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The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« on: June 02, 2014, 10:49:51 PM »

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2014, 03:11:29 AM »
nobama opened the door for the Taliban to capture more Americans. 5:1 trade is hard to beat!

nobama also broke several laws in the process, nothing will happen.

bergdahl is seen as a deserter/traitor by those who served with him.

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2014, 11:53:51 AM »
our joke for a president continues

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2014, 02:29:53 PM »
I don't understand the problem honestly. We got a soldier back, they got 5 people who had not been charged with a crime back. Where is the problem, Isn't it about time we discussed with the Taliban how to live at peace?

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2014, 08:05:41 PM »
I don't understand the problem honestly. We got a soldier back, they got 5 people who had not been charged with a crime back. Where is the problem, Isn't it about time we discussed with the Taliban how to live at peace?
When I saw your name on this thread I was truly hoping you were going to say something intelligent for a change. Didn't happen :(
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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2014, 09:03:29 PM »
When I saw your name on this thread I was truly hoping you were going to say something intelligent for a change. Didn't happen :(
Yes a insult... Wow start things off right. Now explain why we should keep people locked up without trial forever. It is against the constitution and the Geneva convention. We are making more terrorist by holding innocent people forever in prison than releasing even known terrorist. If they are going to stay detained they need a day in court. Even Reagan would have agreed with that.

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2014, 10:25:22 PM »
Say bye to Mark everyone, I can't stand to read his words any longer.. Look at that shameful picture on his page..

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2014, 12:28:35 AM »
Say bye to Mark everyone, I can't stand to read his words any longer.. Look at that shameful picture on his page..


Mark gone?  There is a God....   :yahoo:

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2014, 01:25:11 AM »
Say bye to Mark everyone, I can't stand to read his words any longer.. Look at that shameful picture on his page..

I'm unsure how to express my thoughts on this.
But I'm sure the freedom of expression is necessary.
This forum has been very forgiving in the past.




"The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?"

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2014, 01:32:14 AM »
Mark has issues doctors probably can't fix and I am sick of reading his lame cut n pastes..

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2014, 02:48:32 AM »
Your right.
There's a saying 
"Your about to exceed the limits of my medication"
Mark,  with his cut and pastes is guilty of this more than any one else.

The key words are "the limits of my medication"
I can understand were he is coming from.
Not all of us are blessed with normalcy.
"The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?"

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2014, 03:00:34 AM »
you should read a little ebilly before entering a discussion. Bergdahl will most likely be charged with desertion, he walked off the line. Read what the men that were in his co. have to say. nobama broke laws getting him back the way he did. those were 5 Taliban terrorists. read up so you will no longer be speaking from ignorance.

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2014, 03:10:20 AM »
Thanks for bring the post back to the subject.
Guess Mark is toast.

I don't know if Sgt Bergdah is guilty of anything.
But he is going to be in the middle of a political battle.
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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2014, 03:31:39 AM »
you should read a little ebilly before entering a discussion. Bergdahl will most likely be charged with desertion, he walked off the line. Read what the men that were in his co. have to say. nobama broke laws getting him back the way he did. those were 5 Taliban terrorists. read up so you will no longer be speaking from ignorance.
Possible (Heck even probable) desertion aside he was kidnapped by the Taliban, not joined them willingly. Should he be in prison... Most likely but he should not be held captive by the enemy. It doesn't matter how big a ass you are, NO MAN GETS LEFT BEHIND. We are better than that as a nation.

As for the 'Terrorist'... Charge them with a crime or let them go...

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2014, 03:46:38 AM »
they were at gitmo for 5 yrs. nobama expects them to show up on the battle field again! you really should read up so you don't continue to sound like a dumbass!

http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/bergdahls-unit-comrades-recount-his-disappearance

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2014, 03:57:11 AM »
they were at gitmo for 5 yrs. nobama expects them to show up on the battle field again! you really should read up so you don't continue to sound like a dumbass!

http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/bergdahls-unit-comrades-recount-his-disappearance
It doesn't matter. I don't care if it was satan, Hitler, Robo Barney, Evil Santa and Freddy Krueger. If they did not have a trial, or were arraigned on they should be freed. I care about our laws and the constitution. I guess you do not.

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2014, 04:00:24 AM »
Five Taliban have been turned lose.
I'd like to know were they go and who the talk to.
Bet this info is being gathered.
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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2014, 04:06:06 AM »
Five Taliban have been turned lose.
I'd like to know were they go and who the talk to.
Bet this info is being gathered.
I don't doubt it, and it will hurt us, but a physical wound is much easier to heal then the destruction of out moral fiber. A man who will sacrifice his freedom for safety deserves neither.

