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They Know Not What They Ban
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Re: They Know Not What They Ban
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2013, 06:45:51 AM »
Plain and simple you said it. Im sick of retarded rhetoric..... if you dont know what the hell your arguing about, shut up. I am standing on the simple argument. How do you keep Criminals from killing people. Banning guns will not acomplish this. Criminals have never bought a gun legally and did their crime with it. They steal them or buy them on the black market. They dont go the the gun store and pick up a kill kit and go to work. The whole argument is retarded. My 30-06 is more deadly than my AR.....but it only holds 5 rounds...so its ok. My shot gun can cut you in half......but its ok. My AR holds 30 rounds and is fun to shoot.....smaller bullet meaner look.........ooooh scarey. Its a bunch of bull. If there was any intelligence in our government......they would have the country back on track, and doing actual good for this nation instead of beating a dead horse. My 30 cents. Biscuit
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Re: They Know Not What They Ban
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2013, 01:36:09 AM »
 School prayer? Christian values?
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We are spiritual beings having a human experience.
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Re: They Know Not What They Ban
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2013, 03:44:42 AM »
School prayer? Christian values?

Freedom of Religion. Have you heard of it. One can worship whatever they chose. If I want to worship poodle the god of dogs and sheep, I can. The Government can not favor one religion over another. Read the constitution.

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Re: They Know Not What They Ban
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2013, 02:04:06 PM »
 "The 'separation of church and state' was a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to keep the state out of the church NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...." and Article VI specifies that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." The modern concept of a wholly secular government is sometimes credited to the writings of English philosopher John Locke, but the phrase "separation of church and state" in this context is generally traced to a January 1, 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson, addressed to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut, and published in a Massachusetts newspaper.

The "state" should stay out of it! We the people need to bring back prayer and values to our children!
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Re: They Know Not What They Ban
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2013, 12:38:33 AM »
"The 'separation of church and state' was a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to keep the state out of the church NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...." and Article VI specifies that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." The modern concept of a wholly secular government is sometimes credited to the writings of English philosopher John Locke, but the phrase "separation of church and state" in this context is generally traced to a January 1, 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson, addressed to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut, and published in a Massachusetts newspaper.

The "state" should stay out of it! We the people need to bring back prayer and values to our children!
And what if those people decide not to. What if we decide to live by reason and logic. What if we decide to let schools teach and for churches to do what they do. Would that be ok. It is what is happening.

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Re: They Know Not What They Ban
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2013, 08:43:45 AM »
School prayer? Christian values?
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Re: They Know Not What They Ban
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2013, 07:33:37 PM »
it would be great if we went by reasoning and logic. unfortunately some are incapable of either.

It would be great if we could let schools teach, the problem is what they do teach and what they fail to teach.

churches are not the best examples to follow nowadays. if they would stick with following the bible, that would be a good start.

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Re: They Know Not What They Ban
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2013, 09:11:40 PM »
it would be great if we went by reasoning and logic. unfortunately some are incapable of either.

It would be great if we could let schools teach, the problem is what they do teach and what they fail to teach.

churches are not the best examples to follow nowadays. if they would stick with following the bible, that would be a good start.
So like the westboro church... No not even they "Follow" the bible. You are to kill the unbelievers, the witches, the homosexuals, the adulterers, those that work on saturday, those that wear clothing made of of two fabrics, children who disobey. You are two sell your daughter as if she is livestock, Human sacrifice is ok some places, bad others. God rewards evil (Israel) and punishes the good. (Esau) Finally all is forgiven when you ask for forgivness, no matter what you did.


Oh and if you don't sell all you got and give to the church god strikes you dead.
LETS FOLLOW THE BIBLE. WE CAN SCARE THE MUSLIMS IF WE ACTED LIKE THE BOOK TOLD US TO.

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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2013, 11:09:31 PM »
that is correct, the wbc does not follow the bible, just their interpretation of it. you have done the same. quoted sayings in the bible out of context that fit your agenda.
 what verses are those statements in? chapter and verse.

put up or shut up !

