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Re: ASSAULT IN WALMART PARKING LOT
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2007, 03:28:37 AM »

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It starts when kids are babies....not getting the discipline or direction or guidance they need.  Then when they are teens (or even pre-teens) and out of control, the parents ask what happened?  But by then it's too late.

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« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2007, 03:33:37 AM »
I have to make a comment about the fact of blaming the parents... sometimes you can... sometimes you cant! There are parents out there who do not give a care about their kids cause they are out themselves teaching them this behavior.

I for one have a teenage son who has found a few new friends and I am not liking his behavior. I DID not raise him this way and have been very strict as far as my children goes. My daughter did well, not perfect but got her thru what I needed to. My son however works and pays for his own insurance. We make him mow and take out trash and keep his room clean although there are times that we have to argue with him to get him to do the things at home. He now is on the kick that he is 17 because... when he called to be out past his Curfew I told him NO!  he went uptown to the city hall walked straight in and asked the officer what the legal age to leave home was... without asking him any questions the officer told him 17! and my son left.
He then came home and started packing his stuff and informed me that he went to the cops and he was allowed to leave if he wanted to and that He didn't have to listen to us anymore!!

Now... he started packing his things... grabbed his truck keys...and I met him at the door. I told him that we paid for his items and they didn't go with him! I also informed him that even though he paid for his own truck... that his dads name is on it till he is 18 (has to be for insurance) so he was not taking it! He was surprised and stated and I quote, " I can't take my clothes and my things with me?" and I said NO! There's the door if he wanted to leave he leaves the same way he came in with nothing!!!

He left and 15 minutes later he was back and went straight to his room. I haven't had a problem with him now in 4 days!!!!! Knock on wood.

I am however I'll say it like I mean it... Pissed Off at that officer for just telling him yes and not getting to the bottom of the problem first or even trying to talk to my son before giving him an answer! I called that officer and he asked "did you want me to lie about the law?" I was so mad! I just told him no sir I don't however you just took the control away from me and his father so... if he goes out and drinks or does drugs and gets killed... rather it is your fault or not?! I will always blame you!!

You be perfect parents and try and teach your child but society today is not the same as when we were kids, they will do as they please and they will just have to suffer the consequences for it not the parent.

What city did that happen in?
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Re: ASSAULT IN WALMART PARKING LOT
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2007, 03:34:59 AM »
That's why some animals eat their young, I'm told.

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Re: ASSAULT IN WALMART PARKING LOT
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2007, 04:26:25 AM »
Are you serious, theater?  Do you even remember high school? 

And most of the things you listed I wouldn't LET my children do unsupervised by an adult because of the world we live in today.  I wouldn't let my kids go to the river or hike through the woods by themselves.  There are nuts out there just waiting for that.

I do not know where you live, but my son and his friends, have always went camping, hike in the woods and caving. We have never worried about nuts around here. I think it is a very safe environment. They always found something to do on the weekend. and the paintball gun wars I almost forgot them.

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« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2007, 04:47:54 AM »
I have NEVER had problems till now and now he went to the law and is throwing it in my face now. The officer from here who told him that with out ever inquiring any other info told me when I called him that if I didn't like the law to go to my legislaters! Yah like I can change the law by myself! How can we fight to keep them in school till they graduate if they are told they are allowed to leave at 17?

If it's the same one I have dealt with over here, he needs to learn some tact!  And he is too lazy to find out what's going on first before he ~attempts~ to quote the laws!
I think they need to change the laws with kids in a few different areas....1st~if a child drops out of school they should lose their licenses!  2nd~If they drop below a certain grade point average their licenses should be reduced back to a permit!  3rd~A child should be under the control of their parents until they graduate from HS! 
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Re: ASSAULT IN WALMART PARKING LOT
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2007, 06:55:12 AM »
Are you serious, theater?  Do you even remember high school? 

And most of the things you listed I wouldn't LET my children do unsupervised by an adult because of the world we live in today.  I wouldn't let my kids go to the river or hike through the woods by themselves.  There are nuts out there just waiting for that.

