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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2014, 03:23:59 AM »

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why didn't God go above and beyond for His children hi? God is not required to do anything! but what do you think about God sending Jesus to die for us so we can be forgiven of our sins? not enough for you????????

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2014, 03:44:19 AM »
how old does the bible say the universe is?6000 years, give or take a decade or two state the bible verse???
Adam to Seth  .............    130 yrs    (Genesis  5:3)     *
    *  Seth to Enos  .............    105 yrs    (Genesis  5:6)     *
    *  Enos to Cainan ............     90 yrs    (Genesis  5:9)     *
    *  Cainan to Mahalaleel ......     70 yrs    (Genesis  5:12)    *
    *  Mahalaleel to Jared .......     65 yrs    (Genesis  5:15)    *
    *  Jared to Enoch ............    162 yrs    (Genesis  5:18)    *
    *  Enoch to Methuselah .......     65 yrs    (Genesis  5:21)    *
    *  Methuselah to Lamech ......    187 yrs    (Genesis  5:25)    *
    *  Lamech to Noah ............    182 yrs    (Genesis  5:28-29) *
    *  Noah to the Flood .........    600 yrs    (Genesis  7:6)     *
    *  Flood to Arphaxad .........      2 yrs    (Genesis 11:10)    *
    *  Arphaxad to Salah .........     35 yrs    (Genesis 11:12)    *
    *  Salah to Eber .............     30 yrs    (Genesis 11:14)    *
    *  Eber to Peleg .............     34 yrs    (Genesis 11:16)    *
    *  Peleg to Reu  .............     30 yrs    (Genesis 11:18)    *
    *  Reu to Serug  .............     32 yrs    (Genesis 11:20)    *
    *  Serug to Nahor ............     30 yrs    (Genesis 11:22)    *
    *  Nahor to Terah ............     29 yrs    (Genesis 11:24)    *
    *  Terah to Abraham ..........     70 yrs    (Genesis 11:26)    *
    *                                 -------                       *
    *  Adam to Abraham  ..........   1948 yrs  (This same geneology *
    *                                           is in Luke 3:34-38) *
 Abraham to Isaac ..........   100 yrs  (Genesis 21:5)  *
       *  Isaac to Jacob ............    60 yrs  (Genesis 25:26) *
       *  Jacob to Egypt ............   130 yrs  (Genesis 47:28) *
       *                              ---------                  *
       *  Abraham to Egypt              290 yrs         
  ---- Jacob and his family went to Egypt                      *
    *                                                               *
    *       Jacob went to Egypt                (Genesis 46:8,11)    *
    *       Levi went to Egypt  (Jacob's son)  (Genesis 46:8,11)    *
    *       Kohath went to Egypt (Levi's son)  (Genesis 46:8,11)    *
    *                                                               *
    *       Kohath had a son named Amram       (Exodus 6:18)        *
    *       Amram had a son named Moses        (Exodus 6:20)        *
    *                                                               * 
    *  ---- Moses to the Exodus ..... 80 yrs   (Exodus 7:7,         *
    *                                           Acts 7:21-23, 29-30)*
    *                                                                 In Wilderness ................ 40 yrs (Numbers 32:13,        *
    *                                         Deuteronomy 2:7, 29:5 *
    *  Wilderness to death Joshua ... 30 yrs (Joshua 14:7,10, 24:29)*
    *                                --------                       *
    *  Exodus to death Joshua         70 yrs   
 Under King Cushanrishathaim ..   8 yrs  (Judges 3:8)          *
    * Under Othniel ................  40 yrs  (Judges 3:10-11)      *              * Under King Eglon .............  18 yrs  (Judges 3:14)         *
