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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #120 on: May 07, 2014, 11:27:46 PM »

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where does happiness and love come from?
Chemical interactions in the brain. When we find something beneficial we consider it happy and our brain releases dopamine. When we find a girl or guy attractive or compatible we have other chemicals released in there brain.

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #121 on: May 07, 2014, 11:43:30 PM »
So the goo knew that we were going to have lightning strike it a second time and make a female that is completely compatible with us and that we would need to release a chemical called love and then another for happiness? Wow, and you can't believe in God???????   If its OK with you ebilly... I would prefer to start calling you "The goo knew guru" It just has a certain ring to it!  LOL
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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #122 on: May 08, 2014, 02:17:22 AM »
if the goo was that advanced, why wouldn't it wait for the couple to be married before conceiving?

or just letting the other head do the thinking(not the one on your shoulders)?????????????????????? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

When we find a girl or guy attractive or compatible we have other chemicals released in there(their) brain.

we control the chemicals released in the other person's brain???? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL


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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #123 on: May 08, 2014, 02:22:53 PM »
So the goo knew that we were going to have lightning strike it a second time and make a female that is completely compatible with us and that we would need to release a chemical called love and then another for happiness? Wow, and you can't believe in God???????   If its OK with you ebilly... I would prefer to start calling you "The goo knew guru" It just has a certain ring to it!  LOL
Um, no. I said none of that. The goo (Really) had nothing to do with sex, and we see animals (And plants) that can self inseminate, possessing both male and female sexual organs. A organism that would be either male or female would have a advantage when resources got thinner. And you are asking about the mind, we are not fully aware but there would be three emotions that the first complex life form would need. Fear, lust, and rage. fear would allow a animal to run away from danger, Lust for mating, and rage to fight when it could not run away.

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #124 on: May 08, 2014, 02:45:28 PM »
if the goo was that advanced, why wouldn't it wait for the couple to be married before conceiving?
Goo was A-sexual, it impregnated itself and split

or just letting the other head do the thinking(not the one on your shoulders)?????????????????????? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Again you think the goo had a sex. LOL

When we find a girl or guy attractive or compatible we have other chemicals released in there(their) brain.
Our body tries. We release Pheromones, but they don't always work.

we control the chemicals released in the other person's brain???? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
It's called Pheromones, and like I said it doesn't always work.

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #125 on: May 08, 2014, 06:20:37 PM »
Its pretty important to note that evolution does not require belief...it requires understanding.  This isnt all made up stuff that requires faith to believe, it is accepted scientific theory and requires understanding.  The same scientific theory that built your computer, flies your planes, and gets us to space and even other planets quite safely.

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #126 on: May 08, 2014, 07:13:04 PM »
Its pretty important to note that evolution does not require belief...it requires understanding.  This isnt all made up stuff that requires faith to believe, it is accepted scientific theory and requires understanding.  The same scientific theory that built your computer, flies your planes, and gets us to space and even other planets quite safely.
EVOLUTION IS A RELIGIOUS FAITH



Both evolutionists and scientists are agreed on this point: Evolution is a religion, and it must be accepted by faith. This is science vs. evolution; this is the Creation-Evolution Encyclopedia, brought to you by Creation Science Facts.

This material is excerpted from the book,  EVOLUTION AND SOCIETY.  An asterisk ( * ) by a name indicates that person is not known to be a creationist. Of over 4,000 quotations in the books this Encyclopedia is based on, only 164 statements are by creationists. You will have a better understanding of the following statements by scientists if you will also read the web page,  Evolution and Society.

Evolutionists freely admit that evolution is a religion, and can only be accepted by faith.

Darwinism is a mythology.

"With the failure of these many efforts, science was left in the somewhat embarrassing position of having to postulate theories of living origins which it could not demonstrate. After having chided the theologian for his reliance on myth and miracle, science found itself in the inevitable position of having to create a mythology of its own: namely, the assumption that what, after long effort could not prove to take place today had, in truth, taken place in the primeval past."—*Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey (1957), p. 199.

It is a faith.

