouri is it is centrally located, economically depresses, large worker base, cheap facilities..

From a business standpoint it's a win win for the local area...

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« Reply #26 on: February 29, 2012, 02:19:02 PM »
The Illegal and greencard Mexicans will be the only ones working there.


You need to go to a livestock auction...

The reason they are coming to Missouri is it is centrally located, economically depresses, large worker base, cheap facilities..

From a business standpoint it's a win win for the local area...
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« Reply #27 on: February 29, 2012, 02:27:56 PM »
The Illegal and greencard Mexicans will be the only ones working there.


Could be but it is revenue for the county and state...

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« Reply #28 on: February 29, 2012, 02:46:14 PM »
Sure..... Because Mexicans have the sense to work for money instead of gripe that they are poor.
 
And.... Ok horse "Y" isn't winning races so the owner decides to have him processed for food for export. Gets paid a little scratch for it.....beats the hell out of just putting a bullet in his head. At least the horse will be used for something.
 
Millionairs might be selling their horses to these places....but don't you think the average farmer might as well? You know the forest is made up of many trees.
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« Reply #29 on: February 29, 2012, 05:58:26 PM »
Mexicans work harder than Americans and will take crap jobs Americans wont do. We need them. BUT they have to be legal and have green cards and pay taxes or whoever hires them should be heavily fined.

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