    * Under Ehud ...................  80 yrs  (Judges 3:15,30)      *              * Under King Jabid .............  20 yrs  (Judges 4:1-3)        *              * Under Deborah ................  40 yrs  (Judges 4:4, 5:31)    *              * Under Midianites .............   7 yrs  (Judges 6:1)          *              * Under Gideon .................  40 yrs  (Judges 6:7, 8:22,28) *              * Under Abimelech ..............   3 yrs  (Judges 8:32-35, 9:22)*              * Under Tola ...................  23 yrs  (Judges 10:1-2)       *              * Under Jair ...................  22 yrs  (Judges 10:3)         *
    * Under Ammonites ..............  18 yrs  (Judges 10:5-8)       *
    * Under Jephthah ...............   6 yrs  (Judges 12:7)         *
    * Under Ibzan ..................   7 yrs  (Judges 12:8-9)       *
    * Under Elon ...................  10 yrs  (Judges 12:11)        *
    * Under Abdon ..................   8 yrs  (Judges 12:13-14)     *
    * Under Philistines ............  40 yrs  (Judges 13:1)         *
    * Under Samson .................  20 yrs  (Judges 13:24, 15:20, *
    *                                                 16:30-31)     *
    * Under Eli/Samuel .............  40 yrs  (I Samuel 4:15,18,    *
    *                                          7:15, 8:1,4-7,19-22, *
    *                                          9:1-2)               *
    *                              ---------                        *
    * Judges to Samuel               450 yrs  (Acts 13:20)          *
    *                       
 Under King Saul ..............  40 yrs  (Acts 13:21)          *
    * Under King David .............  40 yrs  (I Chron 29:26-27)    * 
    * Under King Solomon ...........  40 yrs  (I Kings 11:42-43)    *
    * Under King Rehoboam ..........  17 yrs  (I Kings 14:21)       *
    * Under King Abijam ............   3 yrs  (I Kings 14:31,15:1-2)*
    * Under King Asa ...............  41 yrs  (I Kings 15:8-10)     *
    * Under King Jehoshaphat .......  25 yrs  (I Kings 22:41-42,50) *
    * Under King Jehoram ...........   8 yrs  (II Chron 21:5)       *
    * Under King Ahaziah ...........   1 yr   (II Chron. 22:1-2)    *
    * Under Queen Athaliah .........   6 yrs  (II Chron. 22:10-12)  *
    * Under King Joash .............  40 yrs  (II Chron. 23:13,15,  *
    *                                                    24:1)      *
    * Under King Amaziah ...........  29 yrs  (II Chron. 25:1)      *
    * Under Uzziah .................  52 yrs  (II Chron. 26:3)      *
    * Under Jotham .................  16 yrs  (II Chron. 27:1)      *
    * Under Ahaz ...................  16 yrs  (II Chron. 28:1)      *
    * Under Hezekiah ...............  29 yrs  (II Chron. 29:1)      *
    * Under Manasseh ...............  55 yrs  (II Chron. 33:1)      *
    * Under Amon ...................   2 yrs  (II Chron. 33:20-21)  *
    * Under King Josiah ............  31 yrs  (II Chron. 34:1)      *
    * Under King Jehoahaz ..........   3 mon  (II Chron. 36:1-2)    *
    * Under King Jehoiakim .........  11 yrs  (II Chron. 36:3-7)    *
    * Under King Jehoiachin ........   3 mon  (II Chron. 36:9)      *
    * Under King Zedekiah ..........  11 yrs  (II Chron. 36:11-21)  *
    *                               ---------                       *
    *             KINGS OF JUDAH     513 yrs 
 Adam to Abraham ..................    1948 yrs               *
    *  Abraham to Egypt .................     290 yrs               *
    *                                                               *
    *  From Egypt to Moses: (X) Let X = 63     63 yrs               *
    *                                                               *
    *       X = (Kohath to Amram to Moses)                          *
    *                                                               *
    *  Moses to the Exodus ..............      80 yrs               *
    *  Exodus to death Joshua ...........      70 yrs               *
    *  Judges to Samuel .................     450 yrs (Acts 13:20)  *
    *  Kings of Judah ...................     513 yrs               *
    *  Babylonian Captivity .............     586 B.C.E.            *
    *                                    ---------------            *
    *  Adam to Jesus                          4000 yrs       
the year is 2014 so 4000 plus 2014 means earth is 6014
THANK YOU.

