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I am on the Attack
« on: December 14, 2007, 11:15:41 PM »

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I jsut read the article concerning Billy and the Sheriff.  Seems he wants to "discuss" the auditors recommendations.  He also wants to see about JB selling off guns that are no longer of evidentiary value.  No billy, you cannot just buy one of them off the steps.  They must be sold to a person with a Federal Firearms License.  and, Billy, you cannot control those funds either.  They need to go straight to the Sheriff's funds, not your general fund so you can give the money to one of your buddies.  I believe I will get with Dave Day on this one and get the RSMo so we can all know how much Billy is trying to screw us this time.  When billy brings up audit recommendations, I suggest he look at his own house first.  His appointees at the sewer district are in complete chaos over there. I am just sick and tired of the commissioners thinking they are in charge of the Sheriff.  Time for Dennis and Billy to go.  NOW!!!
 
Here is the Law.
Confiscation of firearms and ammunition, when--exceptions.
571.095. Upon conviction for or attempting to commit a felony in violation of any law perpetrated in whole or in part by the use of a firearm, the court may, in addition to the penalty provided by law for such offense, order the confiscation and disposal or sale or trade to a licensed firearms dealer of firearms and ammunition used in the commission of the crime or found in the possession or under the immediate control of the defendant at the time of his or her arrest. The proceeds of any sale or gains from trade shall be the property of the police department or sheriff's department responsible for the defendant's arrest or the confiscation of the firearms and ammunition. If such firearms or ammunition are not the property of the convicted felon, they shall be returned to their rightful owner if he or she is known and was not a participant in the crime. Any proceeds collected under this section shall be deposited with the municipality or by the county treasurer into the county sheriff's revolving fund established in section 50.535, RSMo.
 

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Re: I am on the Attack
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2007, 11:34:25 PM »
Do you live in the Western district? They are looking for candidates to run.

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Re: I am on the Attack
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2007, 11:37:59 PM »
I have a full time job already.  Besides, I could not abide Bill for even one meeting.  I have thought about it though.  I can't use up all my hard earned leave to go to daytime meetings and not being able to be there for ALL meetings would not be fair to the constituents.  I live off T Highway.

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Re: I am on the Attack
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2007, 03:41:13 AM »
They probably sold mine and I HAVE NEVER BEEN ARRESTED!
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Re: I am on the Attack
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2007, 10:08:47 AM »
I don't think so Mark.  Ask JB.

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Re: I am on the Attack
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2007, 01:17:27 PM »
FYI to ALL and FOR THE RECORD, I DO NOT intend to SELL a single gun. Trade, maybe.
    JB

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Re: I am on the Attack
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2007, 06:43:48 PM »
Trade for what?

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Re: I am on the Attack
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2007, 06:47:15 PM »
The full text of the bill can be found at:  http://www.senate.mo.gov/07info/pdf-bill/tat/SB62.pdf  The portion you are talking about is in Section 571.095.  It clearly states they have to be sold/traded to a licensed dealer and the funds have to be deposited in the Sheriff's Revolving Fund.

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Re: I am on the Attack
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2007, 06:53:36 PM »
Thanks Dave.  I do have an 03 FFL.

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Re: I am on the Attack
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2007, 08:46:35 PM »
It sure didn't take much for you to surrender matrsnot, some "attack"  "Thanks Dave"  I thought you were going to send kisses there for for a minute.
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Re: I am on the Attack
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2007, 09:31:51 PM »
My attack is against the commissioners.  More of a rant.  Any time you feel froggie.....Mark.  Just join in.  Of course I know you have your own axe to grind with the Sheriff. 

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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2007, 09:35:16 PM »
They probably sold mine and I HAVE NEVER BEEN ARRESTED!

This is the axe isn't it?  BTW, maybe you should tell us just why the Sheriff has that weapon now.

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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2007, 02:09:33 AM »
This is the axe isn't it?  BTW, maybe you should tell us just why the Sheriff has that weapon now.