"[The theory of evolution] forms a satisfactory faith on which to base our interpretation of nature."—*L. Harrison Matthews, "Introduction to Origin of Species," p. xxii (1977 edition).

Evolution makes man into his own god. It is "a nontheistic religion."

"Humanism is the belief that man shapes his own destiny. It is a constructive philosophy, a nontheistic religion, a way of life."—*American Humanist Association, promotional brochure.

This bewitching power that captivates men so that they will live and die in defense of pointless thinking and factless theory is termed by them a "religion."

"It is a religion of science that Darwinism chiefly held, and holds over men's minds."—*Encounter, November, p. 48 (1959).

*Huxley, *Charles Darwin's personal champion, made a startling admission:

" `Creation,' in the ordinary sense of the word, is perfectly conceivable. I find no difficulty in conceiving that, at some former period, this universe was not in existence, and that it made its appearance in six days (or instantaneously, if that is preferred), in consequence of the volition of some preexisting Being. Then, as now, the so-called a priori arguments against Theism and, given a Deity, against the possibility of creative acts, appeared to me to be devoid of reasonable foundation."—*Thomas H. Huxley, quoted in *L. Huxley, Life and Letters of Thomas Henry Huxley, Vol. I (1903), p. 241 (1903).

A co-developer of the Piltdown Man hoax, said this:

"A Belief in Evolution is a basic doctrine in the Rationalists' Liturgy."—*Sir Arthur Keith, Darwinism and Its Critics (1935), p. 53.

"Biogenesis" is the theory that life originated from nonlife one day when some sand and seawater changed itself into a living being. It is accepted by faith, for there is no evidence to support such an idea.

"It is therefore a matter of faith, on the part of the biologist, that biogenesis did occur and he can choose whatever method of biogenesis happens to suit him personally; the evidence of what did happen is not available."—*G.A. Kerkut, Implications of Evolution (1960), p. 150.

The theory of evolution up the ladder from simple organisms to more complex ones, requires a level of faith not based on fact that is astonishing.

"If complex organisms ever did evolve from simpler ones, the process took place contrary to the laws of nature, and must have involved what may rightly be termed the miraculous."—*R.E.D. Clark, Victoria Institute (1943), p. 63.

Is evolution then a science or a faith? Lacking evidence for its support, what is it?

"The fact of evolution is the backbone of biology, and biology is thus in the peculiar position of being a science founded on an improved theory—is it then a science or faith?"—*L.H. Matthews, "Introduction to Origin of the Species, by *Charles Darwin (1971 edition), pp. x, xi (1971 edition).

There are thousands of facts in support of Creation and the existence of the Creator who made that creation. But evolution is solo fide; it is by faith alone.

"The more one studies paleontology, the more certain one becomes that evolution is based on faith alone . . exactly the same sort of faith which it is necessary to have when one encounters the great mysteries of religion."—*Louis Trenchard More, quoted in Science and the Two-tailed Dinosaur, p. 33.

The best description of the facts discovered by geologists—is to be found in the book of Genesis.

"If I, as a geologist, were called upon to explain briefly our modern ideas of the origin of the earth and the development of life on it to a simple, pastoral people, such as the tribes to whom the Book of Genesis was addressed, I could hardly do better than follow rather closely much of the language of the first chapter of Genesis."—*Wallace Pratt, quoted by W.L. Copithorne, in "The Worlds of Wallace Pratt," The Lamp, Fall 1971, p. 14.

After looking over all the evidence, the Genesis account of Creation is far more believable than is the evolutionary tale.

"Given the facts, our existence seems quite improbable—more miraculous, perhaps, than the seven-day wonder of Genesis."—*Judith Hooper, "Perfect Timing," New Age Journal, Vol. 11, December 1985, p. 18.

Two other avowed evolutionists declare their allegiance to the "dogma" received as part of their training in the secular universities.

"Our theory of evolution has become . . one which cannot be refuted by any possible observations. Every conceivable observation can be fitted into it . . No one can think of ways in which to test it. Ideas wither without basis or based on a few laboratory experiments carried out in extremely simplified systems, have attained currency far beyond their validity. They have become part of an evolutionary dogma accepted by most of us as part of our training."—*L.C. Birch and *P. Ehrlich, Nature, April 22, 1967.