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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2013, 11:57:56 PM »
that is correct, the wbc does not follow the bible, just their interpretation of it. you have done the same. quoted sayings in the bible out of context that fit your agenda.
 what verses are those statements in? chapter and verse.

put up or shut up !
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy [/size]fathers[/color][/size]; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto h
And christian's say that atheist make science there god.
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[/size]And the man that committeth adultery with [/color][/size]another[/color][/size] man's wife, [/color][/size]even he[/color][/size] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Lev 20-10[/color][/b]
[/size],[/size]Six days may work be done; but in the seventh [/color][/size]is[/color][/size] the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth [/color][/size]any[/color][/size] work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.[/color][/size] nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- [/size]Dt.13:6-10[/color][/b]
More or is this enough to prove I know my bible


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Re: They Know Not What They Ban
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2013, 01:06:52 AM »
a cut and paste proves you know "your" bible? LOL LOL you are quoting(?) passages from the old testament. are you neglecting the new testament or did you forget about it?
the punishments and sacrifices were done away with when Jesus came. He is our advocate with God so we can be forgiven our sins. forget about judging others? we are to judge who we keep company with but not judge the world. that's God's job.
are you aware some of those passages involving breaking some of the 10 commandments?
why is the Sabbath now observed on sunday?

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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2013, 05:27:05 AM »
a cut and paste proves you know "your" bible? LOL LOL you are quoting(?) passages from the old testament. are you neglecting the new testament or did you forget about it?
the punishments and sacrifices were done away with when Jesus came. He is our advocate with God so we can be forgiven our sins. forget about judging others? we are to judge who we keep company with but not judge the world. that's God's job.
are you aware some of those passages involving breaking some of the 10 commandments?
why is the Sabbath now observed on sunday?
Yeah I can copy the bible. WOW good for you. How else would you like me to show you the verse, Typing it out. Jesus did not come to change the law but to fulfill, and jesus never once said the sabbath was now sunday, that is a pagan belief that praises Saturn. Christian modified it like so much of there religion. Also lets not forget how Peter killed those two people who didn't give everything they owned to the church.
Also the 10 commandments are old testament. Are you picking and choosing again.
Just because the new testament exist does not mean you can throw away the old.

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Re: They Know Not What They Ban
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2013, 05:13:13 PM »
Did not realize that gun control issues were in the bible.

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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2013, 07:56:44 PM »
the 2 people ananias and his wife said they would give the money from the sale of the land to God. they lied. Peter didn't kill them, they dropped dead.

christians did not change the sabbath to sunday, emperor constintine did, after he legalized christianity. Jesus observed the sabbath. what did he say when the pharisees were yelling about Him performing miracles on the sabbath? Jesus tlked about the 10 commandments. saturday was named for saturn and sunday was named for the sun. all the days of the week and the months  were named by the greeks

you have just demonstrated you don't know squat about the bible or what you are talking about.  just like those infringing on our 2nd ammendment rights(for you chas)

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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2013, 05:44:28 AM »
the 2 people ananias and his wife said they would give the money from the sale of the land to God. they lied. Peter didn't kill them, they dropped dead.

christians did not change the sabbath to sunday, emperor constintine did, after he legalized christianity. Jesus observed the sabbath. what did he say when the pharisees were yelling about Him performing miracles on the sabbath? Jesus tlked about the 10 commandments. saturday was named for saturn and sunday was named for the sun. all the days of the week and the months  were named by the greeks

you have just demonstrated you don't know squat about the bible or what you are talking about.  just like those infringing on our 2nd ammendment rights(for you chas)
Ananias didn't get killed by peter, they just dropped dead because??? They lied when Peter asked them to give everything and they held on to some.
Constantian was the leader of the church.
What did jesus say when asked. He made stuff up that was not in the law so he could say he didn't sin. Would have made a heck of a lawyer, as he never actually keeps the laws but uses the law to circumvent the law.
Also Named after Roman deities not greek.
Good try though.

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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2013, 12:34:23 PM »
Right The original intent was to show the people wanting to ban guns don't know a damn thing about them. 

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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2013, 01:25:35 PM »
I'll start a thread on the bible so you don't continue to hijack this one. it will be in the religion section