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Author Topic: New CPR promises better results by compressing abdomen, not chest  (Read 1966 times)

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Re: New CPR promises better results by compressing abdomen, not chest
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2007, 02:15:30 PM »
That sounds more like the Heimlich Maneuver than anything.  Now all you have to worry about is all that food in the stomach coming up. YUCK

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Re: New CPR promises better results by compressing abdomen, not chest
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2007, 05:04:59 PM »
It's a very interesting, I'd be interested in learning more about this.
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Re: New CPR promises better results by compressing abdomen, not chest
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2007, 05:48:29 PM »
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Re: New CPR promises better results by compressing abdomen, not chest
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2007, 05:21:37 AM »
These things come and go so often. I think there needs to be more research and empirical data. Actually, in my opinion, CPR alone rarely (if ever) saves anyone. I believe it takes a combination of good CPR, defibrillation, an IV started and the appropriate drugs administered. Time has much to do with it. If the heart is asystole (flat line) and the patient has been long without oxygen to the brain, they just won't survive, at least without sifnificant brain damage.  More coming, if I type too long of a thing my computer freezes on here for some reason.

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Re: New CPR promises better results by compressing abdomen, not chest
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2007, 05:29:58 AM »
CPR done correctly, rarely fractures ribs. I know it happens, more frequently in the elderly and probably from people without adequate training; however, the model of the AHA and Red Cross is to have a lot of lay persons trained; therefore I think it just may happen. But, to be honest in the scheme of things, if the CPR does save a life a fractured rib might be a worthy trade. Really though, rapid defibillation is the answer. Most every time a person is saved it is following defibrillation. I really like the new models where we train and put Automated. or semi-automated external defibrillators (AEDS) everywhere. These will save (the ones that are possible) lives. It is my opinion that these AEDs should be on every fire engine, in the trunk of every cop car, in as many public buildings as possible. Maybe even out on poles, like emergency telephones.

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Re: New CPR promises better results by compressing abdomen, not chest
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2007, 04:41:27 PM »
That sounds like a great idea.
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Re: New CPR promises better results by compressing abdomen, not chest
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2007, 02:54:45 AM »
Thank you kbohon, we have AEDs on most all fire engines and in several of the schools. The Sellers-Sexton Ford led the way here for a business placing AEDs in a busy area. Of course we have had defibrillators on the ambulances for years. The next step would be in cop cars and any busy location. Cop cars are ideal because there are so many of them and they are in so many areas and often first on scene.

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Re: New CPR promises better results by compressing abdomen, not chest
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2007, 04:41:24 AM »
Probably should be something that gets legislated or built into building codes for public places like they do with fire extinguishers.
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