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Is Ecumenism Possible?
« on: May 27, 2008, 04:04:43 PM »

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Re: Is Ecumenism Possible?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2008, 04:28:39 PM »
YES.  "The Catholic Church sees itself as the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic church, founded by Christ himself. Its teachings state the proper Church of Christ is identical with the Catholic Church, thus excluding all other Christian religious groups and churches.

Ecumenism takes as it's starting point that Christ founded just one Church, not many churches; hence the Roman-Catholic church has as its ultimate hope and objective - that through prayer, study, and dialogue, the historically separated bodies may come again to be reunited with it".

Before the Second Vatican Council, the Roman Catholic Church defined ecumenism as a relations with other Christian groups in order to persuade these to return to a unity that they themselves had broken.
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Re: Is Ecumenism Possible?
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2008, 06:50:08 PM »
I don't know if I think it is possible as long as humans are involved...We are such a contrary bunch, don't you know. I think almost every religion thinks it is the only "true" church. I think that if a religion is grounded in Christ - recognizing and acknowledging Jesus as God's Son and our Savior, believing that Jesus died on the cross and rose on the third day for our sins and that we have life everlasting in Him - then we are all brothers and sisters in Christ and all want the same things. I don't think God intended for there to be all these different religions and I don't think when we get to those Pearly Gates, that St. Peter is going to ask us which religion we are and then point us to that corner of heaven.
My family attends a Baptist church...I don't agree with every single one of its teachings, but I do agree with the basic concept of Christ as my Savior. I grew up mostly in a Pentecost church and don't agree with a lot of their beliefs, however, I know that they also believe in Christ as Lord and Savior. My husband's family was Catholic and although I don't pretend to know very much at all about the Catholic faith, I do think they also believe in Christ as God's Son. I know my mother-in-law had a great heart for Christ and loved Him with all that she had. I know there are many, many, MANY other religions out there, of which I know very little about. But I do think most Christian religions have Jesus Christ at their center.
Good grief, I've certainly rambled on enough...well, anyway, just my opinion.

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Re: Is Ecumenism Possible?
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2008, 09:54:07 PM »
No.

Self awareness and individual thought will ALWAYS make ANY form of religion as diverse as the branches of a VERY OLD tree.

To unify them all as ONE would be impossible.

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Re: Is Ecumenism Possible?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 03:03:52 AM »
nope, too many doctrinal differences

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Re: Is Ecumenism Possible?
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2008, 02:43:51 PM »
What if the Christian branches focused on Christ as a point of unification, like Coyote and Zetter mentioned? What if, "Christ" was put back into "Christian" and minor differences allowed to fade away?


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Re: Is Ecumenism Possible?
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 03:21:59 PM »
Wouldn't that be heaven?

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Re: Is Ecumenism Possible?
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 03:24:50 PM »
What if the Christian branches focused on Christ as a point of unification, like Coyote and Zetter mentioned? What if, "Christ" was put back into "Christian" and minor differences allowed to fade away?



Try to get two people of the same denomination to agree on their own faith.

Now imagine dozens of different denominations agreeing on anything.

Heck, there are snake handlers, people who speak in tongues, people who believe in going to church 7 days a week, people who believe in faith healing over medicine, and on and on.

It is an impossible dream.  Besides, once united, there would be little hope of holding onto that unity.  There will always be people who view things differently and would splinter off.  Its human nature.
"There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God almighty Himself hates with you, too. Where's evil? It's that large part of every man that wants to hate without limit, that wants to hate with God on its side." - Kurt Vonnegut

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Re: Is Ecumenism Possible?
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2008, 07:34:41 PM »
I am and will always be a Southern Baptist.  That's the denomination I belong to.  My experience is that if you get two of us together you will get three opinions.

So I must say there's not much chance of us all coming together.  If we did pretty soon we'd be calling names and pointing out what we hate about each other.  So, I say the probability is slim to none.

However in 100 years it won't matter much what we think, cause we'll all be gone and somebody new will start the argument all over again.

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Re: Is Ecumenism Possible?
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2008, 07:45:08 PM »
 The rounding up of heritics during the inquistion couldn't get everyone to agree. Besides a good arquement could be made for the Roman-Catholic church causing the down fall of Rome. Do you want them in control again?

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Re: Is Ecumenism Possible?
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2008, 08:16:16 PM »
Want who in charge again, the Romans?
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Re: Is Ecumenism Possible?
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2008, 09:27:16 PM »
The Church. ;)


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Re: Is Ecumenism Possible?
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2008, 06:25:23 PM »
The Church. ;)


That is exactly the reason it will NEVER happen ........
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Re: Is Ecumenism Possible?
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2008, 08:23:18 AM »
dont hold your breath on it.
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