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2014, 01:01:44 PM »
they are not entitled to our rights. that is why they are at gitmo and not held on US soil.

they are in doha qatar, moving around freely.

still didn't read up, eh? continue to be the dumbass and support the terrorists

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2014, 04:25:46 PM »
they are not entitled to our rights. that is why they are at gitmo and not held on US soil.
They are entitled to the Geneva convention though... Except they aren't because america says they aren't. 

they are in doha qatar, moving around freely.
They are in prison, without a trial or a chance to prove their innocence...

still didn't read up, eh? continue to be the dumbass and support the terrorists
Terrorist, Such a childish word. We are in there nation attacking them and they are the terrorist. LOL great way to be a real Merican.

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2014, 04:45:29 PM »
they are being well taken care of at gitmo. some of them are not wanted back by their own countries.

you want to take the side of the terrorists??

maybe read about the topic at hand instead of dancing around supporting the terrorists?

too lazy to read about bergdahl still???? but you want to hijack to thread to nonsense?

so the terrorists were just being childish on 9/11??

we are attacking them??????????  all those people on 9/11 deserved what they got??



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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2014, 11:23:18 AM »
Yes a insult... Wow start things off right. Now explain why we should keep people locked up without trial forever. It is against the constitution and the Geneva convention. We are making more terrorist by holding innocent people forever in prison than releasing even known terrorist. If they are going to stay detained they need a day in court. Even Reagan would have agreed with that.

Obama has committed yet another crime against this country.  He has provided aid and comfort to the enemy.  Most importantly, he has now also negotiated with the terrorists and opened the door to having soldiers (not just deserters) being held for ransom and trades.  And they will get their way.  He did this unilaterally and against the NDAA.  I know, I know, HE gave himself the authority to do this.  To break yet another law.  You say we should not hold people indefinitely.  Ok, Read the NDAA with amendments.  Please read where he has also given himself authority (by his signature) to indefinitely hold American citizens without recourse to the Constitution.  Obama has already executed some Americans without trial.  Why stop now?  He wants to be YOUR king.  He will never be mine.

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2014, 11:25:46 AM »
Possible (Heck even probable) desertion aside he was kidnapped by the Taliban, not joined them willingly. Should he be in prison... Most likely but he should not be held captive by the enemy. It doesn't matter how big a ass you are, NO MAN GETS LEFT BEHIND. We are better than that as a nation.

As for the 'Terrorist'... Charge them with a crime or let them go...

No man left behind?  Benghazie anyone?  Anyone?

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« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2014, 03:42:42 PM »
we have a marine in mexico being held. why didn't nobama get him home?

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2014, 06:15:49 PM »
Wow sad to see Mark go, but that picture was pushing the limits.    ***(((*       ^^^%%%

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2014, 01:05:45 AM »
Mark, is once again in the quiet room with no problems and very good drugs.
Back to the original post.
Was trading Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl for 5 Guantanamo prisoners a good idea?
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« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2014, 01:50:28 AM »
nope. the 5 prisoners were requested by name by the terrorists, they were not random picks. even the Taliban has said the trade emboldens them to capture American troops now. bergdahl was not a pow. he walked off the line

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2014, 03:21:13 AM »
Did Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl  "walk off the line"
Or is he a POW being victimized for political gain?
Your making serious accusations against an American soldier.
As they say in America, innocent until proven guilty.
Or was that judge not least you be judged?

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Re: The USA traded 5 probable Taliban for 1 US soldier.
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2014, 04:26:38 AM »
5 Indications that Bowe Bergdahl Is a Traitor
PJ Media ^ | June 6, 2014 | Robert Spencer

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It is well established now that Bowe Bergdahl, the Army sergeant for whom Barack Obama traded five top Taliban jihad commanders to get him out of captivity in Afghanistan, is a deserter. But there are also numerous indications that Bergdahl is something even worse: a traitor to the United States of America.

Although the White House continues to ignore the evidence that Bergdahl deserted, every day new revelations make the case increasingly compelling. According to Colonel David Hunt, Bergdahl “called his unit the day after he deserted to tell his unit he deserted.”

Nathan Bradley Bethea, a former infantry officer who served with Bowe Bergdahl, wrote in the Daily Beast on Monday that “Bergdahl was a deserter, and soldiers from his own unit died trying to track him down.” Bethea refuted reports that Bergdahl got separated from his unit while on patrol:

Make no mistake: Bergdahl did not “lag behind on a patrol,” as was cited in news reports at the time. There was no patrol that night. Bergdahl was relieved from guard duty, and instead of going to sleep, he fled the outpost on foot. He deserted. I’ve talked to members of Bergdahl’s platoon — including the last Americans to see him before his capture. I’ve reviewed the relevant documents. That’s what happened.

