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« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2008, 02:06:42 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2008, 02:11:29 PM »
yes when it was first built it was a Howard Johnson.
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« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2008, 03:08:14 PM »
Howard Johnson pulled their name because Norman wouldn't conform to the way the HJ hotels were to be run.
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« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2008, 03:53:39 PM »
Howard Johnson pulled their name because Norman wouldn't conform to the way the HJ hotels were to be run.

He didn't ever follow through with the Village Inn thing either to my rocollection.  That all happened about the same time it closed.  I heard a lot of different things as to why / why not.

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« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2008, 04:22:05 PM »
They had the hotel for years before the name was changed to HOJO.  HOJO lasted a very short time and I also heard that Norman wouldn't conform.  I hear whenever he started scratching his head we was ready to go off.  HOJO had managers that wouldn't get left alone by Fields and they pulled their names.

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« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2008, 07:25:40 PM »
I watched alot of action over there all day sunday and couldnt figure out why they started tearing down the building if the investigation wasnt done yet. They pulled down the entrance and started pushing in the walls in on itself. I watched this for quite a while. It seemed kind of early if the investigation wasn't over with yet. none of that collapsed.....It was pulled down and pushed in with a big piece of construction equipment. I understand that the danger of leaving it up could hurt someone messing around up there. It just seemed like it was a little early if they dont have the investigation completed.
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« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2008, 07:57:41 PM »
If an investigation is even being done.  From what you posted, sounds like one isn't being done or they already did it. If they hadn't done one yet, they sure wouldn't have pushed down walls and the like to cover evidence in the building.  Or, could they have already known what the deal was?  Who knows at this point, but sounds pretty strange if you ask me.

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« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2008, 08:19:46 PM »
This is the huge empty hotel right outside the front gate ? I thought they closed it down/made off limits because the owner pushed a soldier off the top balcony ? I thought this place closed in the mid 90s ?
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« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2008, 08:28:18 PM »
It DID close back in 96 or 97.  But there have been squatters and bums and crack heads hanging out in there.  The owner would do stuff like if a guest ordered out pizza instead of eating at his restraunt, he'd drag them out and toss them in the driveway. 

This is the huge empty hotel right outside the front gate ? I thought they closed it down/made off limits because the owner pushed a soldier off the top balcony ? I thought this place closed in the mid 90s ?
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« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2008, 08:48:45 PM »
If an investigation is even being done.  From what you posted, sounds like one isn't being done or they already did it. If they hadn't done one yet, they sure wouldn't have pushed down walls and the like to cover evidence in the building.  Or, could they have already known what the deal was?  Who knows at this point, but sounds pretty strange if you ask me.
well thats what I figured at first but the paper said today that the investigation is still ongoing.....thats why I felt oddly about what i seen sunday.
I figured sunday that they already knew what happened.
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« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2008, 09:03:12 PM »
Well, we all know that by the time the DG gets published the news is sometimes several days old.  That could be the problem with the article, vice, what you saw on the ground Sunday.  The paper was most likely dated Friday or sooner.  By the way, when was the fire?

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« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2008, 09:15:00 PM »
early sunday morning about 1:30 on
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« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2008, 12:43:17 AM »
Thank you Taz.I dont go that way very much so anything going on that part of town is knew news to me.

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« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2008, 06:45:20 AM »
No problem. I used to know someonig that lived there (Bagley) and that is why I know is was condenmed and everyone had to move out, something to do with the sewer system was not up to speck
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« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2008, 01:48:20 PM »
I don't see why there has to be an investigation anyhow.  If no one died, it's just best that it burned down.  Now scoop it away and clean up that awful mess.  Maybe something nice will go in there and the soldiers families don't have to see that eyesore right before they go through our beautiful new front gate.
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« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2008, 03:20:44 PM »
I wouldn't count on it!  It's been sitting there for years going down hill since it was closed and nothing ever got accomplished.  With luck, we might see something happen if someone is willing to pay the price the owners want.  I don't know what that is, but rest assured it's a bunch of $.  With most of it being burnt down that could lower the clean up cost and someone might do something.  We can only hope.

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« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2008, 07:31:33 PM »
I don't see why there has to be an investigation anyhow.  If no one died, it's just best that it burned down.  Now scoop it away and clean up that awful mess.  Maybe something nice will go in there and the soldiers families don't have to see that eyesore right before they go through our beautiful new front gate.

Insurance?  Fraud?  Not saying this is the case, but if I were an insurance company, or if I had the same insurance company the owners do, I'd want an investigation.
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« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2013, 01:10:46 PM »
Hello all,

This is an old discussion thread.  I believe since 2008 a group brought the property, tore down most of the hotel, then went bust during the housing meltdown.