Evolution became a scientific religion, before which men come and bow and yield their reasoning powers.

"In fact [subsequent to the publication of Darwin's book, Origin of Species], evolution became, in a sense, a scientific religion; almost all scientists have accepted it and many are prepared to `bend' their observations to fit with it. . To my mind, the theory does not stand up at all . . If living matter is not, then, caused by the interplay of atoms, natural forces, and radiation, how has it come into being? . . I think, however, that we must go further than this and admit that the only acceptable explanation is  Creation. I know that this is anathema to physicists, as indeed it is to me, but we must not reject a theory that we do not like if the experimental evidence supports it."—*H.S. Lipson, "A Physicist Looks at Evolution," Physics Bulletin, Vol. 31, p. 138 (1980) [emphasis his].

The theory is merely an article of faith; part of the atheistic creed.

"The hypothesis that life has developed from inorganic matter is, at present, still an article of faith."—*J.W.N. Sullivan, Limitations of Science (1933), p. 95.

It has become an orthodoxy that is preached with religious fervor. Only those lacking in faith hesitate to accept this theory with evidence supporting it.

"Today the tables are turned. The modified, but still characteristically Darwinian theory has itself become an orthodoxy, preached by its adherents with religious fervor, and doubted, they feel, only by a few muddlers imperfect in scientific faith."—*M. Grene, Faith of Darwinism," Encounter, November 1959, p. 49.

It takes plenty of faith, boys, plenty of faith.

"Evolution requires plenty of faith; a faith in L-proteins that defy chance formation; a faith in the formation of DNA codes which, if generated spontaneously, would spell only pandemonium; a faith in a primitive environment that, in reality, would fiendishly devour any chemical precursors to life; a faith in experiments that prove nothing but the need for intelligence in the beginning; a faith in a primitive ocean that would not thicken, but would only haplessly dilute chemicals; a faith in natural laws of thermodynamics and biogenesis that actually deny the possibility for the spontaneous generation of life; a faith in future scientific revelations that, when realized, always seem to present more dilemmas to the evolutionists; faith in improbabilities that treasonously tell two stories—one denying evolution, the other confirming the Creator; faith in transformations that remain fixed; faith in mutations and natural selection that add to a double negative for evolution; faith in fossils that embarrassingly show fixity through time, regular absence of transitional forms and striking testimony to a worldwide water deluge; a faith in time which proves to only promote degradation in the absence of mind; and faith in reductionism that ends up reducing the materialist's arguments to zero and forcing the need to invoke a supernatural Creator."—R.L. Wysong, The Creation-Evolution Controversy (1981), p. 455.

Somehow it is supposed to have happened. And when it did happen, it did it all by itself.

First should come the facts, not the other way around.

"The facts must mold the theories, not the theories the facts . . I am most critical of my biologist friends in this matter. Try telling a biologist that, impartially judged among other accepted theories of science, such as the theory of relativity, it seems to you that the theory of natural selection has a very uncertain, hypothetical status, and watch his reaction. I'll bet you that he gets red in the face. This is `religion,' not `science,' with him."—*Burton, "The Human Side of the Physiologist: Prejudice and Poetry," Physiologist 2 (1957).

Evolution is based on faith alone, for there is not fact to accompany it.

"What is it [evolution] based upon? Upon nothing whatever but faith, upon belief in the reality of the unseen—belief in the fossils that cannot be produced, belief in the embryological experiments that refuse to come off. It is faith unjustified by works."—*Arthur N. Field.

It gives to mankind the most incredible of deities: random chance.

"The irony is devastating. The main purpose of Darwinism was to drive every last trace of an incredible God from biology. But the theory replaces God with and even more incredible deity—omnipotent chance."—*T. Rosazak, Unfinished Animal (1975), pp. 101-102.

It is a creed, dispensed by the intellectuals, to the great masses of mankind.

