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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #300 on: August 03, 2012, 03:36:36 AM »

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Why is it so hard for any of the candidates to say who their chief deputy will be or even a few who they might be interested in asking??? I know they all have someone in mind this far in to the race.... The sheriff is not really a "police officer" who's on the road writing tickets and arresting people, he will be more so a CEO of a company, you have budgets and payroll and grants and lots of number crunching... whereas your chief deputy is more of the operations guy a link between the road and the boss.  I believe the #2 position SHOULD be known... It shows what kind of administration you'll be running...

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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #301 on: August 03, 2012, 03:43:35 AM »
Could not get Anderson Bio to paste, but here is the link.  http://www.billandersonforsheriff.info/#!bio-and-experience
Stockman if you would post your whole Bio I would be glad to ask you questions from it.  I can't pull it off your website.  I have a few I would still like you to answer!
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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #302 on: August 03, 2012, 03:44:35 AM »
About
Reserve Deputy, SWAT team leader for Pulaski County Sheriff's Dept - Instructor for Missouri Sheriff's Academy - Experienced Grant Writer - Father - Husband & yes....and EMT too!
Biography
Graduated Waynesville High School - 1981
Graduated Rolla Technical Institute - Paramedic Program
State Certified Paramedic since 1991
POST approved Police Officer since 1993
POST approved Specialist Instructor
...See More
About Me
I have been married for twenty years to my wife Linda and we have three teenage boys. Our twins have autism and I have a clear understanding of special needs difficulties within our community.
Education Info
Colleges:

    Columbia College
    B.A., Criminal Justice

    Webster University
    Masters, Business Security

High School:

    Waynesville Senior High '81

Sorry not alot to tear apart hear either! I like stuff that pertains to what you are running for and not a bunch of people you pay to be a part of like all the associations some are posting about.  You cares if you are part of the Wild turkey federation.  Does that mean you can arrest turkeys? 
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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #303 on: August 03, 2012, 04:08:30 AM »
I can't even post something about JT as I can not find anything on him.  Edward would you please pull out your card and post about yourself so that we know what your qualifications are?  lol
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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #304 on: August 03, 2012, 04:20:19 AM »
Candidates, please cover some of the questions that I have put in red so that your voters can know what is going on.  Also please tell us who your number two person will be if elected.  As you know the number two person can hurt you or make it better.    We mostly know rumors such as Johnny Burgess is picking Ed Fowler, Ron Long is supposedly using Tony Clair the current Captain, Rumor mil again was JT was bringing in an old buddy from the past, Recent Rumor today was Bill Anderson is using Tony Clair but I have only heard that one once, and No Rumors what so ever on Nick Pappas number two.
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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #305 on: August 03, 2012, 05:11:00 AM »
Well all I have to say is if it is true that Ron and Bill will be using Tony Claar then they won't have my vote.

