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 Suspects in deputy killings linked to extremistsAssociated PressBy CAIN BURDEAU | Associated Press – 15 hrs ago
  • This photo provided by St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff’s Office shows Terry Smith. Authorities have identified seven people arrested in the investigation of the shootings of four Louisiana sheriff's deputies. Two died and the other two were wounded. State police said Friday that five of those arrested were at the scene where the shootings began. Two others are accused of being accessories. Motives behind the shootings and exactly how they unfolded have not been released. Although two deputies died, no murder charges have been filed. Twenty-four-year-old Brian Lyn Smith was charged with attempted first-degree murder. Forty-four-year-old Terry Smith; 22-year-old Derrick Smith; 28-year-old Kyle David Joekel; and 21-year-old Teniecha Bright are facing a charge of principal to attempted first-degree murder. Joekel and Brian Smith are hospitalized with gunshot wounds. Arrested on suspicion of being accessories after the fact were 37-year-old Chanel Skains and 23-year-old Britney Keith. All are from LaPlace. (AP Photo/St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff’s Office)This photo provided by St. John …
  • This photo provided by St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff’s Office shows Chanel Skains. Authorities have identified seven people arrested in the investigation of the shootings of four Louisiana sheriff's deputies. Two died and the other two were wounded. State police said Friday that five of those arrested were at the scene where the shootings began. Two others are accused of being accessories. Motives behind the shootings and exactly how they unfolded have not been released. Although two deputies died, no murder charges have been filed. Twenty-four-year-old Brian Lyn Smith was charged with attempted first-degree murder. Forty-four-year-old Terry Smith; 22-year-old Derrick Smith; 28-year-old Kyle David Joekel; and 21-year-old Teniecha Bright are facing a charge of principal to attempted first-degree murder. Joekel and Brian Smith are hospitalized with gunshot wounds. Arrested on suspicion of being accessories after the fact were 37-year-old Chanel Skains and 23-year-old Britney Keith. All are from LaPlace. (AP Photo/St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff’s Office)This photo provided by St. John …
  • This photo provided by St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff’s Office shows Britney Keith. Authorities have identified seven people arrested in the investigation of the shootings of four Louisiana sheriff's deputies. Two died and the other two were wounded. State police said Friday that five of those arrested were at the scene where the shootings began. Two others are accused of being accessories. Motives behind the shootings and exactly how they unfolded have not been released. Although two deputies died, no murder charges have been filed. Twenty-four-year-old Brian Lyn Smith was charged with attempted first-degree murder. Forty-four-year-old Terry Smith; 22-year-old Derrick Smith; 28-year-old Kyle David Joekel; and 21-year-old Teniecha Bright are facing a charge of principal to attempted first-degree murder. Joekel and Brian Smith are hospitalized with gunshot wounds. Arrested on suspicion of being accessories after the fact were 37-year-old Chanel Skains and 23-year-old Britney Keith. All are from LaPlace. (AP Photo/St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff’s Office)This photo provided by St. John …
  • This photo provided by St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff’s Office shows Derrick Smith. Authorities have identified seven people arrested in the investigation of the shootings of four Louisiana sheriff's deputies. Two died and the other two were wounded. State police said Friday that five of those arrested were at the scene where the shootings began. Two others are accused of being accessories. Motives behind the shootings and exactly how they unfolded have not been released. Although two deputies died, no murder charges have been filed. Twenty-four-year-old Brian Lyn Smith was charged with attempted first-degree murder. Forty-four-year-old Terry Smith; 22-year-old Derrick Smith; 28-year-old Kyle David Joekel; and 21-year-old Teniecha Bright are facing a charge of principal to attempted first-degree murder. Joekel and Brian Smith are hospitalized with gunshot wounds. Arrested on suspicion of being accessories after the fact were 37-year-old Chanel Skains and 23-year-old Britney Keith. All are from LaPlace. (AP Photo/St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff’s Office)This photo provided by St. John …
  • This photo provided by St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff’s Office shows Teniecha Bright . Authorities have identified seven people arrested in the investigation of the shootings of four Louisiana sheriff's deputies. Two died and the other two were wounded. State police said Friday that five of those arrested were at the scene where the shootings began. Two others are accused of being accessories. Motives behind the shootings and exactly how they unfolded have not been released. Although two deputies died, no murder charges have been filed. Twenty-four-year-old Brian Lyn Smith was charged with attempted first-degree murder. Forty-four-year-old Terry Smith; 22-year-old Derrick Smith; 28-year-old Kyle David Joekel; and 21-year-old Teniecha Bright are facing a charge of principal to attempted first-degree murder. Joekel and Brian Smith are hospitalized with gunshot wounds. Arrested on suspicion of being accessories after the fact were 37-year-old Chanel Skains and 23-year-old Britney Keith. All are from LaPlace. (AP Photo/St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff’s Office)This photo provided by St. John …
NEW ORLEANS (AP) — At least some of the seven people arrested in a fatal shootout with Louisiana deputies have been linked to violent anarchists on the FBI's domestic terrorism watch lists, a sheriff said Saturday.
Detectives had been monitoring the group before Thursday's shootout in Laplace in which two deputies were killed and two more wounded, said DeSoto Parish Sheriff Rodney Arbuckle. His detectives and other law enforcement discovered the suspects were heavily armed adherents to an ideology known as the "sovereign citizens" movement.
The FBI has classified "sovereign citizens" as people who believe they are free from all duties of a U.S. citizen, like paying taxes. The FBI considers the group's members a danger for making threats to judges and law enforcement, using fake currency and impersonating police officers.
The seven suspects have been charged in the shooting of Deputy Michael Scott Boyington, who survived. But authorities have said murder charges are pending.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation said it was investigating the killings but declined to comment Saturday and referred questions to the Louisiana State Police, the lead investigating agency.
Arrested were the group's apparent leader, 44-year-old Terry Smith, his wife, Chanel Skains, 37, and his two sons, Derrick Smith, 22, and Brian Lyn Smith, 24. Also arrested were Brittney Keith, the girlfriend of Brian Smith; Kyle David Joekel, 28, and a woman living with him, 21-year-old Teniecha Bright.
Brian Smith was charged with attempted first-degree murder and the others with related charges.
Detectives in Tennessee, Nebraska and Louisiana have sketched a portrait of an outlaw gang led by a 44-year-old accused molester named Terry Smith, who has a criminal record dating to 1984 in Morehouse Parish, the Times-Picayune reported Saturday.
Morehouse Parish Sheriff Mike Stubbs said the Smith family was notorious. He said they lived for a long time in a house on the outskirts of Bastrop.
"We had a good bit of dealings with them," he said. He said the Smith brothers had been involved in theft and drugs.
Arbuckle, reached by telephone by The Associated Press, said his deputies had the group under surveillance and considered them armed and dangerous before they suddenly left his parish about two months ago. He said they had set up camp at a mobile home park while they working at an International Paper plant.
The sheriff said deputies became suspicious after they investigated a reported burglary in May at the park's laundry. The detectives discovered members wanted under warrants issued in Tennessee, Nebraska and Louisiana.
"Once we had them on our radar we started doing research on them," he said. Arbuckle said his detectives monitored the group until they left in November.
Sovereign citizens are a loosely organized movement founded in the 1970s and more fully developed in the 1980s, according to the Anti-Defamation League website. Sovereign citizens believe that all levels of government have no jurisdiction over them and resist — sometimes with violence — authority including police, the website said.
They also like to use what is dubbed "paper terrorism." It involves using frivolous lawsuits and fake documents and of using genuine documents such as IRS forms to intimidate, harass and coerce public officials, law enforcement officers and private citizens.
Arbuckle said his detectives could easily have been the victims instead of the St. John the Baptist Parish deputies killed and wounded. Deputies Brandon Nielsen and Jeremy Triche were killed and along with Boyington, Jason Triche was wounded. The Triches were somehow related, authorities said.
"We understand they had some pretty good firepower," Arbuckle said. "This very well could have been us" in the gunfight, he said.
He said the group traveled the country in trailers doing construction work and possessed a stockpile of weapons.
They were arrested after an early morning assault on Boyington led to the deadly shootout in the mobile home park in Laplace, a suburb west of New Orleans.  Boyington was shot at the entrance of a parking lot used by contract workers on a job at a nearby oil refinery. He was working off-duty on a security detail at the lot.
Shortly thereafter, the other deputies were shot at the trailer park where a car involved in the first shooting was spotted.
Joekel and Brian Smith were hospitalized with gunshot wounds and will be jailed once they are out of the hospital. The others were jailed with bonds ranging from $350,000 to $750,000.
The Gage County, Neb., Sheriff's Office website listed Joekel among its most wanted fugitives, saying he is accused of making "terroristic threats" to patrons of a Nebraska bar and law enforcement officials.
Sgt. Len Marie, a state police spokesman, said investigators were amassing evidence. He said the agency had received the reports from the DeSoto sheriff and other law enforcement agencies in other states.  He said the FBI and Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms was involved.
He said it was too early to verify links to the extremist groups associated with the sovereign citizen movement.
"We are confident that we have the people responsible for this in custody," Marie said
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Re: Suspects in deputy killings linked to extremists
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2012, 11:43:27 AM »
looks to me like propaganda. since we are soverign according to the bill of rights.