better read genesis again. God was around BEFORE the earth was created , and before the bible was written!

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2014, 03:45:47 AM »
Numerous gods before the Christian one has died and risen from the grave. Always done to show they transcend what humans fear most.

Countless gods before the Christian god have conceived a child with a mortal woman.

Christianity is a mix of other religions, because the different states and countries within the Roman Empire had their own gods and religions. They were always starting wars in the name of them. To quell the unrest, the Emperor had a religion concocted that had several of the same myths, holidays, and beliefs that these religions had in common to make it easier for the citizens to convert to.
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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2014, 04:03:49 AM »
why didn't God go above and beyond for His children hi? God is not required to do anything! but what do you think about God sending Jesus to die for us so we can be forgiven of our sins? not enough for you????????
Not really, no. In fact even if any of it were true (Which you haven't even laid one piece of evidence that any judge would accept.) All you have laid out is that a faulty designer created faulty units and instead of accepting his creations he blames them and then sends his son to die just to prove to his creations how good he is. Now mind you this designer is supposed to be all knowing and all powerful, so fixing sin wouldn't have taken a nanosecond to do. He instead decides that he needs his Ego stroked even more. After he sends his son to die, (Which really meant nothing as he respawned in three days and was given second in command of the heavenly armies) he has his believers telling everyone that they go to hell unless they follow his one specific beliefs. Such a cluster to beliefs that there are thousands of denominations each saying they are the only way to heaven. Now with all this he decides to pull one more prank and actually makes it possible to figure out a way it could have all happened naturally. This isn't a good god, this is a Jerk who gets off on being better than everybody else.

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2014, 04:10:31 AM »
what is the source of your c&p? what about the period between the ot and the nt? are those yrs in jewish calendar yrs or our calendar yrs.

remember, to God 1 day is as a thousand yrs and a thousand yrs is as 1 day. there are those that think the earth was created in 6000 yrs. the age of the earth is irrelevant. there are many " theories". but no proof of the exact age of the earth. how can there be dinosaur bones millions of yrs old if the earth is 6014 yrs old?


any god other than the God of the bible is a myth. greek mythology for example?

Constantine did change the Sabbath, made Christianity legal, moved Christmas to dec 25. all to fool people to believe the pagan rituals were Christian holidays. jeremiah 10 explains how to observe those days. Contantine was a pagan

many things were done back then to trick people to go to what was referred to as Christianity, but was not. the bible is pretty clear on what Christianity is.

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2014, 04:16:34 AM »
evidence a judge would accept?? LOL LOL LOL LOL before a person testifies in court don't they swear an oath to be truthful "so help me God" LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

respawned???????????? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Jesus was resurrected. have you been lying all along about reading the bible and knowing it inside out???????????????????? I think so! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

you really have lost it and are living in a fantasyland!!!!!!!!!!LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Now you can admit you have never read the bible. your comments prove it!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2014, 01:04:40 PM »
what is the source of your c&p?It's called the bible, ever read it. I put the versus down for you what about the period between the ot and the nt?They are mentioned. We know how long it was from Nebecnezer to jesus. /color] are those yrs in jewish calendar yrs or our calendar yrs. Um earth years. The earth goes around the sun once a year. Israel doesn't go faster of slower.

remember, to God 1 day is as a thousand yrs and a thousand yrs is as 1 dayDoesn't mater, bible is talking about human days. And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.. there are those that think the earth was created in 6000 yrs. the age of the earth is irrelevantExcept every scientist thinks it's bull.. . there are many " theories". but no proof of the exact age of the earthCreationist can't even prove when the earth was created. LOL. how can there be dinosaur bones millions of yrs old if the earth is 6014 yrs old?Good question fish, How can dinosaur bones exist if your bible is true.


any god other than the God of the bible is a myth. greek mythology for example? any god is a myth, like the mythos of christianity for example.

