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Author Topic: Local Electric Crews Return Before All Power Restored Out East  (Read 2418 times)

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Local Electric Crews Return Before All Power Restored Out East
« on: November 12, 2012, 06:05:51 AM »

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I was told today some returned last night because they were not needed. They were not UNION. The UNION folks only want union people working there now. Sad ain't it. With 13 days of no power, they can run workers off because they are not union employees. I hope them folks without power let the unions know how they feel. (Notice I did not mention who the unions got elected and who is giving them the free hand to do what they want). I will bet this isn't in the MSM news.
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Re: Local Electric Crews Return Before All Power Restored Out East
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2012, 06:16:21 PM »
I was told today some returned last night because they were not needed. They were not UNION. The UNION folks only want union people working there now. Sad ain't it. With 13 days of no power, they can run workers off because they are not union employees. I hope them folks without power let the unions know how they feel. (Notice I did not mention who the unions got elected and who is giving them the free hand to do what they want). I will bet this isn't in the MSM news.
   Hmmm...I guess the National Guard that was just called in to help must the union ones
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Re: Local Electric Crews Return Before All Power Restored Out East
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2012, 04:38:34 AM »
   Hmmm...I guess the National Guard that was just called in to help must the union ones

You know better. The union folks aren't compeating for work with the guard. In time of emergency's like this who should give a boot weather they are union or not. As long as they are qualified and have the equipment let them fix the power. Now I see our president has his first meeting after the election with (not the Congress or Senate) with SEIU and other union's. It sure looks bad from my point of view but I am just a local guy that voted against him.
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Re: Local Electric Crews Return Before All Power Restored Out East
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2012, 04:49:04 AM »
You know better. The union folks aren't compeating for work with the guard. In time of emergency's like this who should give a boot weather they are union or not. As long as they are qualified and have the equipment let them fix the power. Now I see our president has his first meeting after the election with (not the Congress or Senate) with SEIU and other union's. It sure looks bad from my point of view but I am just a local guy that voted against him.
  how do you figure they are not compeating for work???  seems like the few thousand national guard is gonna take alot of work away...more  then a few trucks from missouri.   they are there working and they are non union and who do you suppose ok'd sending them there???   go ahead.....guess :)
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Re: Local Electric Crews Return Before All Power Restored Out East
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2012, 09:04:26 AM »
Its bullshit. They need every hand possible. Regardless of union....military....or civil. turning away volunteers is shady regardless
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Re: Local Electric Crews Return Before All Power Restored Out East
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2012, 04:47:40 AM »
  how do you figure they are not compeating for work???  seems like the few thousand national guard is gonna take alot of work away...more  then a few trucks from missouri.   they are there working and they are non union and who do you suppose ok'd sending them there???   go ahead.....guess :)


The Governor did. Who else controles the local NG. Sure ain't the president.
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Re: Local Electric Crews Return Before All Power Restored Out East
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2012, 02:12:44 AM »
The Governor did. Who else controles the local NG. Sure ain't the president.
Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta agreed with the governors of Maryland, New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts and Rhode Island to appoint dual-status commanders as Hurricane Sandy approaches, according to Defense Department reports.

Dual-status commanders can command both federal and state National Guard forces. This special authority enables them to effectively integrate defense support operations and capabilities requested by governors. Panetta is prepared to quickly agree to similar requests from other states, the Defense Department reported.
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Re: Local Electric Crews Return Before All Power Restored Out East
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2012, 02:33:30 AM »
I was told today some returned last night because they were not needed. They were not UNION. The UNION folks only want union people working there now. Sad ain't it. With 13 days of no power, they can run workers off because they are not union employees. I hope them folks without power let the unions know how they feel. (Notice I did not mention who the unions got elected and who is giving them the free hand to do what they want). I will bet this isn't in the MSM news.
Union leadership is denying reports about paperwork allegedly received by an Alabama utility saying that the company's six-man crew needed union affiliation before being able to help restore electricity in Seaside Heights.

The crew returned home without ever reaching New Jersey.

Decatur Utilities’ General Manager Ray Hardin issued a statement this morning saying the company was sent documents on Wednesday from the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers “that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas.”

The crew, which was at a staging area in Virginia as the company awaited “clarification,” returned to Alabama on Thursday after getting word Seaside Heights had received the help it sought, Hardin said in the statement.

Union officials at the local, district and national level, though, say they cannot trace any such requirements made to the company.