"Darwinism is a creed not only with scientists committed to document the all-purpose role of natural selection. It is a creed with masses of people who have at best a vague notion of the mechanism of evolution as proposed by Darwin, let alone as further complicated by his successors."—*S. Jaki, Cosmos and Creator (1982).

It is an entrenched dogma that substitutes for religion.

"[Karl] Popper warns of a danger: `A theory, even a scientific theory, may become an intellectual fashion, a substitute for religion, an entrenched dogma.' This has certainly been true of evolutionary theory."—*Colin Patterson, Evolution (1977), p. 150.

It is the underlying mythology in the great temple of modern atheism.

"Evolution is sometimes the key mythological element in a philosophy that functions as a virtual religion."—*E. Harrison, "Origin and Evolution of the Universe," Encyclopedia Britannica: Macropaedia (1974), p. 1007.

*Brady is concerned less about the shaky foundations of evolutionary theory than the devastating effect it is having on scientific endeavor.

"What is at stake is not the validity of the Darwinian theory itself, but of the approach to science that it has come to represent. The peculiar form of consensus the theory wields has produced a premature closure of inquiry in several branches of biology, and even if this is to be expected in `normal science,' such a dogmatic approach does not appear healthy."—*R. Brady, "Dogma and Doubt," Biological Journal of the Linnean Society, 17:79, 96 (1982).

*Lessel says that *Sagan's boastful declarations about evolutionary theory, actually changes matter and energy into a god with moral qualities.

"By calling evolution fact, the process of evolution is removed from dispute; it is no longer merely a scientific construct, but now stands apart from humankind and its perceptual frailties. Sagan apparently wishes to accomplish what Peter Berger calls `objectification,' the attribution of objective reality to a humanly produced concept . . With evolution no longer regarded as a mere human construct, but now as a part of the natural order of the cosmos, evolution becomes a sacred archetype against which human actions can be weighed. Evolution is a sacred object or process in that it becomes endowed with mysterious and awesome power."—*T. Lessl, Science and the Sacred Cosmos: The Ideological Rhetoric of Carl Sagan," Quarterly Journal of Speech, 71:178 (1985).

The American Humanist Association, founded in 1933, is the 20th century equivalent of the 19th century, American Atheist Association, and is one of the leading evolutionists' bastions in the United States. A decade later it became a nonprofit organization. Notice that they themselves consider it a "religion:"

"Humanism is the belief that man shapes his own destiny. It is a constructive philosophy, a nontheistic religion, a way of life . . The American Humanist Association is a nonprofit, tax exempt organization, incorporated in the early 1940's in Illinois for educational and religious purposes.
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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #127 on: May 08, 2014, 08:25:01 PM »
evolution requires a disbelief in God. evolution is a religion!! evolution is still an unproven "theory". people can agree with the theory, but that doesn't make it a fact. God is proven every day!

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #128 on: May 08, 2014, 09:14:27 PM »
"Evolution requires plenty of faith; a faith in L-proteins that defy chance formation; a faith in the formation of DNA codes which, if generated spontaneously, would spell only pandemonium; a faith in a primitive environment that, in reality, would fiendishly devour any chemical precursors to life; a faith in experiments that prove nothing but the need for intelligence in the beginning; a faith in a primitive ocean that would not thicken, but would only haplessly dilute chemicals; a faith in natural laws of thermodynamics and biogenesis that actually deny the possibility for the spontaneous generation of life; a faith in future scientific revelations that, when realized, always seem to present more dilemmas to the evolutionists; faith in improbabilities that treasonously tell two stories—one denying evolution, the other confirming the Creator; faith in transformations that remain fixed; faith in mutations and natural selection that add to a double negative for evolution; faith in fossils that embarrassingly show fixity through time, regular absence of transitional forms and striking testimony to a worldwide water deluge; a faith in time which proves to only promote degradation in the absence of mind; and faith in reductionism that ends up reducing the materialist's arguments to zero and forcing the need to invoke a supernatural Creator."—R.L. Wysong, The Creation-Evolution Controversy (1981), p. 455.
We are not human beings having a spiritual experience.
We are spiritual beings having a human experience.
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