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Re: Suspects in deputy killings linked to extremists
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2012, 05:34:15 PM »
If they killed the deputies then kill them. Don’t make them out to be more than they are, criminals that don’t pay taxes. I don’t know about anyone else but I’m getting sick of the word terrorism. Not everything is a terrorist act. Most of the time it is just criminal acts.  Terroristic threats to patrons of bar, really, sound like some jerk threaten to kill people.

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Re: Suspects in deputy killings linked to extremists
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2012, 05:58:24 PM »
Correct Chas.  IN the '70s when I was in Germany, we were given many training classes regarding such terrorists as Bader-Meinhof.  And what they said was to think of them as criminals.  Afterall, that is what they are.

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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2012, 06:23:56 PM »
If they killed the deputies then kill them. Don’t make them out to be more than they are, criminals that don’t pay taxes. I don’t know about anyone else but I’m getting sick of the word terrorism. Not everything is a terrorist act. Most of the time it is just criminal acts.  Terroristic threats to patrons of bar, really, sound like some jerk threaten to kill people.

 i agree dont think my first post was clear on that but that is what i was getting at. people respond to terrorisim and soverign citicens movement will end up getting a bad name regaurdless of their actuall motives because a few criminals decided to use their beliefs to their advantage. i looked at their web site and it dont look like a terrorist web site not that i have actually seen one.. but i didnt see messages of hate or death just a diiferent oppinion on what it means to be free. we probably have terrorist in this country but they are in elected office