I agree for the most part, but the kinds of teens that hang out in parking lots (whether or not the WM group is applicable) aren't supervised anyway.

Yeah, I remember high school. I was in drama. One of my daughters regularly performs in school plays and community theater (she's 16) and still tries to get away with whatever she can. I can imagine if she had that much MORE time on her hands.
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Re: ASSAULT IN WALMART PARKING LOT
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2007, 06:58:57 AM »
Hey! Thanks! My son is very emotional, angry and confused it seems like? I often wonder what did I do wrong? we set limit and boundries, they got those swats at school as well as at home. I even took my son when he was 12 straight over to the PDSD when he went to hit me when I was spanking him on his butt! I always told them they would never do that or I would take them to jail myself. so.. i did what I warned. That officer over there sat him down with me behind him and I tell you what... he did a great job! By the time he was done my son wanted me and that officer told him that he couldnt even look at me. he had to look at him in his face and answer with yes sir no sir!

My son later for mothers day made me a poem and at the end of it wrote (and I have it in my hope chest) thank you for taking me to juevy hall, I needed it and it showed me you loved me!  I cried like a baby!! It wasn't even a juevinal officer that talked to him but he thought so and he also was asked if he wanted to see that officers bedrooms? LOL I love that officer for doing what he did and taking the time out to do what he did.

When I first got there they said they couldn't do anything that it was a juevinile matter but... I told them that I had always warned my children that if they tried to hit me I would take them straight to jail myself... I also told them that I had to stand my ground and follow thru. The officer then contacted the juevenile officer and he gave him permission and then the officer proceeded out to my van and removed my son himself and escorted him into a room!

I have NEVER had problems till now and now he went to the law and is throwing it in my face now. The officer from here who told him that with out ever inquiring any other info told me when I called him that if I didn't like the law to go to my legislaters! Yah like I can change the law by myself! How can we fight to keep them in school till they graduate if they are told they are allowed to leave at 17? all the kid has to do is get mad one day and all those years are tossed down the drain! Atleast change it till they are graduated from school maybe then we wouldnt have drop out rates like we do!



LOL - reminds me of something that happened with my oldest girl. She decided she didn't have to come home on time, listen to me, etc. So I told her I was taking her car keys. She argued that she paid for the car, so I couldn't take them. I showed her the door, and she decided I could take the keys.

BTW, though... Your son has been very pleasant when I've called.
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Re: ASSAULT IN WALMART PARKING LOT
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2007, 02:27:43 AM »
This is not true because I did disipline my child and set boundries and now that he is 17 he's alittle bit out of control and that IS not my fault! It is the music, television & things they see on the internet and peer pressure from kids who are out of control who cause the good ones to act out. I know I'm living it. And now that an officer told him 17 he can leave... well I also stepped in and told him he left with what he came into this world with and that deterred him so I therefore stepped in as a parent and took care of it. So you cannot blame the parents in all cases nore say they are to blame!

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Re: ASSAULT IN WALMART PARKING LOT
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2007, 04:01:14 AM »
Thank you for letting everyone know. My son goes up there every once in a while. And his Grandpa. The call it a Car Meet and I don't see any harm either.
those people hanging out in the parking lot at wal-mart aren't just people that have nothing to do.. they're a car club and that's where they have car meetings sometimes.. they even hang out in the ramada inn parking lot.. i've been to some of these meetings and these cars are bad ass, ya'll should check em out sometime.. and no one is causing any trouble.. cars is their hobby so be cool about it

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« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2007, 09:01:19 AM »
This is not true because I did disipline my child and set boundries and now that he is 17 he's alittle bit out of control and that IS not my fault! It is the music, television & things they see on the internet and peer pressure from kids who are out of control who cause the good ones to act out. I know I'm living it. And now that an officer told him 17 he can leave... well I also stepped in and told him he left with what he came into this world with and that deterred him so I therefore stepped in as a parent and took care of it. So you cannot blame the parents in all cases nore say they are to blame!