Constantine did change the Sabbath, made Christianity legal, moved Christmas to dec 25. all to fool people to believe the pagan rituals were Christian holidays. jeremiah 10 explains how to observe those days. Contantine was a paganWell they all were but that is neither here nor there. 

many things were done back then to trick people to go to what was referred to as Christianity, but was not. the bible is pretty clear on what Christianity is.
Well next time maybe god should get a proofreader before writing another book. This one is full of fail.
evidence a judge would accept?? LOL LOL LOL LOL before a person testifies in court don't they swear an oath to be truthful "so help me God"Actually they dont have to say so help me god, and another point where religion crawls on secularism  LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

respawned???????????? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Jesus was resurrectedYes respawned, same thing. . have you been lying all along about reading the bible and knowing it inside outNo but have you????????????????????? I think so! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

you really have lost it and are living in a fantasylandTalking snakes and a world wide conspiricy to disprove god... Who is living in a fantasy life. !!!!!!!!!!LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Now you can admit you have never read the bible. your comments prove it!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Not knowing how stupid and evil your book of mythos really is. Please read it again, everyone please read the bible. We need more atheist.

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2014, 02:07:52 PM »
 Why can't the universe (and the earth) be 6000 years old? There is just as much evidence as there is for billions of years. I can answer one or two questions at a time but please don't put twenty on here I'm old and tired. Read some of Walter Brown's book "In the beginning" In Brown's In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood he suggests evidence against evolution and for creation science and flood geology (including hydroplates). It is divided into three sections, the first of which explores discoveries made by scientists that Brown says do not fit the theory of evolution.[5] The second section outlines various alternate explanations to geological and astronomical subjects such as the mid-oceanic ridge and comets, which Brown asserts modern science cannot explain. The final section presents a variety of other questions encountered in the creation-evolution controversy.
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« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2014, 02:23:00 PM »
There are trees older than 6000 years.........thats one of the simplest reasons.

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« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2014, 02:23:16 PM »
If God used something similar to a "white hole" to create the universe and the earth was one of the last things to come out it would be (and is) the center of the universe. And the universe would APPEAR much older than it is! read up on white holes too! If the universe is infinite then the CENTER is wher your a standin when you look at it! Doesn't matter ifen yur a goin around the sun or not!  http://www.universetoday.com/76909/white-holes/
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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2014, 02:28:34 PM »
There are trees older than 6000 years.........thats one of the simplest reasons.
I've read about those (spruce trees in Sweden) they died several times and were reborn. Just another crock of crap trying to disprove creation!
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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2014, 02:32:46 PM »
Evidence that Humans and Dinosaurs
 lived together, at the same time!


 Ica burial stone found in Peru

Response to the History Channel's The Quest for Dinosaurs program

The evolutionism myth is used to promote the erroneous belief that humans and dinosaurs lived millions of years apart from each other. Children and adults are indoctrinated with this 'belief' starting from early childhood with books that teach it.  It's reinforced in the public school system, the media and the entertainment industry.  Recent examples include the highly misleading TV documentary called Walking with Dinosaurs that aired on the Discovery Channel, and the History Channel's The Quest for Dinosaurs  program.

The Bible clearly teaches that  humans and dinosaurs (called "dragons" in the past) were created on the same day.  One must engage in hermeneutical back flips to interpret the Bible in any other way on this point.  It also goes on to describe interactions between humans and these creatures.


Close-up of a 3-toed dinosaur footprint in the mud taken in 1966.  Click here to read more about it.



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What many people are not aware of is that there exists a considerable body of evidence that supports the biblical claim of human/dinosaur interaction.  Some of this evidence suggests that this may be happening even today in certain parts of the world like the African Congo, and even here in the United States.

This evidence exists in many forms. Some examples include:

1.  Eye witness accounts by many people of creatures that are exactly like dinosaurs in appearance. The descriptions include not only sightings, but people actually hunting and killing them are being killed by them. These stories have been documented all over the world in many different cultures. They exist in the writings of several well-known ancient people, and have been documented by scientists as recently as a few years ago.  Some of the best information along these lines come from evolutionists in their book titled "A Living Dinosaur?".   
   
2.  Art work and various ancient artifacts depicting live dinosaurs by themselves, or interacting with humans. These include burial stones, burial cloths, clay figurines, cave drawings, etc.
   
3.  Fossilized footprints of humans and dinosaurs together. While some of these particular discoveries may be questionable, others appear to be far more reliable.

Because evolutionists and the news media have so thoroughly indoctrinated our society into believing we lived millions of years apart from dinosaurs, many will immediately dismiss such evidences as hoaxes, or the result of overactive imaginations. However, like many other 'anomalies' that evolutionists try to explain away or dismiss, this evidence is far too abundant worldwide to ignore.