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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #306 on: August 03, 2012, 05:15:58 AM »
Below is my bio.
I was born in Springfield, Mo and raised in Independence, MO where I graduated high school in 1986.  I joined the Army Reserves in 1985 as a split option trainee and then went active duty in 1988.  Despite serving in the Army I have always been a resident of Missouri never changing my state of residency regardless of where I have was stationed. 
After being stationed at Fort Leonard Wood in 1996, My family and I decided this was where we wanted to call home upon my retirement.  The quality of life and close community ties made it an easy decision and one we have enjoyed immensely. I have been married for 23 years and have three grown children.  My two sons are both serving in the Army in the aviation field and my daughter is an officer manager for a construction company.  My wife and I enjoy traveling the Ozarks and spending as much time outdoors as possible, Missouri weather permitting of course.   
I served as a CID Special Agent in a multitude of roles and positions with my career concluding in August 2008 as the Special Agent in Charge of the Fort Leonard Wood CID Office.   I continued to serve in law enforcement upon my retirement as a reserve detective for the Pulaski County Sheriff’s Department and as a Reserve Police Officer/Evidence Technician for the Richland Police Department.  I have provided countless hours of service to both of these departments.
Education:
A.A.S. – Law Enforcement
B.A. –Criminal Justice
M.S. – Environmental Management
M.S. – Criminal Justice Administration (Will be completed in Fall of 2012)
Law Enforcement and Professional Experience:
Retired Federal Law Enforcement Officer (Army CID Special Agent).  My last assignment prior to retirement saw me serve as the Special Agent in Charge of the Fort Leonard Wood CID Office. For those who are not really familiar with CID, all CID Agents are accredited federal law enforcement officers but their jurisdiction covers anything that may have an army interest.  That includes more than a what happens on a military installation.  For instance, the Fort Leonard Wood Office covered everything south of I-70 from the Kansas to the Illinois border; five counties into Illinois and 67 counties into Arkansas.  I covered this area with 13 agents so I fully understand what it is like to cover a large area with minimal people and resources.  It can be done successfully with sound management practices and good prioritizations skills.
Reserve Detective for the Pulaski County Sheriff Department
Reserve Officer for the Richland Police Department
Licensed Missouri Peace Officer Standards and Training (P.O.S.T.) Law Enforcement Instructor
Online instructor where I teach undergraduate courses in criminal justice and terrorism
Contract Instructor for the United States National Guard Bureau where I taught Clandestine Drug/ Chemical Lab Awareness and terrorism. Nick’s Focus:
Provide professional and responsive law enforcement that serves the citizens in a progressive manner
Attack crime by utilizing thorough investigative techniques and interagency cooperation
Institute community law enforcement programs and activities to increase awareness and safety through the use of Community Policing techniques
Build a better relationship between the Sheriff’s Department and the community by being approachable, open, and understanding of individual and community concerns
Equip the Sheriff’s Department with modern and reliable equipment through the use of grants and other outside resources
Maintain an efficient operational budget while being fiscally responsible with the taxpayers’ dollars
Instill pride and professionalism in the deputies by providing training, education, and management oversight
Insure timely investigations are conducted to the best of the department’s ability and provide feedback to those who call the department for assistance
I have additional training and experience in but not limited to:
 Emergency Management
 Law enforcement response and investigation of weapons of mass destruction incidents
Criminal intelligence collection and analysis
Counterdrug Investigations and Operations
Analytical Investigative Techniques
Terrorism/Counterterrorism
Identity Theft and Fraud
Environmental Investigations
Protective Services (Executive Security)
Live chemical agent training and mass casualty triage (Center for Domestic Preparedness)
 
 
About
Reserve Deputy, SWAT team leader for Pulaski County Sheriff's Dept - Instructor for Missouri Sheriff's Academy - Experienced Grant Writer - Father - Husband & yes....and EMT too!
Biography
Graduated Waynesville High School - 1981
Graduated Rolla Technical Institute - Paramedic Program
State Certified Paramedic since 1991
POST approved Police Officer since 1993
POST approved Specialist Instructor
...See More
About Me
I have been married for twenty years to my wife Linda and we have three teenage boys. Our twins have autism and I have a clear understanding of special needs difficulties within our community.
Education Info
Colleges:

    Columbia College
    B.A., Criminal Justice

    Webster University
    Masters, Business Security

High School:

    Waynesville Senior High '81

Sorry not alot to tear apart hear either! I like stuff that pertains to what you are running for and not a bunch of people you pay to be a part of like all the associations some are posting about.  You cares if you are part of the Wild turkey federation.  Does that mean you can arrest turkeys? 

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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #307 on: August 03, 2012, 06:42:53 AM »
Fair question Lioness on the EPA Hazardous Waste Operator.
 
While the entire training may not apply certain aspects do.  We are located near a military installation that has live chemical agents on it.  We have trains that run through here as well as several highways and a major interstate where tons of hazardous materials are transported.  This is not new to anyone.  What the training does provide is safeguard procedures for personnel and how to handle certain situations.  How to identify what may be in liquid containers, rail cars, etc.  This is important for the safety of the deputies as well as the community.  The fire department and other organizations/agencies (the incident normally dictates who will respond) will normally handle these situations but many times law enforcement will be first on scene.  They need to understand what they are dealing with and what safeguards need to be taken within their capabilities.  The training targets more of a hazardous material incident that requires containment and cleanup but consists of personal protective equipment use, containment, cleanup, decontamination, etc.  This training coincides with my Environmental Investigations experience but I was actually considering the initial response by law enforcement when I included it in my bio.
 