Sounded to me like you handled that situation well, and that the "amen" comment wouldn't be about you. But Blissfullybusy's point does apply to a lot of people, but they're a little more extreme than a 17-year old wanting to leave home!
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« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2007, 01:45:23 AM »
Sounded to me like you handled that situation well, and that the "amen" comment wouldn't be about you. But Blissfullybusy's point does apply to a lot of people, but they're a little more extreme than a 17-year old wanting to leave home!
mine comes and goes between my house and dad's > i told him i was plumb sick of it and he needed to figure out who the heck he was living with cause i'm sick and tired of being upset!

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« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2007, 08:02:04 PM »
Kristi I know how you feel. Mine says if I move he would live with me then he turns around and said that if he lived with me he wouldnt get to do anything so he'll live with his dad. Now he is saying he will live in my nephews camper cause he isnt going to live with either one of us??!  Kids in there teens are terrible to try and work with I know but you just have to put your foot down thats it no matter how much it hurts and don't let them see ya cry!! 


mine comes and goes between my house and dad's > i told him i was plumb sick of it and he needed to figure out who the heck he was living with cause i'm sick and tired of being upset!
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« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2007, 10:23:14 PM »
Kristi I know how you feel. Mine says if I move he would live with me then he turns around and said that if he lived with me he wouldnt get to do anything so he'll live with his dad. Now he is saying he will live in my nephews camper cause he isnt going to live with either one of us??!  Kids in there teens are terrible to try and work with I know but you just have to put your foot down thats it no matter how much it hurts and don't let them see ya cry!! 

A lot of the 17 year old actions and mindset are based on emotion and peer pressure.  I used to think TV, music, etc, etc....hogwash - they are only peripheral issues if the parent(s) have been doing their part.

Having raised 3 boys through that stage there is only one other thing I wished I had challenged them with - you have the emotions of a woman right now, the body of a man and the mind of a 2 year old - get some balance and then come back and talk to me.

Please don't take offense at the emotions of a woman thing - it is very true that they are very emotionally wired at that stage, and throwing in the other sex is beneficial if you think about it.  It takes away the vision of manhood / toughguy they think they are experiencing.

All three of mine tried that same scenario - I countered it with the oldest by saying simply - you aren't going to do that, and hold on a moment while I call 9-11......whya callin them dad?  Cause your probaly going to need some patchwork done if you DO run off......I may as well warn them for your sake.

The youngest was much more clever - his "buddy" had come to pick him up.....his buddy was 19, my son was 16.  I simply told his buddy that if they pulled out of the driveway, I would hold him personally responsible for my son's health care, well being and ensuring he graduates from school.  Or I would certainly be calling 9-11 for him ahead of time.

I wish you luck with your sons.  It isn't easy, but these days too shall pass.  The Deputy / Officer Kristis son talked to was dead wrong and should be reprimanded for that type of advice.

Funny thing about all that with mine - we have all grown into a much larger "family" in spite of it.  Even some of the peers (not all) we had issues with.  Hold your ground Ladies. :)

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« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2007, 02:36:35 AM »


Having raised 3 boys through that stage there is only one other thing I wished I had challenged them with - you have the emotions of a woman right now, the body of a man and the mind of a 2 year old - get some balance and then come back and talk to me.


What a great phrase!! I agree with every single word of your post, too. Hang in there, it (mostly) gets better eventually.
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« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2007, 04:29:49 AM »
Thank you retired. This helped alot. Sorry to take away from the topic I guess we need to start a parent help thread huh? Give each other advice or just uplift one another when we are ready to pull our hair out???  %%$%$$#
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« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2007, 05:38:28 AM »
Just saw that one has been posted.
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« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2007, 03:37:04 PM »
Boy igahmah, you really opened a can of worms with your post...LOL. Don't worry, we all take a turn at it. Besides, what would the message board be without a little excitement anyhow? %%$%$$#
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