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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #60 on: March 15, 2012, 07:21:05 PM »

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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #61 on: March 16, 2012, 11:50:32 AM »
Don't see why people are so upset. It is more humane to kill them then to let them die of neglect. From things I have heard BLM would like to send horses there. Don't know that for sure just going by a conversation I had with a guy from BLM he didn't say it out right but got that impression. I'm more mad that a person from WY is putting it in then someone from Missouri. But at least she is American.

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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #62 on: March 16, 2012, 02:48:33 PM »
I person fom Wy isn't putting it in Mo. She only introduced the bill. I think I stated it before that there will be 3 of them nation wide. I believe there will be one in Mo, Wy, and WI
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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2012, 04:53:08 PM »
OK, I'm getting a deal worked out to put 8 unwanted horses on my farm down by Joplin.  I might be able to do 2 more, but that's all I have room for.  We'll see how this works out.  And no...I'm not going to eat them. 
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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2012, 07:54:17 PM »
Did you check on the one at the Humane Society?
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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2012, 08:24:18 PM »
I don't have a trailor and my brother and I are working with a sale barn down there who will deliver them to our place nearby.  I will tell him about this horse, but my brother doesn't have a trailor either. 

Did you check on the one at the Humane Society?
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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2012, 09:50:16 PM »
OK, I'm getting a deal worked out to put 8 unwanted horses on my farm down by Joplin.  I might be able to do 2 more, but that's all I have room for.  We'll see how this works out.  And no...I'm not going to eat them. 
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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #67 on: March 17, 2012, 03:02:45 AM »
I used to own horses, and you would not believe the amount of hay those things would go through.

Coyote, how big is your farm near Joplin?
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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #68 on: March 17, 2012, 03:21:47 AM »
I can imagine alot. thats why in winter people give horses away they eat too much.They seem to be trying to turn the tables and instead of feed them feed ON them.Touchy subject
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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #69 on: March 19, 2012, 02:25:19 PM »
There are 63 acres more or less.  Twenty-three is in hay.  The other side has a pond and small wooded area and the rest pasture.  Plus a small house and two big barns.  There are now 10 horses there!  They were left over from an auction and I had them looked at by a vet.  They are ok.  One guy is skinny; not sick or mal-nourished...just skinny.  I don't have a lot of info on them yet, but I have a guy to look after them.  I don't know where this project is headed, but there are 10 horses who won't be going to the slaughter house.  Guess that doesn't really make an impact on the 200-400 who will be slaughtered each day here in Missouri, but it might make a difference to the horses.

I used to own horses, and you would not believe the amount of hay those things would go through.

Coyote, how big is your farm near Joplin?
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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #70 on: March 20, 2012, 02:41:33 AM »

Jshultz read it again. She did NOT introduce the bill she is state not federal.
Sue Wallis, a Wyoming legislator who is chief executive officer of Unified Equine, met Monday with a large crowd at the Wright County Livestock Auction to discuss plans for the plant. She said she was not swayed by opposition to the plant.
“Discussion’s over. Make all the noise you want. We’re going into business,” Wallis said.
Wallis created the company last November after Congress approved a bill allowing the U.S. Department of Agriculture to begin inspections again for horse meat plants.

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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #71 on: March 21, 2012, 12:07:52 AM »
Coyote, I have to say I am impressed, you don't just talk the talk, you followed through.

BUT, does this not show you how many horses there are out there that are not wanted? HOPEFULLY by having these plants it will raise the value of these animals and not every Tom, Dick and Harry will get them and breed them and be stuck with them and they end us dying a slow death.
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« Reply #72 on: March 21, 2012, 12:35:29 PM »
At that sale, there were only the 10.  However, I have had someone looking a a couple of them to buy!  The skinny one "Slim Shady" is very pretty speckled and calm, and another older, reddish mare.  I know what you mean.  Back in the 80's there was over-breeding of dalmation dogs because of the 101 Dalmation movie.  A LOT of puppies were born deaf or with weak bones and hyper...hard if not impossible to train (just what I heard from a shelter worker).  Many were put down because of this or because people didn't want to take the time or because kids lost interest, or they got too big...blah blah blah.  My neighbor (seriously) was going to get her daughter a pony, put a saddle on it and tie it out in the yard.  I said, well, you will need a little corral for exercise and a shelter and plenty of water and you can't leave a saddle on a horse 24-07."  I swear this is true.  She looked at me like I was crazy and said, "are you kidding me?  It's just a pony!".  Thank goodness they lost interest before they did that.  So, I can see where unwanted horses can come from. 