Hope this clarifies it for you.
 
Nick Pappas for Pulaski County Sheriff
July 3
Nick's Education, Training, and Experience:

Education:

A.A.S. – Law Enforcement
B.A. – Criminal Justice
M.S. – Environmental Management
M.S. – Criminal Justice Administration (Will be completed in Fall of 2012)

Law Enforcement and Professional Experience:
- Retired Federal Law Enforcement Officer (Army CID Special Agent). His last assignment prior to retirement saw him serve as the Special Agent in Charge of the Fort Leonard Wood CID Office.
- Reserve Detective for the Pulaski County Sheriff Department
- Reserve Officer for the Richland Police Department
- Licensed Missouri Peace Officer Standards and Training (P.O.S.T.) Law Enforcement Instructor
- Online instructor for the University of Phoenix where he teaches courses in criminal justice and terrorism
- Contract Instructor for the United States National Guard Bureau wherein he taught Clandestine Drug and Chemical Lab Awareness

Additional training and experience in but not limited to:
- Emergency Management
- Law enforcement response and investigation of weapons of mass destruction incidents
- Criminal intelligence collection and analysis
- Counterdrug Investigations and Operations
- Analytical Investigative Techniques
- Terrorism/Counterterrorism
- Identity Theft and Fraud
- Environmental Investigations
- EPA Hazardous Waste Operator How does this help us?
- Protective Services (Executive Security)
Ok, I really was going to tear this apart more, but I can't there is nothing there besides the water operator I can ask about. 

I like that there is not all this crap about associations on yours, there is nothing I care about being part of an association that has nothing to do with your job.  Who cares if you belong to the mounted bicycle cop association?  Does it make you better prepared for your job, NO!  Thank you for not putting lots of extra crap that doesn't matter in your Bio.


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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #308 on: August 03, 2012, 02:06:53 PM »
If being able to run an obstacle course was made part of being able to run for sheriff then we would have only two people running for sheriff plus we would have to recall JB.
How is Johnny Burgess going to hire a full time detective? With what? How can he hire anyone if JB couldn’t do it? For the record I don’t believe any of the candidates that say they are going to hire more people? You may mean well or just saying what you think we want to hear after all your all politcians now.
I’m sure this somewhere on PCW. Is there a list of how many people work for the PCSD? How many command staff, Jailers etc? Could someone direct me to the link if it exist?

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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #309 on: August 03, 2012, 03:49:29 PM »
Candidates, please cover some of the questions that I have put in red so that your voters can know what is going on.  Also please tell us who your number two person will be if elected.  As you know the number two person can hurt you or make it better.    We mostly know rumors such as Johnny Burgess is picking Ed Fowler, Ron Long is supposedly using Tony Clair the current Captain, Rumor mil again was JT was bringing in an old buddy from the past, Recent Rumor today was Bill Anderson is using Tony Clair but I have only heard that one once, and No Rumors what so ever on Nick Pappas number two.

Really does it matter who the number 2 man is?  You are not voting on the number 2 man, and that person that is #2 can move on at any time.  Look at how many people have moved in and out in the last 10 years.  The candidates are looking to get in, their number 2 person is not running for election and can be replaced or removed at any time.  The important thing to remember is that the candidates are running, no one else is.  I know as a manager, I would look at my positions and see if I could realign an employee to fill the Detective slot (if they have a person that can fill that slot), if not I would look outside the department or consider hiring one of the reserves if possible.  If one reserve could not fill the position, personally I would see if I could hire 2 part time of course with being part time there would not be the cost of benefits, however it would cost more on the other costs.  Just my own opinion, but would work for those asking questions where would the money come from. 