The problem for evolutionists is that if this is true, it would deal a major blow to evolutionism theory. Some evolutionists will say that if a few dinosaurs were found alive today, it would not do harm to evolutionism. But we're not talking about a few isolated incidents. There are many incidents around the world that are documented in many different cultures. The evidence suggests that this interaction between humans and dinosaurs has in the past been wide-spread, not isolated. If true, this would indeed present a major problem for evolutionists to explain using their world view of origins.

In the months to come, we will be trying to obtain permission to put as much of this evidence as we can on our web site.

 
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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2014, 02:34:15 PM »
If God used something similar to a "white hole" to create the universe and the earth was one of the last things to come out it would be (and is) the center of the universe. And the universe would APPEAR much older than it is! read up on white holes too! If the universe is infinite then the CENTER is wher your a standin when you look at it! Doesn't matter ifen yur a goin around the sun or not!  http://www.universetoday.com/76909/white-holes/
Any proof for that white hole of yours, or just a hypothesis? I mean there are just too many holes in the idea of a white hole.

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #43 on: May 02, 2014, 02:58:06 PM »
I can't prove how God made everything in 6 days. I can read up on things like white holes and clearly see that its possible our dates are wrong. They have changed several time during my lifetime.
1965
 Age: 10-25 Billion Years
 Size: 25 Billion Light Years

The farthest objects in 1965 were the quasars. The most distant known quasar, named 3C9, was found to be about 12 billion light years away. This gives a size for the universe of about 25 billion light years.

In 1958, Alan Sandage again lowered the value of Hubble's constant, but ended up with a range of ages for the Universe between 15 and 25 billion years. As of 1965, this uncertainty remained, since subsequent studies by a variety of astronomers found different values within this range.

1993
 Age: 12-20 Billion Years
 Size: 30 Billion Light Years

Quasars continue to define the size of the universe into the early 1990's. Quasars had been found with recessional velocities nearly 90% the speed of light, giving distances of 15 billion light years. This gives a size of the universe of 30 billion light years across.

The value of Hubble's constant remained uncertain, giving a range in age for the universe of 12-20 billion years.

2006
 Age: 13.7 Billion Years
 Size: 94 Billion Light Years

The most distant objects in the Universe are 47 billion light years away, making the size of the observable Universe 94 billion light years across. How can the observable universe be larger than the time it takes light to travel over the age of the Universe? This is because the universe has been expanding during this time. This causes very distant objects to be further away from us than their light travel time. For additional information, see Ned Wright's Cosmology FAQ.

The Hubble Key Project, conducted by the Hubble Space Telescope from 1991 to 2000, nailed down the value of the Hubble Constant and hence the age of the Universe. Results from the WMAP satellite further confirmed and refined the age of the Universe to be 13.7 billion years.
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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2014, 03:15:42 PM »
i dont see your point.....we are far from being able technology wise to nail down a specific age, either way those numbers are far form 6000.  I also dont see how you can believe in things like white holes and dismiss other scientific theories.

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2014, 04:43:46 PM »
i dont see your point.....we are far from being able technology wise to nail down a specific age, either way those numbers are far form 6000.  I also dont see how you can believe in things like white holes and dismiss other scientific theories.
Also notice we were never wrong, only able to nail the date down better.

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2014, 07:48:51 PM »
Also notice we were never wrong, only able to nail the date down better.
Every generation of atheists say they have it "nailed down" and every time they are wrong (including your generation)
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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2014, 07:54:18 PM »
i dont see your point.....we are far from being able technology wise to nail down a specific age, either way those numbers are far form 6000.  I also dont see how you can believe in things like white holes and dismiss other scientific theories.
I don't dismiss all scientific theories. I have just learned that the ones that stay true to the Bible always seem to make more sense! As most scientists learn more about their particular field of study they always conclude that we were created by God! There is no other answer. Young earth sounds crazy only because we have been taught wrong for many years now, but if you really look into it and study it ......it makes more sense to me than the billions of years/ molecules to man theory!
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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2014, 08:01:28 PM »
hi disproved your post ebilly. LOL LOL LOL LOL

You have lied about reading the bible. I reread it often. I learn someting new many times.