In any case, I'm researching the area around the front gate for development.  I'm interested in understanding its history and what worked/didn't work.  If anyone was around back in the days of Norman Fields or Wayne Miller, I would love the opportunity to trade some email chats.

Many thanks.

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« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2013, 03:10:47 PM »
Sometimes in real estate, there are just some places that are no good, have no luck or are just plain....bad.  This place (village inn) ever since I can remember it, has always had bad things associated with it.  If I had the money to develop, I would look elsewhere.  Sometimes the history is the lesson.  However, the local community does have many good things to offer and I hope you will continue your efforts.  Good luck!

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« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2013, 01:22:44 PM »
I understand your hesitancy.   Still the location could be successful. 

I know the guys in the previous investment group that were involved, including the lead contractor that bulldozed the hotel back in 2008.  (or partially bulldozed since most of the foundation is still there).  He commented that the mayor, the base commander and the local Congressman were all thrilled the day that building came down.  The base had classified it as off limits for a variety of safety and criminal reasons.   Unfortunately, they tried to start development in 2008, just as the housing bubble burst, and banks ran for bomb shelters (or golf courses depending on your point of view about bankers), not to return for a few years. 

Still, I would like to understand more how the property evolved. 

As I understand it from this thread, Wayne Miller and Normal Fields were partners in a convenience store on old highway 17.   There was basically nothing at the front gate on old highway 17 except a camp ground of some kind run by the Thomas family.  Then a trailer court was created, not sure who created and when, was formed.  Then Normal took over both?   In any case, there was a hotel built (by Norman or Wayne/Norman?) in the 80's (Village Inn).  That would put it around the time of Missouri Avenue build?  Then it went HoJo for a year or two - late 80's?  Then the hotel has a mixed history until the mid 90's when there was a fire - Norman either took over somewhere or Wayne was never involved.   Norman got it placed off limits by the base for improper use of hotel rooms and trailer park.   ;D   Then there was a fire and battle with the city for years.  Finally in 2008 the property got purchased and tore down - partially. 

Can anyone give me an idea if my flow is right or add in the details?

I guess if the MoJo of the HoJo is bad, we could bring in a local shaman to cleanse and bless the place.   

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« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2013, 06:38:25 AM »
I lived there in the late 70's when it was a trailer court~ all they had then was a convience store~

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« Reply #51 on: August 10, 2013, 01:16:36 AM »
I lived there in the late 70's when it was a trailer court~ all they had then was a convience store~

I've been told that Wayne Miller was Norman's partner, then Norman took over the convenience store and trailer park.  I haven't found any records of Wayne Miller.   Did you ever know Wayne?   

Do you know when Norman (or Wayne Miller and Norman) purchased the 60 acres for the trailer park and from who?   

I found some records for a Scott Bench and Angelia Bench from the late 80s.  Not sure who they are.

My main goal right now is just to understand the history of this property before any movement  forward on it. 
I do like it from a location point of view. 

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« Reply #52 on: August 10, 2013, 02:55:00 AM »
I moved into the trailer court in 1970.  At the time, it was owned by Wayne and Gladys Miller.  Wayne ran off to Costa Rica with the woman I bought my trailer from and they never returned to do business in the area.  The store was there when I lived there along with a car wash and gas station.  I worked for Norman Fields in the convenience store for a year or so.  I can tell you that in the early 70's it was a great place to live.  A very large and well maintained trailer court.  After Norman Fields became involved it seemed to go down hill.  I think he tried to do to much.  He built a bunch of apartments in the back of the trailer court, then built the hotel.  Greed can cause a lot of problems.  I think it would be an excellent place for a business or businesses.  If I were you, I would be more worried about the stability of Fort Leonard Wood, than the history of that property.   Are you talking Village Inn the restaurant?  They had a restaurant similar to that here that went out of business.  Might want to check that out too.
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« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2013, 01:53:53 AM »
Keep us posted on your progress.  I hope it all works out for you. 

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« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2013, 11:44:14 PM »
Worked at village inn late 1989, and was structural damage then on the crosswalks on the second floor.  Best i can remember the trailer park and apartments were behind the Village in.  I agree with a previous poster i would be more worried about the stability of Ft Wood the the history of the land
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« Reply #55 on: August 28, 2013, 03:28:44 AM »
The property would be a gold mine. Everybody is right. The stability of the area and.fort Leonard wood are far more important than the history.
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« Reply #56 on: August 29, 2013, 01:56:49 AM »
There is a man that lives in Waynesville who ran the trailer court for Wayne and then for Norman.  I'll send you a PM with  his name.  He could give you a lot of information on the property.
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