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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #310 on: August 03, 2012, 05:23:55 PM »
If being able to run an obstacle course was made part of being able to run for sheriff then we would have only two people running for sheriff plus we would have to recall JB.
How is Johnny Burgess going to hire a full time detective? With what? How can he hire anyone if JB couldn’t do it? For the record I don’t believe any of the candidates that say they are going to hire more people? You may mean well or just saying what you think we want to hear after all your all politcians now.
I’m sure this somewhere on PCW. Is there a list of how many people work for the PCSD? How many command staff, Jailers etc? Could someone direct me to the link if it exist?




    No, I would not do well on the obstacle course. I am a CEO most of the time. As to the employee numbers I can post that. We have the following;

1. One Sheriff/ CEO
2. One Chief Deputy/ # 2 command/ Car program/sex offender registry
3. One Captain/ supervises all operations ours and with other depts./ supervisor all our divisions.
4. One Road Lt./ works calls and supervises road deputies
5. Eleven road deputies/ work calls/serve papers
6. Currently 8 people assigned to the jail/transport, number will drop soon as federal grant goes away
7. One evidence tech/ run evidence room/assist with on scene invst./transport items to lab and back
8. Two clerical/office deputies/ all civil & criminal paper/CCW program
9. Six dispatchers/ dispatch/door greeters/MULES & NCIC data entry/ bond takers/phone answers/pass messages to deputies etc.
 
      And that is the simple version of the department. Most people have several other jobs to boot. I kept it short.
 
              JB

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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #311 on: August 03, 2012, 07:05:41 PM »
No decisions have been made regarding my Chief Deputy position. As of this date several individuals have expressed their possible interest, both within and outside of the sheriff's office.. Before filling the Chief Deputy position, I will be opening it up for those interested to apply. I want the most qualified man/woman for the vacancy. This will be a person that closely reflects my philosophies and leadership style. This person will be a true professional who the employees of the PCSD and our citizens will respect and trust.. I will be placing more emphasis on this if I win the Republican nomination on Tuesday.

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« Reply #312 on: August 03, 2012, 09:42:48 PM »
Lioness, it is great to support a candidate, his qualifications and give recognition for his accomplishments....it is NOT necessary to dismiss or make light of another person's achievements. If YOU don't find the information useful move onto the next issue. You are going way beyond finding the best candidate when you start slinging mud and listening to rumors. Contact the individual and discuss your questions and I think you will find out, once again, they are rumors. Young teenagers learn this lesson in middle school when most gossip can be cleared up when you go directly to the source instead of running around (or getting on a public forum) saying "I heard". Did you see it? Is it true? Would you want it said of you? Clear it up before you make it public. Instead of tearing apart bios how about finding what is good about that person....if you can't find anything don't say anything at all!!!
For instance, I research information before I publically attempt to degrade someone. When I saw your "red pen" comments about Mr. Long's police bike association and endeavors as an author, I took a few moments to conduct a little research because I knew nothing about police bike work..... First, I went on line and researched the Internation Police Mountain Bike Association, to which Mr. Long belongs and is certified. I was even more impressed to see that it is an outstanding organization and it DOES have merit. The IPMBA has thousands of members worldwide and their membership is comprised of top international law enforcement agencies. Also, the classes they offer their law enforcement officials are topnotch. Along with providing additional law enforcement knowledge, this tells me that Mr. Long takes being physically fit seriously and continues to enjoy riding his bike. For Pete's sake, why can another attribute, being IPMBA certified, be worthy of "red pen" scathing? The more our law enforcement officers know, the better off  we are as citizens.
Another positive, last year I purchased both of Ron Long's books and found them to be very interesting. Mr. Long also add the side note that even though his books are labeled fictional, a lot of the stories are based on true life cases he worked which made the reading even more fascinating to me. His experiences can be nothing but advantageous for us, especially with the outrageous drug problem we have locally and in our state. I don't consider it a  bad thing that Mr. Long is capable of authoring crime novels.
I am supporting Ron Long. I feel he is qualified and will do an excellent job for our citzens and Pulaski county. However, I will not bad mouth any other candidate especially based on rumor and nor on a public forum. 
 