"We can't confirm that anything like that happened with any of our locals," said Donald Siegel, the vice president of the IBEW's district office in Philadelphia, which oversees locals in New Jersey, Pennsylvania and New York. "I don't know where they got that correspondence. It didn't come from the IBEW. It didn't come from any of the locals that I’m aware of."

Siegel said the Seaside Heights municipal utility is itself not represented by the IBEW.


Union crews are otherwise working with non-affiliated personnel in several jurisdictions, Siegel and a representative with the union’s Washington, D.C., national office said.

"It is the policy of this union and the companies we represent to welcome assistance during major natural disasters – regardless of union status,” Jim Spellane, spokesman for the national office, said in a statement. “IBEW local leaders in New Jersey have reiterated what has been the long standing record of our union – in times of crisis all help is welcome and we pull together with everyone to meet the needs of the public."

Hardin and a company representative did not respond to several requests for details about the documentation, including which IBEW jurisdiction might have sent it.

Although Hardin says that “at no time were our crews ‘turned away" from the Seaside Heights utility, “it was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas.”

In his statement, Hardin said the company tried to contact “other areas” where the crew might be needed.

"However, based on the uncertainty of union requirements that we could not agree to … we ultimately made the decision to return (the crew) to Decatur," he said.

Two other Alabama utilities were initially mentioned by a Huntsville (Ala.) television station in a story reporting that non-union crews had been turned aside.

One of those, Trinity, Ala.-based Joe Wheeler, was never in New Jersey and is unionized, its CEO, George Kitchens, said this morning.

Eight Wheeler workers were instead dispatched to Maryland before the storm hit and have completed their work there, company spokeswoman Mandi Phillips said.

"We are headed back home," she said. "We were never turned away."

Bill Yell, communications manager for Huntsville Utilities, said he was not aware a union issue had prevented three of that company’s crews from working in New Jersey.

Huntsville originally sent two three-man bucket crews and one three-man pole-setting crew to Seaside Heights, but that all nine had since been dispatched to Long Island, Yell said.

"The reason we're not working with the New Jersey system is that they had all the crews they could handle," he said.

The fact that those crews are not unionized did not have any effect, he said.

"They didn't have any problems with us," he said.
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Re: Local Electric Crews Return Before All Power Restored Out East
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2012, 04:36:04 AM »
I guess the local crew-s that were sent from right here are mistaken because a union boss said he had no record of it?  Do you really expect the union folks to tell the people without power "we sent help packing because they weren't union". It's about over now. Form your own opinion from what you want to believe.
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Re: Local Electric Crews Return Before All Power Restored Out East
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2012, 08:30:33 AM »
People wouldnt leave if they werent sent home. The chief of police of crocker was activated by fema to go along with another,no mention of unions when they called hm in. askhim if he was sent home .....
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Re: Local Electric Crews Return Before All Power Restored Out East
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2012, 01:40:06 PM »
Unions have a long history of intimdation against non union workers coming in to an area that affects them, wether it is due to bad wether or not.  The work that they crews do during and after a storm are not donated hours, people are being paid. There is alot of hours and overtime hours put in. So dont be so quick to believe a union wouldnt tell the non union to leave.

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Re: Local Electric Crews Return Before All Power Restored Out East
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2012, 05:36:34 AM »
Folks just need to read and listen to what happened, Help was turned away for union matters. Most folks voted for this so now they got what they want. You all know Obama was total union. Look who was the first folks he met with after his reelection. We are all going to have to just live with Obama pretty much doing what he wants. He is our president! You don't know how much I disliked saying the truth there.
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Re: Local Electric Crews Return Before All Power Restored Out East
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2012, 12:54:28 PM »
Pete, i know you dont like the fact Obama has been re-elected, so am i.  But you cant blame everything that happens on him.  Unions have been doing this type of stuff way before Obama was around.  Granted he has a large Union support, but that doesnt mean he had anything to do with this.

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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2012, 04:18:37 AM »
Pete, i know you don't like the fact Obama has been reelected, so am i.  But you cant blame everything that happens on him.  Unions have been doing this type of stuff way before ABM was around.  Granted he has a large Union support, but that doesnt mean he had anything to do with this.



You are right, he did not give any orders pertaining to this. He is however supporting the folks that did. He is in bed so to say with them. They just got Twinkies to bow out and the next on the list is Walmart. We are entering some very interesting times and allot of folks might have to pay a large price for it. I just hope it isn't the folks that NEED a job to pay bills and feed their kids. The government tries but does not do the job that well. I guess time will tell.
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