Coyote, I have to say I am impressed, you don't just talk the talk, you followed through.

BUT, does this not show you how many horses there are out there that are not wanted? HOPEFULLY by having these plants it will raise the value of these animals and not every Tom, Dick and Harry will get them and breed them and be stuck with them and they end us dying a slow death.
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Re: Horse Meat Processing Plant Proposed in Ozarks
« Reply #73 on: March 21, 2012, 02:02:23 PM »
EXACTLY - people need to stop breeding them or buying them without knowing what they are getting into.
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« Reply #74 on: April 03, 2012, 04:47:35 PM »
Went down to the farm for a few days to do some work and got my first chance to really "hang out" with the herd.  There's one little pony who thinks he's the boss of the others.  Had me laughing so hard!  He puts his ears down and walks backwards real fast, trying to stir one of the others to chase him.  One is a big paint with a brown face and a mark on his mouth that looks like a smile.  We call him Joker.  A big white mare is so sweet and will come get her face itched for as long as you want.  We sold one Friday...my friend walked out there with a halter and he came right up to get it on and then walked right into the trailor....going to a new home.  We ended up with 13 total, but now have 11.  There are a couple that want nothing to do with people.  When we were feeding them some apples, one actually tried to get the others to run off with him...didn't work.  The apples won.
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« Reply #75 on: April 04, 2012, 01:11:54 PM »
:-) Awesome Coyote! That is a wonderful thing you did. We have a heard near us with a pony and he stays away from the horses most of the time, but he takes no crap from them either.
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« Reply #76 on: May 07, 2012, 03:18:01 PM »
UPDATE...We have found homes (sold) 8 of the original 10 horses and we have 4 new ones.  A buckskin, 2 more brown ones and another pony.  We aren't trying to make a fortune, but so far the money has paid for the feed and medicine and feed isn't cheap.  Someone already wants the buckskin.  She's really pretty.  These four hang around together and don't really like people coming around them.  They will walk off and go stand behind a bush and peer out at us.  They will calm down I'm sure.  One of the first ones isn't doing real well.  He is over at my friend's house receiving individual care, but he isn't putting on weight and his hips are bad.  He isn't losing weight though and he gets around ok, but his hips are real thin.  He eats good and the vet didn't find anything wrong.  So we have our fingers crossed.
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« Reply #77 on: May 07, 2012, 06:28:50 PM »
That is great news and you are doing a wonderful think Coyote. Thanks for the update!
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« Reply #79 on: July 25, 2012, 07:38:05 PM »
We found homes for 5 of the last 6 horses.  And there is someone wanting to adopt Slim.  He finally started to put on weight, but he's mean from being spoiled.  Now, the pasture is burned up from the drought, so we can't get any more right away.  Plus, we have the place under contract.  The buyers want to put in another group once the pasture greens up, so I wish them luck. 
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« Reply #80 on: August 17, 2012, 07:57:09 AM »
Sure..... Because Mexicans have the sense to work for money instead of gripe that they are poor.
 
And.... Ok horse "Y" isn't winning races so the owner decides to have him processed for food for export. Gets paid a little scratch for it.....beats the hell out of just putting a bullet in his head. At least the horse will be used for something.
 
Millionairs might be selling their horses to these places....but don't you think the average farmer might as well? You know the forest is made up of many trees.
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« Reply #81 on: August 17, 2012, 12:54:38 PM »
About 12 years ago, I heard about a man who had relocated to Texas County from the Chicago area.  His farm butted up against the property owned by the Arlington race track, and taxes forced him to sell his place to the track (for a fortune) and move away.  He had bought loser racehorses dirt cheap to keep them from being slaughtered.  When he moved here back in 97 or 98, he had about a dozen (I think).  His plan was to have a riding park for disabled children.  I don't know how that turned out, but it was a nice plan.
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