 
 
 
 

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« Reply #313 on: August 03, 2012, 10:14:03 PM »
Lioness, it is great to support a candidate, his qualifications and give recognition for his accomplishments....it is NOT necessary to dismiss or make light of another person's achievements. If YOU don't find the information useful move onto the next issue. You are going way beyond finding the best candidate when you start slinging mud and listening to rumors. Contact the individual and discuss your questions and I think you will find out, once again, they are rumors. Young teenagers learn this lesson in middle school when most gossip can be cleared up when you go directly to the source instead of running around (or getting on a public forum) saying "I heard". Did you see it? Is it true? Would you want it said of you? Clear it up before you make it public. Instead of tearing apart bios how about finding what is good about that person....if you can't find anything don't say anything at all!!!
For instance, I research information before I publically attempt to degrade someone. When I saw your "red pen" comments about Mr. Long's police bike association and endeavors as an author, I took a few moments to conduct a little research because I knew nothing about police bike work..... First, I went on line and researched the Internation Police Mountain Bike Association, to which Mr. Long belongs and is certified. I was even more impressed to see that it is an outstanding organization and it DOES have merit. The IPMBA has thousands of members worldwide and their membership is comprised of top international law enforcement agencies. Also, the classes they offer their law enforcement officials are topnotch. Along with providing additional law enforcement knowledge, this tells me that Mr. Long takes being physically fit seriously and continues to enjoy riding his bike. For Pete's sake, why can another attribute, being IPMBA certified, be worthy of "red pen" scathing? The more our law enforcement officers know, the better off  we are as citizens.
Another positive, last year I purchased both of Ron Long's books and found them to be very interesting. Mr. Long also add the side note that even though his books are labeled fictional, a lot of the stories are based on true life cases he worked which made the reading even more fascinating to me. His experiences can be nothing but advantageous for us, especially with the outrageous drug problem we have locally and in our state. I don't consider it a  bad thing that Mr. Long is capable of authoring crime novels.
I am supporting Ron Long. I feel he is qualified and will do an excellent job for our citzens and Pulaski county. However, I will not bad mouth any other candidate especially based on rumor and nor on a public forum.
I agree with everything you have said. This does not mean I support or not support Mr.Long.
And as far as the bike thing goes with the cars the county has it wouldn't hurt to strap a bike rack to the county cars.
I do want to say whom ever gets the job needs to keep the sheriffs weekly review going to keep the county updated as to what is happening.
Tuesday is the primary election so *PLEASE* vote for someone.
Thank you.  Good luck to all that want this thank less job with on exception. :th_tha3ab577b-1:
 
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« Reply #314 on: August 04, 2012, 01:40:46 AM »
I agree with everything you have said. This does not mean I support or not support Mr.Long.
And as far as the bike thing goes with the cars the county has it wouldn't hurt to strap a bike rack to the county cars.
I do want to say whom ever gets the job needs to keep the sheriffs weekly review going to keep the county updated as to what is happening.
Tuesday is the primary election so *PLEASE* vote for someone.
Thank you.  Good luck to all that want this thank less job with on exception. :th_tha3ab577b-1:
 
I am not picking on just one candidate or backing just one candidate, I only had one on there to "RED PEN SCRATCH" through.  I would have Mr. Anderson's if it was up there, and actually JT's if it was all listed, except I would have his whole thing jsut because I dislike how he talks about the current sheriff and the way he has done this county. 
I am sorry you really seem to have heart burn for me, but Wild Turkey Federation, Mountain biking, and a whole lists of other things really has nothing to do with what these guys can do, teach or anything else.  I also agree Mr. Long has a lot of certifications, but even a lawyer has to be certified in the state he practices.  I am not sure, but I believe Anderson, Pappas, and Burgess are the only true instructors in this state.  If one of the candidates will let us know for sure I would appreciate it.   I am just looking and speaking my opinion, and I have been on all the candidates not just one or two of them.  I am sorry this offends you, but the one person I asked repeatedly things in a PM and they ignored me, but when I asked publicly I got the answers.  I actually had seen things that I was asking about and wanted to know the truth, low and behold I got the truth when I started hounding one.