YES! Everyone should read the bible, even you! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL


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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2014, 10:59:31 PM »
hi disproved your post ebilly. LOL LOL LOL LOLum how? (now lets see how you misunderstand how I told you what the bible said, and what the truth is.)

You have lied about reading the bible.I have red it, but the thing is I read other things as well. I test all things by there fruit, and science has given us pretty good fruit. I reread it often. I learn someting new many times.

YES! Everyone should read the bible, even you! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOLAnd hold it to the same criteria you hold anything else you read.

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #50 on: May 02, 2014, 11:10:43 PM »
Every generation of atheists say they have it "nailed down" and every time they are wrong (including your generation)
The difference is that we learn, we improve... We might be off, but most likely we will just nail it closer to the exact date.
Tell us how the earth sits on a foundation, or about the firmament

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #51 on: May 03, 2014, 04:24:20 AM »
you don't know what the truth is. you believe your lies are the truth!

you have red(read) the bible? you have not proven it! LOL LOL LOL LOL comic books don't count!

science? you trust there(their) fruit??? which is.................

read slower...I read the bible, I also reread the bible. I suggest you do the same! LOL LOL LOL LOL

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #52 on: May 03, 2014, 04:27:14 AM »
at least you admit you are off! LOL LOL LOL LOL

maybe read this?LOL LOL LOL LOL http://nextbigfuture.com/2014/05/problems-with-big-bang-expanding.html

not news to most, scientific theories on the creation of the universe are still unproven! EVERY SINGLE ONE!LOL LOL LOLLOL LOL LOLLOL LOL LOL

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #53 on: May 04, 2014, 07:55:39 PM »
The difference is that we learn, we improve... We might be off, but most likely we will just nail it closer to the exact date.
Tell us how the earth sits on a foundation, or about the firmament
Do you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? 22It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. ( The Bible also says "circle of the earth" kinda blows your flat earth theory all to hell doesn't it?) The "Firmament" could easily have been a canopy of water which helped things survive before the flood and aided in the flooding when it occurred!
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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #54 on: May 04, 2014, 08:16:33 PM »
Do you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? 22It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. ( The Bible also says "circle of the earth" kinda blows your flat earth theory all to hell doesn't it?No circles are flat, orbs are 3d. Learn math. ) The "Firmament" could easily have been a canopy of water which helped things survive before the flood and aided in the flooding when it occurred!
Um No the firmament would kill all life by freezing the planet. Learn science.
And Prometheus came down and brought fire to the humans..
every culture has myths.

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #55 on: May 04, 2014, 08:22:39 PM »
Um No the firmament would kill all life by freezing the planet. Learn science.
And Prometheus came down and brought fire to the humans..
every culture has myths.
Um...No God put it there and He kinda knows what he's doing!
"learn science" LOL LOL What do you think? Scientists put a firmament up there and tested it? (And you helped right?) Your a joke Dude on every subject.
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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #56 on: May 04, 2014, 08:36:39 PM »
Um...No God put it there and He kinda knows what he's doing!
"learn science" LOL LOL What do you think? Scientists put a firmament up there and tested it? (And you helped right?) Your a joke Dude on every subject.
No it's simple science. If you have a ton of ice above the earth less sunlight gets through. It's not that hard to figure out that if you build a house out of ice is insulate you. If you build are firmament around the planet you keep the light from getting to earth.

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #57 on: May 04, 2014, 10:37:01 PM »
what you are describing ebilly is based on different scientific models, none have been proven. same for evolution, it has not been proven.

read genesis. the answer is there, not in your comic book!

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #58 on: May 04, 2014, 11:15:23 PM »
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

— Psalm 19:1 KJV

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Re: Do You Believe that Evolution is True?
« Reply #59 on: May 04, 2014, 11:22:49 PM »
what you are describing ebilly is based on different scientific models, none have been proven. same for evolution, it has not been proven.

read genesis. the answer is there, not in your comic book!
Ice is a theory now. We have fridges Fish, we know about ice. We have made homes of ICE, they are called Igloos and we know how they work.
ICE, how does it work...