Army intelligence several times discovered where Bergdahl was being held, but special forces commanders declined to rescue someone they considered to be a deserter.

The Pentagon concluded the same thing in 2010: “Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl walked away from his unit, and after an initial flurry of searching the military decided not to exert extraordinary efforts to rescue him, according to a former senior defense official who was involved in the matter.” This official said that the evidence that Bergdahl had deserted was “incontrovertible.”

But is he a traitor as well? Here are five reasons to think so:

5. The precision of post-desertion IEDs.

Former Army Sgt. Evan Buetow, who served with Bergdahl and was present the night he disappeared, says flatly:

“Bergdahl is a deserter, and he’s not a hero. He needs to answer for what he did.” Even worse, Buetow recounted that days after Bergdahl vanished from the U.S. base, there were reports that he was in a nearby village looking for someone who spoke English, so that he could establish communications with the Taliban. Soon afterward, Buetow recalled, “IEDs started going off directly under the trucks. They were getting perfect hits every time. Their ambushes were very calculated, very methodical.”

Bergdahl knew where the trucks would be going and when; said Buetow: “We were incredibly worried” that the Taliban’s “prisoner of war” was passing this information on to his captors in order to help them place their bombs most effectively.

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4. Defense Department “concerns.”

The Defense Department was concerned enough about this possibility to launch a full investigation. Fox News reported Monday that Bergdahl — “both in his final stretch of active duty in Afghanistan and then, too, during his time when he lived among the Taliban — has been thoroughly investigated by the U.S. intelligence community and is the subject of ‘a major classified file.’ In conveying as much, the Defense Department source confirmed to Fox News that many within the intelligence community harbor serious outstanding concerns not only that Bergdahl may have been a deserter but that he may have been an active collaborator with the enemy.”

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

3. His email to his father.

Just days before he left his unit, Bergdahl wrote to his father in somewhat less than patriotic terms: “I am sorry for everything here. These people need help, yet what they get is the most conceited country in the world telling them that they are nothing and that they are stupid.” He declared: “I am ashamed to be an American. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools. I am sorry for everything. The horror that is America is disgusting.”

His father responded: “OBEY YOUR CONSCIENCE!” Bergdahl apparently did by deserting and seeking out the Taliban.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

2. The note he left behind.

Fox News reported Tuesday that according to “sources who had debriefed two former members of Bergdahl’s unit,” the deserter “left behind a note the night he left base in which he expressed disillusionment with the Army and being an American and suggested that he wanted to renounce his American citizenship and go find the Taliban.”

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

1. His conversion to Islam and self-description as a “mujahid.”

The Taliban claimed in 2010 that Bergdahl had converted to Islam and was teaching its jihadists how to make bombs. There is no reason to take anything that Taliban spokesmen say at face value, but secret documents revealed Thursday afternoon corroborate the claim. According to one of these documents, dated August 23, 2012, “conditions for Bergdahl have greatly relaxed since the time of the escape. Bergdahl has converted to Islam and now describes himself as a mujahid. Bergdahl enjoys a modicum of freedom, and engages in target practice with the local mujahedeen, firing AK47s. Bergdahl is even allowed to carry a loaded gun on occasion. Bergdahl plays soccer with his guards and bounds around the pitch like a mad man. He appears to be well and happy, and has a noticeable habit of laughing frequently and saying ‘Salaam’ repeatedly.”

Why has none of this been known until now? These secret documents have just been revealed, and Bergdahl’s fellow American soldiers have just been released from a gag order that threatened them with legal action if they spoke about Bergdahl’s desertion. Why the cover-up? Did the Obama administration want to spare itself the embarrassment, after Fort Hood jihad mass murderer Major Nidal Hasan and his would-be imitator, Pfc. Naser Abdo, of yet another Muslim soldier turning traitor?

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, has said that “it’s premature” to assume that Bergdahl will not be investigated. Still, although it would be the just and proper thing to investigate Bergdahl for both desertion and treason, it does seem unlikely that he will be investigated for either. Such an investigation would embarrass the Obama administration even more than it has been already and the mainstream media will do all it can to make sure that such humiliation is kept to an absolute minimum. John Boehner, for his part, will just burst into tears and give Obama whatever he wants.

To investigate, much less to try Bowe Bergdahl, despite the fact that evidence of his misconduct continues to mount, would require an honest president, a robust opposition party, and a media determined to uncover the truth. Strike one, strike two, strike three.
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3164934/posts