I am stating my opinion and my opinion only, if you don't care for that I am sorry, but I want to know the truth and for some they refuse to answer, I might really get worse.  We have been screwed enough by politicians and I for one plan on knowing all I can before they take office.
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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #315 on: August 04, 2012, 02:26:22 AM »
I am not picking on just one candidate or backing just one candidate, I only had one on there to "RED PEN SCRATCH" through.  I would have Mr. Anderson's if it was up there, and actually JT's if it was all listed, except I would have his whole thing jsut because I dislike how he talks about the current sheriff and the way he has done this county. 
I am sorry you really seem to have heart burn for me, but Wild Turkey Federation, Mountain biking, and a whole lists of other things really has nothing to do with what these guys can do, teach or anything else.  I also agree Mr. Long has a lot of certifications, but even a lawyer has to be certified in the state he practices.  I am not sure, but I believe Anderson, Pappas, and Burgess are the only true instructors in this state.  If one of the candidates will let us know for sure I would appreciate it.   I am just looking and speaking my opinion, and I have been on all the candidates not just one or two of them.  I am sorry this offends you, but the one person I asked repeatedly things in a PM and they ignored me, but when I asked publicly I got the answers.  I actually had seen things that I was asking about and wanted to know the truth, low and behold I got the truth when I started hounding one.

I am stating my opinion and my opinion only, if you don't care for that I am sorry, but I want to know the truth and for some they refuse to answer, I might really get worse.  We have been screwed enough by politicians and I for one plan on knowing all I can before they take office.
Lioness I do not have heartburn or anything else for you I think your fine people *BUT*
Your driving this into the ground. Mr. Long has certification as a LEO in Missouri.
Remember he was a St.Robert police officer ( ask JB about the Marlboro incident LOL)
Now this is JMO and in matters to no one but me.
Tuesday we will know who the 2 adversary's will be. Then all you have to do is pick one.
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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #316 on: August 04, 2012, 03:02:20 AM »
I am going to express my opinion on this race. I am not a 100% on who I will vote for but I already know who I will NOT vote for, JT for all obvious reasons and Anderson. I have had two interaction with him, one in which my son was a victim of violence. He was rude and very unprofessional. He lied to me and tried to send me on a wild goose chase because he was too busy moving broken down cars. I have stated in past post that I understand funding issues but it cost nothing to be professional and honest. I have no criminal history. I pay my taxes and obey the law so I feel I at least deserve to be treated with the same level of respect I give.
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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #317 on: August 04, 2012, 03:21:07 AM »
I am going to express my opinion on this race. I am not a 100% on who I will vote for but I already know who I will NOT vote for, JT for all obvious reasons and Anderson. I have had two interaction with him, one in which my son was a victim of violence. He was rude and very unprofessional. He lied to me and tried to send me on a wild goose chase because he was too busy moving broken down cars. I have stated in past post that I understand funding issues but it cost nothing to be professional and honest. I have no criminal history. I pay my taxes and obey the law so I feel I at least deserve to be treated with the same level of respect I give.
Lets just hope it is Bill Anderson that wins the democrat primary and not JT
then vote for the republican that wins there primary whom ever that will be JMO
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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #318 on: August 04, 2012, 03:32:07 AM »
Agree Maynard
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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #319 on: August 04, 2012, 04:15:37 AM »
JT will win tuesday. I know you guys dont like it. Its going to happen so you might as well get over it now.

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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #320 on: August 04, 2012, 04:34:16 AM »
Simple, an endorsement would be a violation of the Hatch Act.

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The hatch act is for federal employees

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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #321 on: August 04, 2012, 05:39:37 AM »
If JT wins it will be because he had to pay people to vote for him.  If the citizens of this county are in their right mind they won't wanna be sued again.

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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #322 on: August 04, 2012, 01:24:34 PM »
The hatch act is for federal employees


  Not according to the US DOJ and the National Sheriff's Association and the Missouri Sheriff's Association, it got "expanded".
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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #323 on: August 04, 2012, 02:33:19 PM »
Lets just hope it is Bill Anderson that wins the democrat primary and not JT
then vote for the republican that wins there primary whom ever that will be JMO

I plan on taking a democrat primary ballot and voting for Anderson, as an attempt at a first line of defense against JT Roberts.  Then I will vote for Burgess, Long, or Pappas in the regular election.
 