   If you decide to tell Mark you may also post my letter to you.
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Re: I am on the Attack
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2007, 01:18:08 PM »
Hey Mark, sometimes one should be careful of what doors they open. JMHO
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2007, 02:10:38 PM »
I don't have the time or energy to try and type or re-type my side of this ongoing battle between J.B. and myself to retrieve my 38 and CCW that were illegally taken from me. Here or some facts. (1) I have never been arrested for anything. (2) I was trying to get my Doctors attention and I said I was so dizzy I felt like putting a gun to my head. I was forcibly taken to St. Louis Evaluated and released. ( my mistake I paid for it)  (3) There are two bogus restraining orders that were filed against me. One by my little sister who is using it to steal my inheritance with the help of J.B. and the Appellation dumpling gang. Another was filed by a psycho girl that I knew for three weeks at the urging of the PCSD. At no time was there a gun involved. At no time were the Police called. My constitutional right to bare arms has been violated and J.B. is trying to justify it any way he can. THE TRUTH IS THEY HAVE STOLE $500 WORTH OF MY STUFF AND WON'T GIVE IT BACK!  I have nothing to hide and I won't give up matrsnot!
 
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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2007, 02:28:27 PM »
First of all Mark, the admittance to the St. Loo facility does not constitute mental incapacity.  So that part is out.  When people file the exparte' orders, that is a different animal altogether.  You are restricted at least until the restraining order is lifted or has expired from carrying or purchasing a gun.  IANAL, but I bet the Sheriff sent you the letter stating you could appeal this through the court as is allowed by law and I also bet you did not appeal either.  No lawyer is required for this appeal and the process is clearly spelled out in the RSMo. I bet you have or were given some kind of receipt for the gun and ammo too.  As far as the CCW goes, that is the prerogative of the Sheriff and those of us carrying do so at his pleasure.  He can pull or deny a CCW based on certain laws and facts.  THAT is why the approval level is where it is.  Now we wait for the DC v Heller case to hit SCOTUS.

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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2007, 02:59:02 PM »
First of all Mark, the admittance to the St. Loo facility does not constitute mental incapacity.  So that part is out.  When people file the exparte' orders, that is a different animal altogether.  You are restricted at least until the restraining order is lifted or has expired from carrying or purchasing a gun.  IANAL, but I bet the Sheriff sent you the letter stating you could appeal this through the court as is allowed by law and I also bet you did not appeal either.  No lawyer is required for this appeal and the process is clearly spelled out in the RSMo. I bet you have or were given some kind of receipt for the gun and ammo too.  As far as the CCW goes, that is the prerogative of the Sheriff and those of us carrying do so at his pleasure.  He can pull or deny a CCW based on certain laws and facts.  THAT is why the approval level is where it is.  Now we wait for the DC v Heller case to hit SCOTUS.


     Very well said, I can see you were wide awake and alert during the CCW class. Yes Mark has a letter. I will abide by the decision of the Judge. But until then MY decision is NO!

          JB

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Re: I am on the Attack
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2007, 04:09:37 PM »
I believe it states on the ex parte, that if you possess a ccw, it must be surrendered to the sheriff. You have your day in court to prove your case. If you prove your case or the other party fails to show then the exparte is dismissed. if you can't prove your case or you didn't show up, there is no reason to bitch.

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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2007, 06:07:27 PM »
I can't a fair shake in the court system they protect themselves by granting ex parte orders no matter how bogus. I proved my case and the order was still granted. If J.B.s boy had an honest bone in his body he would also admit this.
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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2007, 06:27:32 PM »
If you did not appeal, then how do you know you won't get a fair shake in court?  I am talking of the CCW appeal.  I do understand about restraining orders and many of them ARE bogus.  But there are a few that are not and to err on the side of it not being bogus is the way the court will rule.
 
Don't bother to appeal:  Read RSMo 571.101
 

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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2007, 06:56:18 PM »
you obviously didn't prove your case. also by making that stupid remark to get attention, you brought some of this on yourself. that person had to do what they did. what if that person did nothing and you did put a gun to your head? just because the decision didn't go your way doesn't mean you didn't get a fair hearing.