 
 

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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #324 on: August 04, 2012, 02:49:26 PM »
I would definitely not recommend pulling a Democratic ticket to vote against JT. Reason being, this race will be decided in the primary. Whichever Republican candidate wins the primary will be our next Sheriff. I will personally vote for Nick Pappas. He has the experience, but more important to me, he has the "managerial" skills I feel we are lacking. We have 13 road deputies and you're telling me we can only have one on at a time? I believe in Nick, after having several lengthy discussions about what the people are needing from our Sheriff, He never once promised anything that he can't deliver on. He's not part of the "good ol' boy" club. He truly cares about this County, and it's citizens. He is very professional, well spoken and trained. So I would suggest pulling a Republican ticket, and vote for your next sheriff!

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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #325 on: August 04, 2012, 03:19:55 PM »
I would definitely not recommend pulling a Democratic ticket to vote against JT. Reason being, this race will be decided in the primary. Whichever Republican candidate wins the primary will be our next Sheriff. I will personally vote for Nick Pappas. He has the experience, but more important to me, he has the "managerial" skills I feel we are lacking. We have 13 road deputies and you're telling me we can only have one on at a time? I believe in Nick, after having several lengthy discussions about what the people are needing from our Sheriff, He never once promised anything that he can't deliver on. He's not part of the "good ol' boy" club. He truly cares about this County, and it's citizens. He is very professional, well spoken and trained. So I would suggest pulling a Republican ticket, and vote for your next sheriff!


I agree this will be decided at the primary.... So please consider that carefully.

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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #326 on: August 04, 2012, 03:44:18 PM »
I would definitely not recommend pulling a Democratic ticket to vote against JT. Reason being, this race will be decided in the primary. Whichever Republican candidate wins the primary will be our next Sheriff. I will personally vote for Nick Pappas. He has the experience, but more important to me, he has the "managerial" skills I feel we are lacking. We have 13 road deputies and you're telling me we can only have one on at a time? I believe in Nick, after having several lengthy discussions about what the people are needing from our Sheriff, He never once promised anything that he can't deliver on. He's not part of the "good ol' boy" club. He truly cares about this County, and it's citizens. He is very professional, well spoken and trained. So I would suggest pulling a Republican ticket, and vote for your next sheriff!
Justin I echo that, If you are voting for a candidate, vote for that candidate.  Lets say you vote for Bill which is a good guy, and you really want Burgess, Long, or Pappas to win and JT wins the Primary with Long and you wanted Long, you are now screwed.  If several thousand people do this, then the candidates won't be elected for merit, but because people didn't vote true.
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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #327 on: August 04, 2012, 05:22:47 PM »
Voting across party lines only pulls votes away from the other party. Now, if we only had a democratic primary and only one republican, then yeah, have it! But when you have 3 republican candidates on the primary, you have to vote who you want to win!  I'll guarantee this election will be decided on Aug. 7th.  :th_gen129:

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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #328 on: August 05, 2012, 03:37:25 AM »

A disater? Please elaborate on your explanation of why you think this would be a disaster? I would also like to know if you have ever witnessed what goes on in a dispatch room>?  REALLY, this is a disaster waiting to happen, listen to them dispatch.

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Re: 2012 Sheriff's Office Election
« Reply #329 on: August 05, 2012, 03:38:36 AM »
Mr. Long has very good credentials and a long list of qualifications as does Mr. Pappas.  I like the fact that Mr. Long has been in our schools both as a substitute teacher as well as volunteering to give drug education to our youth. I believe his background as an undercover narcotics detective coupled with his abilityand willingness to communicate effectively with young people will benefit our community. There are many things to consider when deciding for whom to vote but this is one of the things that sets him apart and earns Ron Long my vote.

I have talked with some teachers from different school districts, the only one that I have found to know him is in a waynesville school.  Not saying he doesn't work else where, but just saying I don't think he "works" with near as many kids as you think!  I still REALLY DISLIKE the fact that he refused a commission to work in this county and find out the specific problems it has.  JB OFFERED so he would learn and become part of it and LONG REFUSED.    That is a problem for me.
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