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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2007, 07:10:30 PM »
I have admitted to my mistake and I paid my do's for that. Once again J.B. will not respond to my questions anywhere but on here.  Do you plan on returning my stuff after the ex-parte is expired?
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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2007, 07:18:51 PM »
Mark, why don't you just drop by JB's office and ask him face to face?  Not on the phone, not on here. 

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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2007, 11:08:09 PM »
I don't have the time or energy to try and type or re-type my side of this ongoing battle between J.B. and myself to retrieve my 38 and CCW that were illegally taken from me. Here or some facts. (1) I have never been arrested for anything. (2) I was trying to get my Doctors attention and I said I was so dizzy I felt like putting a gun to my head. I was forcibly taken to St. Louis Evaluated and released. ( my mistake I paid for it)  (3) There are two bogus restraining orders that were filed against me. One by my little sister who is using it to steal my inheritance with the help of J.B. and the Appellation dumpling gang. Another was filed by a psycho girl that I knew for three weeks at the urging of the PCSD. At no time was there a gun involved. At no time were the Police called. My constitutional right to bare arms has been violated and J.B. is trying to justify it any way he can. THE TRUTH IS THEY HAVE STOLE $500 WORTH OF MY STUFF AND WON'T GIVE IT BACK!  I have nothing to hide and I won't give up matrsnot!
 

If you dont have the time or energy to re-type it on here then, quite saying anything.  you try to say everything that makes you sound perfect.  I dont k now the whole details on your case, dont want to.  But you have been told of legal process to get the itmes back it the courts allow it, they didn't now take your medicaine.  Wait until the orders of protection expire then talk to the sheriff.  And I know that I have personally told you this several months ago. Thank you.
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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2007, 12:46:40 AM »
I have admitted to my mistake and I paid my do's for that. Once again J.B. will not respond to my questions anywhere but on here.  Do you plan on returning my stuff after the ex-parte is expired?


     Mark, do I need to send you ANOTHER COPY OF THE LETTER WERE I GAVE YOU MY ANSWER????  That letter was NOT posted on here. It was sent to your home address. Direct to you and YOU ONLY. That is called a communication. In this case it would probably be more accurate to call it a FAILED communication.

      JB

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« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2007, 01:12:29 AM »
You can send as many letters as you want, or have your staff try to make me look like a bad guy it doesn't change the fact that you were wrong to take and keep $500 worth of my stuff. Again...I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG OR BROKEN ANY LAWS!
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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2007, 04:02:39 AM »
Ed what does it take to run for the commishion?
Do you live in the Western district? They are looking for candidates to run.
If anybody knows MAYNARDS given name please PM me with it.  I will not tell who tells me!

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« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2007, 04:06:41 AM »
You can send as many letters as you want, or have your staff try to make me look like a bad guy it doesn't change the fact that you were wrong to take and keep $500 worth of my stuff. Again...I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG OR BROKEN ANY LAWS!
First I am on here by my own free will and so that everyone knows who I am. I am not trying to make you look bad, I am jsut tired of getting on here and you are repeating the same things over and over. There are several of us that have tried and tried to explain this to you.  Your "bogus" orders of protection keep you from your gun, and your CCW is at the authority of the Sheriff. That is the pont I am trying to make.  I have no intentions of making you look bad. 
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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2007, 04:07:17 AM »
No Mark they do not always grant them, I had one filed on me and it was a bunch of BS, When I went to court it was unfounded and thrown out.  The judge does not always implement them.

I can't a fair shake in the court system they protect themselves by granting ex parte orders no matter how bogus. I proved my case and the order was still granted. If J.B.s boy had an honest bone in his body he would also admit this.
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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2007, 11:34:42 AM »
Ed what does it take to run for the commission?
Reside in the district you're running for. Pay a filing fee ($50.00 I think)  Have all your taxes paid up-to-date. and have a good bookkeeper keep track of your campaign expenditures and income.